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#151
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 13, 2021, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 13, 2021, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 13, 2021, 06:49:08 AM
Angelo has a very similar tone to Dublin's favorite Journalist Ewan McKenna, including personal insults.

Good on the lads getting cushy numbers, Jesus if only i could, they should enjoy it, best years of their lives, plenty of time after their careers are finished.

GAABoard Dublin fairness rule no 136: All Dublin players must work in a coal mine, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day. Underage development squads not excluded.
For my two cents worth, I have no problem with players, any players, making a few bob on the side. What they do off the field is their business. I have lots of reservations about Dublin football in general but what the players do in their private lives is not one of them.

Fair play Lar, most dont, but their is always a few.
#152
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 13, 2021, 06:49:08 AM
Angelo has a very similar tone to Dublin's favorite Journalist Ewan McKenna, including personal insults.

Good on the lads getting cushy numbers, Jesus if only i could, they should enjoy it, best years of their lives, plenty of time after their careers are finished.

GAABoard Dublin fairness rule no 136: All Dublin players must work in a coal mine, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day. Underage development squads not excluded.

#153
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 05, 2021, 07:26:25 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 04, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 04, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 04, 2021, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 04, 2021, 10:26:42 AM
Still my favorite thread on here.. makes it all that sweeter.
Mine too because I am fascinated by the pointlessness of it all.
Otherwise perfectly sensible posters can spend hours bickering over irrelevancies while the real crux of the matter is left largely unnoticed.
Dublin, is by a great distance, the best team in the land. I think that has to be acknowledged by all sides of the dispute.
How it got there is not that important but the fact that no other team is on the same level certainly is. IT seems the great majority of Dublin people are bored with Stephen Cluxton's annual trip up the steps and deliver his usual cúpla focail. AFAIK, not one extra banner waving in the wind from Balbriggan to Carrickmines.
Eoin Murchan's visit to Temple Street hospital was trhe only event that got decent coverage in the national media.
Do you seriously think that the whole exercise in futility gained Dublin one extra fan?
You lads who imagine that the good times are here to stay remind me of George Washington.
The storey goes tat young George was told to saw off an overhanging branch of a tree.
The day was hot and George was lazy so he got the bright idea to sit on the branch while cutting it.
Unfortunately for him, he sat on the outer side of the cut and wound up in the Potomac river.
I think there a moral there for you Dublin diehards. You can smirk away but you don't see what's coming down the line..

You could have just said you've no evidence to back your dublin are professional claims.

Eoin Murchan visiting sick kids was nothing to do with working on Dublin's PR image or trying to garner extra fans. It was simply about trying to brighten the day for sick kids and their families and maybe let them forget about their worries for a short time. Dublin have been doing this for years under Jim Gavin. You really have a sick and twisted mind
Hold on! Where did I say that? ;D ;D
I also never implied that Eoin Murchan was doing anything other than visiting sick kids in hospital. It was the only newsworthy item connected with Dublin's latest win that was carried by the national media. (AFAIK)
I never denied that Dublin under Jim Gavin did the same thing or implied in anyway that he did not.
I was naïve enough to think that anyone with an IQ no lower than his backside would have misread what I had to say.
Then you came along...

Now now, fair point, i misread it, but others would say it, or when Cluxton laid the wreath, good PR, 6 or 7 other teams laid the wreath too, not good PR. You see what i am getting at..
#154
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 04, 2021, 04:24:05 PM
Yeah fair point about Lar, not the worst, but Covid year don't forget, not as much going on after and just before Christmas too.

Not bothered by media coverage or no media coverage.

#155
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 04, 2021, 03:45:02 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 04, 2021, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 04, 2021, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on January 04, 2021, 10:26:42 AM
Still my favorite thread on here.. makes it all that sweeter.
Mine too because I am fascinated by the pointlessness of it all.
Otherwise perfectly sensible posters can spend hours bickering over irrelevancies while the real crux of the matter is left largely unnoticed.
Dublin, is by a great distance, the best team in the land. I think that has to be acknowledged by all sides of the dispute.
How it got there is not that important but the fact that no other team is on the same level certainly is. IT seems the great majority of Dublin people are bored with Stephen Cluxton's annual trip up the steps and deliver his usual cúpla focail. AFAIK, not one extra banner waving in the wind from Balbriggan to Carrickmines.
Eoin Murchan's visit to Temple Street hospital was trhe only event that got decent coverage in the national media.
Do you seriously think that the whole exercise in futility gained Dublin one extra fan?
You lads who imagine that the good times are here to stay remind me of George Washington.
The storey goes tat young George was told to saw off an overhanging branch of a tree.
The day was hot and George was lazy so he got the bright idea to sit on the branch while cutting it.
Unfortunately for him, he sat on the outer side of the cut and wound up in the Potomac river.
I think there a moral there for you Dublin diehards. You can smirk away but you don't see what's coming down the line..

You could have just said you've no evidence to back your dublin are professional claims.

Eoin Murchan visiting sick kids was nothing to do with working on Dublin's PR image or trying to garner extra fans. It was simply about trying to brighten the day for sick kids and their families and maybe let them forget about their worries for a short time. Dublin have been doing this for years under Jim Gavin. You really have a sick and twisted mind

Its quite frightening what people think of these players, i wonder was the same said about Cork lady footballers after their 6th in a row visiting the children's hospital. That's just good PR  was it...  there are underlying issues out there with these people that must not only be related to GAA, but to Dublin people in general.

