Europe. Will it split in the future?

[Denn Forever]

I ask this as there seems to a potential fault line there.  Right wing elements in Italy. Hungary, Poland and Sweden has already left the Euro.  A European army being mooted can't see Ireland being in favour (well I'd vote no).

So is Europe falling apart?

[manfromdelmonte]

When were Sweden and Poland using the Euro?

[Rossfan]

They never used the €.

[BennyCake]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

[armaghniac]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

The likes of the EU is always bureaucratic and so has limitations. However 90% of the Irish people realise that it is desirable to be in it, most of the rest are just grumpy feckers.

[Rossfan]

If tr**p in the White House doesn't like the EU then it's obviously a good thing.
Add in Farage, Johnson, DUPUDA .....
Nothing Yankee big business would like better than a bickering Europe of small Countries that they could pick off one by one and turn them into Vassal States like Central America.

[Hardy]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/

[seafoid]

The Eurozone will probably collapse. It is not possible to guarantee the wholeness of every Euro of  debt in a system of unlimited debt. The Germans were insane to adopt neoliberalism after the Nazi experience

[BennyCake]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/

Well of course people are going to think it's great being in the eu since the brexit vote, and the scaremongering that's happened since. If people are told something is bad, the vast majority are going to believe it, even if it's complete bollix.

[Hardy]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/

Well of course people are going to think it's great being in the eu since the brexit vote, and the scaremongering that's happened since. If people are told something is bad, the vast majority are going to believe it, even if it's complete bollix.

So, having experienced the last two-and-a-half years, your considered conclusion is that the 92% of Irish people who want to remain in the EU are wrong and we should embark on an exit programme?

[omaghjoe]

Of course it will......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M90C7FA4FYU

[Rossfan]

That 8% consisted of John Waters, a bunch of extreme right wing neo Nazis one group of whom were set up by Farage and the rest are half baked eejits or total West Brits who want to get closer to their "mainland".

[RadioGAAGAA]

Well of course people are going to think it's great being in the eu since the brexit vote, and the scaremongering that's happened since. If people are told something is bad, the vast majority are going to believe it, even if it's complete bollix.

See after Brexit happens - and what the intellectually feeble dismiss as "Project Fear" morphs into "Project Reality" - then I'd expect those numbers (wanting to remain in the EU) to climb.

[Owenmoresider]

A country's government will say they are so happy being in the EU, but the people think differently. The Lisbon Treaty being the perfect example.

For all this EU arselicking from Dublin, a lot of ordinary  Irish people don't like or trust the EU.

Fake news.
https://www.europeanmovement.ie/programmes/ireland-and-the-eu-poll/

Vested interest lobby group commissions poll that gives it the result to justify its agenda shocker.

[trailer]

Interesting I think Hungary should be expelled. Complex problem but given their last elections weren't free and fair, I'd advocate that the EU should suspend their membership at the very least.