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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 22, 2018, 09:13:23 AM »
http://www.the42.ie/dublin-croke-park-away-1765053-Nov2014/

No vote breakdown

http://www.the42.ie/dublin-croke-park-2087719-May2015/

Leinster GAA chiefs have an agreement with Croke Park on the use of the stadium that means that at least four of the province’s senior championship games must be played there every year.

Dublin boss Jim Gavin admits he was unaware of the agreement.

It’s an interesting observation, I wasn’t aware of that but from the Dublin football team’s perspective, we’ll play and we’ve always played where we’re told to play.

“We’ve had seven games on the road this year, all very enjoyable. We started off in Portarlington, Navan, Newbridge, Cork city, Killarney, Castlebar, Clones…they’re great times, you get to spend a lot of time with the players, more so than just turning up and going to a game in Croke Park.

“So there’s a lot of advantages to playing away but we’ll just play where we’re told to play by the Leinster Council or otherwise.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/leinster-ceo-points-to-cost-of-moving-dublin-games-from-croke-park-1.2399333

when only two of the 12 Leinster counties backed the proposal to bring Dublin to a provincial venue.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 22, 2018, 09:07:26 AM »
Also see above about delegate votes (11-1), that's why lobbying is required.

11-1. Who was the 1, surely it was Dublin? All their fair and sportsmanlike fans want out of Croke Park don't they? No it wasn't Dublin but Laois! Then when it's decided that the Dubs need a roadtrip what happens? They draw Laois. Can't be giving them a home game though, they voted against the Dubs. So it's moved to Kilkenny. The year after the Dubs draw Carlow, can't play there so they move it to be played in Laois. The place they wouldn't let the game go ahead the year before. Now it's Wicklow that get through but again it's in Laois.
This means that Dublin still haven't played a championship game away from home since 2006. 12 years. So they're playing a game away from home later in the year. But only 1! Their other 2 games are at home. Just think about it for a secend, every single championship game at home for 12 years. That is crazy. What's makes it worse is that this isn't even the biggest scandal involving Dublin.

I agree, Dublin should play all games outside of Croker until Leinster final, and at least one away game in Super 8s. All Dublin fans would agree with you. The Dublin players would agree with you, unfortunately Leinster council and Croke Park do not.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 21, 2018, 02:13:40 PM »
The hard truth is they are not going to change it unless sufficient pressure is applied. That's what I am trying to say. Media outcry doesn't seem to be enough for them.

Also see above about delegate votes (11-1), that's why lobbying is required.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 21, 2018, 12:52:37 PM »
I am in also in favour of more equal wealth distribution. How to fix this issue is at your individual county board levels which you gain contact though your club pros. Leinster council and Croke park need to be lobbied.

How did Antrim get their recent funding plan approved?

Rather flippant.

We should be lobbying our Club Pro's to ask the Leinster Council not to show preferential treatment to Dublin?

I do despair sometimes.

How would you go about it if its not going to change automatically?

lobby club Pro's or post on GAA forum.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 21, 2018, 12:11:48 PM »
I am in also in favour of more equal wealth distribution. How to fix this issue is at your individual county board levels which you gain contact though your club pros. Leinster council and Croke park need to be lobbied.

How did Antrim get their recent funding plan approved?




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Well done Monaghan, a credit to the GAA and sport in general. Limited pool of players, 25 living and working in Dublin. Fantastic bunch. Generally not a peep out of them giving out like so many other counties, keep to themselves and get the job done.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 21, 2018, 08:43:55 AM »
Going after the club game now are we, you will find that the 3 or 4 big south side clubs would have a lot of money, there are many many many struggling clubs in Dublin that don't have facilities or finances,  For example were the Dubs train sometimes in Innis fails in Kinsealy, the facilities are very basic.

I have seen some wonderful club house and facilities around the country that better clubs in Dublin.

What Judes did was get a room an renovate it to put in a few chairs and a tv and make it look nice. I wouldn't imagine it to be at a huge cost.

nitpicking
FFS, it's like a small scale college lecture theatre, hardly just "a few chairs".

Disagree. Perhaps they got in house carpenters, donations etc. Its not a big deal and people making it out to be because they are in Dublin. The wingers from the country.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 21, 2018, 08:30:22 AM »
Going after the club game now are we, you will find that the 3 or 4 big south side clubs would have a lot of money, there are many many many struggling clubs in Dublin that don't have facilities or finances,  For example were the Dubs train sometimes in Innis fails in Kinsealy, the facilities are very basic.

I have seen some wonderful club house and facilities around the country that better clubs in Dublin.

What Judes did was get a room an renovate it to put in a few chairs and a tv and make it look nice. I wouldn't imagine it to be at a huge cost.

nitpicking




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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 18, 2018, 02:01:41 PM »
Wo lads, chill out, I just presented a fact, it was voted down 11-1. I am not sure of the wording of the vote.

For info, I am in favour of playing more games outside Croker and giving other counties home advantages. I am also in favour of fairer wealth distribution.

What I am not in favour of is the Dublin bashing at every turn on various different topics and singling out individuals. 


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 18, 2018, 12:00:38 PM »
I think one vote a couple of years ago was to take Dublin out of Croker park, 11 to 1 No.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 18, 2018, 11:21:51 AM »

Agree with Ewan, game should be played at Aughrim

It's not like Ewan has come up with this! You're agreeing with everyone. Apart from the Leinster Council.

When you think that Wicklow has hardly won a game in the last 20 years, that they still have created this image that Aughrim is a fortress, it's quite amazing! And a shame that the Dubs haven't been sent there.

Of course if it had been put in Aughrim, the Dublin County Board would have had to come out and request it be moved to a bigger ground to ensure better availability for their fans, and I'm sure they would have put up a better effort than Wicklow County Board has done in trying to move it to Aughrim (John Evans has certainly done his best in the couple of interviews I've heard with him, although there's has been the "lost cause" element to his complaint, so I don't think he got much help from Wicklow CB).

And Dublin could have been told, "Yeah, we hear yah, it's not ideal, but them's the breaks, so suck it up".

But the Leinster Council didn't go there.

A problem (I guess) is the other 11 Leinster counties are all trying to do what's best for themselves, increase their own coffers, rather than helping each other.

I will travel to watch the Dubs anywhere but if I was to miss out on a ticket so Wicklow could host a home game so be it. For me its more about Wicklow than the Dubs.

It was great to be in Parnell park last week for the hurling, It really felt like a home game, our turf, good atmosphere, close to the pitch, tight. If only it could be extended to 15K somehow. Rather play there than a half empty Croker or half empty Nolan park or Portlaoise


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: May 18, 2018, 09:49:51 AM »
For once I agree with Ewan, the match should be Aughrim.

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Conroy - 7 stitches and severe concussion - True?

10 year ban if true.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Dubs in Aughrim
« on: May 14, 2018, 08:12:01 AM »
There’s only a few Leinster grounds now deemed big enough for Dublin  season-ticket holders band-wagonners. As far as I know they have to get a stand ticket. Aughrim won’t make the cut.

Fixed that for you.

Id say the opposite, ticket holders to proper fans, the bandwagoners show up from the Leinster final onwards.

A real pity not in Aughrim, Wicklow deserve their home game.


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O Connor elbow, wow... Once again Mayo's violent tendencies and ill discipline let them down and again let their large support and great fans down.

A long ban and consider certain players position on the panel.

10 games to the all Ireland probably a step too far this year.


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