Statements like these is why there will be no reconciliation.
#156
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 04, 2021, 03:24:28 PM
2 replies above from Mayo gentlemen  :-\ . I understand it must be hard for you and for the country as even before 2011, there was always and always will be an underlying loathing of all things Dublin, especially GAA, and that's fine, its good rivalry, city slicker Jackeens Vrs spud walloping culchies etc. I understand it hurts people that Dublin win and with success comes great responsibility . .

Its not for Dublin fans to say anything or feel sorry for you,  like so many of you point out, i just want the Dublin fans to admit this, or that. . .  that is never going to happen, never, so the tune needs to change on that front gents, we are happy at the top of the pile and if it goes 10/11 in a row so be it. Then there is the belittlement of achievements and personal abuse of players etc etc that i wont go into.

There is also a lot of hypocrisy out there too, lads supporting Celtic going 9 in a row or whatever it is, not a word about poor St Mirren or Hearts and gap. Or Crossmaglen football men saying the Dubs winning is bad for the game.

I think the bigger problem here is, that only 5 counties have won it since 2003, when some say football began and lets be honest here, Cork won a handy fluky one in 2010. within that time, Mayo played in 3 finals that were not against the Dubs...

Only time will tell on Dublin, i will only worry when it reaches 15 in a row, but i know it wont, it could go 7 or 8 no problem, but youll just have to deal with that.
#157
GAA Discussion / Re: Cork's New Sponsorship
January 04, 2021, 10:27:47 AM
Great deal for Cork. Fair play to them.
#158
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 04, 2021, 10:26:42 AM
Still my favorite thread on here.. makes it all that sweeter.
#159
GAA Discussion / Re: 2021 Tailteann Cup
December 22, 2020, 02:56:39 PM
Or day before the All Ireland. Televised, big campaign to get fans in or double header with McDonagh cup. Fanfare, marketing etc etc

Really hope it take off, its the future. All Sports have tiers, all counties have tiers, even Inter-County Hurling has tiers
#160
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 22, 2020, 02:13:19 PM
Its another year of going round in circles, nothing has changed and there wasn't even a serious debate on the Sunday game so it will be another few years before its brought up again on TV.

The GAA don't like bad publicity, sponsors and broadcaster don't like it either so a social media campaign boycotting Dublin games on the TV would be a start.

:) almost 1 Million viewers on Saturday.
#161
Quote from: seafoid on December 22, 2020, 11:27:46 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 22, 2020, 10:54:09 AM
I recall the u21 semi finals 2014.
While Dublin were playing Cavan we had John Nolan making notes in a jotter.
When we were playing Cork there were a scatter of Dublin backroom  lads banging stuff non stop into lap tops.
Pro sports make a point of ensuring that competition is the focus. The GAA doesn't. Dublin has a bigger pick, more money, more advanced training facilities, better coaching, better stats.
It's not sport when one team is so far ahead.

Dublin has a bigger pick - Yes - always had, always will
More money - If you talking Senior Football team, spend in and around the same as the top 3/4 teams.
More advanced training facilities - Not so sure about that, If your talking Dublin Senior footballers, they use Innisfails GAA club for a large part of their training. Iv played there, the pitch is lobsided, the Facilities not great, small changing rooms etc. Id say its used to keep them grounded more so than everything else.
Better Coaching - Not so sure about that either, structures yes, define, is Jayo a better forward coach than say Donaghy will be with Armagh.
Better stats - Again, unproven, modernized.
Makeshift Gym in Parnell Park.

There are a few counties that have better set ups than the Dubs.
#162
Id say there is some nice equipment used here - http://tyronegaacentre.com/facilities/  nice play to play and train. Dubs have to do with a lobsided pitch in Kinsealy. . . :)

Kerry have a video analysis too, not sure what they used match days though - https://www.independent.ie/regionals/kerryman/news/inside-the-future-of-our-gaa-36036305.html 

And you buy some software off the shelf - https://www.performasports.com/pricing-video-analysis-software

But i suppose its what you do about the information you are given is another story.


#163
Again, i dont know what other teams do, but surely to god the days of pen and paper at inter county are gone now, and i understand some stadia don't have the facilities to accomadate.

I would expect some of those center of excellences have good video analysis rooms with good equipment.
#164
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 22, 2020, 10:07:30 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on December 22, 2020, 09:55:09 AM
Hard Luck Mayo.

Well done the Dubs, hopefully a couple more to add over the next few years. Straight into it again it looks like for next year.

Of the things Dublin do best is analysis, stats etc and it is used heavily at half time, they are not afraid to make the changes either to counteract it. I remember reading before players want it half time also, information and more.

This shows it, certain things identified and then nullified.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2020/12/21/news/dubs-zone-in-on-mayo-trio-to-turn-the-tide-2166226/

Its safe to assume having such a backroom team has its advantages and this is one of them. Would the Mayo players have the access to a similar level of information, I'd be very sceptical.

Introducing Brian Howard who'd be in my best 15 in the country on at half time is a luxury everyone else has to dream about not to mention Paul Mannion who stayed on the bench for even longer.

I knew the your first line would be the first response to this post :) Don't know if Mayo do or dont but i have noticed an increase in the number of stats members of the team over the last few years.

Of course Howard changed the game, Mannion too, but they would would have looked at these things at half time, most likely digitally and realtime and discussed how to deal with it. Its another layer to the level required.
#165
Hard Luck Mayo.

Well done the Dubs, hopefully a couple more to add over the next few years. Straight into it again it looks like for next year.

Of the things Dublin do best is analysis, stats etc and it is used heavily at half time, they are not afraid to make the changes either to counteract it. I remember reading before players want it half time also, information and more.

This shows it, certain things identified and then nullified.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2020/12/21/news/dubs-zone-in-on-mayo-trio-to-turn-the-tide-2166226/