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Title: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 01, 2018, 03:37:11 PM
Starting a standalone thread for this game, too much chat from the riff raff in the main D1 thread  ;)

I believe the weather has continued to be poor down at home so I'd say the pitch won't be in great shape for this (from looking at youtube videos, it was in muck for the FBD games - two in three days).

Some of the younger Kerry players (Sean O'Se & Clifford at any rate) played Sigerson during the week and are due to play again next week so it'll be interesting to see if they play the full game. Same with some of our lads - DOC and Loftus played midweek anyway, not sure who else. Would lilke to get gametime for Loftus but no point in flogging him either, better to wait until later in the league. DOC doesn't need to play imo.

Mayo will likely play a similar team to last week, Boyler is injured so will probably drop out but Parsons may be back (based on info from WJs blog).

Bookies have Mayo as ~1 point favourites @ 4/6

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Geoff Tipps on February 01, 2018, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 01, 2018, 03:37:11 PM
Starting a standalone thread for this game, too much chat from the riff raff in the main D1 thread  ;)

I believe the weather has continued to be poor down at home so I'd say the pitch won't be in great shape for this (from looking at youtube videos, it was in muck for the FBD games - two in three days).

Some of the younger Kerry players (Sean O'Se & Clifford at any rate) played Sigerson during the week and are due to play again next week so it'll be interesting to see if they play the full game. Same with some of our lads - DOC and Loftus played midweek anyway, not sure who else. Would lilke to get gametime for Loftus but no point in flogging him either, better to wait until later in the league. DOC doesn't need to play imo.

Mayo will likely play a similar team to last week, Boyler is injured so will probably drop out but Parsons may be back (based on info from WJs blog).

Bookies have Mayo as ~1 point favourites @ 4/6

Akram and Durcan played for DCU yesterday too.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: twohands!!! on February 01, 2018, 04:09:10 PM
Based on the likely teams, I'd imagine it has to be advantage Mayo.

Kerry's defence was fairly woeful, especially in terms of the goals they gave away against 14 Donegal men.




Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 01, 2018, 04:51:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 01, 2018, 04:09:10 PM
Based on the likely teams, I'd imagine it has to be advantage Mayo.

Kerry's defence was fairly woeful, especially in terms of the goals they gave away against 14 Donegal men.

Fairly woeful alright and due to injuries I don't think they can bring much in to improve things. Mayo will probably have their first choice forward line available for this game. This match should be straightforward home win a big surprise if it isn't.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2018, 05:18:07 PM
Kerry will be all out to 'right the wrongs' of last August. As I said in the Division 1 thread I don't know how it will go. Mayo's home form is awful in the league.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 01, 2018, 05:54:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2018, 05:18:07 PM
Kerry will be all out to 'right the wrongs' of last August. As I said in the Division 1 thread I don't know how it will go. Mayo's home form is awful in the league.

Will be the summer if and when they meet that Kerry will be all out to do that. Teams that Mayo dropped home points against in recent years had stronger and more experienced starting 15s than Kerry will have on Saturday.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 01, 2018, 06:21:32 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on February 01, 2018, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 01, 2018, 03:37:11 PM
Starting a standalone thread for this game, too much chat from the riff raff in the main D1 thread  ;)

I believe the weather has continued to be poor down at home so I'd say the pitch won't be in great shape for this (from looking at youtube videos, it was in muck for the FBD games - two in three days).

Some of the younger Kerry players (Sean O'Se & Clifford at any rate) played Sigerson during the week and are due to play again next week so it'll be interesting to see if they play the full game. Same with some of our lads - DOC and Loftus played midweek anyway, not sure who else. Would lilke to get gametime for Loftus but no point in flogging him either, better to wait until later in the league. DOC doesn't need to play imo.

Mayo will likely play a similar team to last week, Boyler is injured so will probably drop out but Parsons may be back (based on info from WJs blog).

Bookies have Mayo as ~1 point favourites @ 4/6

Akram and Durcan played for DCU yesterday too.

Akram unlikely to start anyway but Durcan should definitely be rested, plenty of half backs looking for game time
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
9. Shane Nally - Garrymore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy(Captain)
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Neil Douglas - Castlebar Mitchels
14. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
1.
Shane Murphy
Dr. Crokes
2.
Brian Ó Beaglaoich
An Ghaeltacht
3.
Jason Foley
Ballydonoghue
4.
Shane Enright
Tarbert
5.
Paul Murphy
Rathmore
6.
Gavin Crowley
Templenoe
7.
Ronan Shanahan
Austin Stacks
8.
Jack Barry
Na Gaeil
9.
Barry O'Sullivan
Dingle
10.
Micheál Burns
Dr. Crokes
11.
Seán O'Shea
Kenmare
12.
Stephen O'Brien
Kenmare
13.
David Clifford
Fossa
14.
Paul Geaney
Dingle
15.
Barry John Keane
Kerins O'Rahillys


Fir Ionaid:

16.
Brian Kelly
Killarney Legion
17.
Brendan O'Sullivan
Valentia
18.
Cormac Coffey
Kerins O'Rahillys
19.
Jack Savage
Kerins O'Rahillys
20.
Dáithí Casey
Dr. Crokes
21.
Matthew Flaherty
Dingle
22.
Killian Spillane
Templenoe
23.
Brian Ó Seanacháin
Ballydonoghue
24.
Greg Horan
Austin Stacks
25.
Andrew Barry
Na Gaeil
26.
Éanna Ó Conchúir
An Ghaeltacht
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 02, 2018, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
9. Shane Nally - Garrymore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy(Captain)
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Neil Douglas - Castlebar Mitchels
14. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Very interesting...
I'd say that is close to Rochford's strongest side at the moment. Nally will be getting his chance to show hi smother didn't rear a jibber. He has the potential to force himself into the reckoning later on in the year. He will find iit hard going to displace either Tom or Seamie when they both recover full fitness but he won't get a better oportunity to show what he's got than this game. Eoin O'Donoghue is doing just that right now. He was outstanding last Sunday. If he can do the same again, he's a real prospect.
Neil Douglas is another who seems promising.  There's a lot to play for on Sunday. I hope the weather is a biteen kinder than it was for the last two games. I'm not looking forward to another pisssy. windy evening but the end result shoud make the trip west worthwhile.  Anyway, there will be no wind and rain in Mick Byrne's afterwards!
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2018, 11:09:33 PM
I still reckon there might be one or two changes, as it's what Rochford usually does. Good team names however, I think we have a good chance of winning.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 02, 2018, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 02, 2018, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 08:59:30 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Colm Boyle - Davitts
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Jason Gibbons - Ballintubber
9. Shane Nally - Garrymore
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy(Captain)
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Neil Douglas - Castlebar Mitchels
14. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
15. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
Very interesting...
I'd say that is close to Rochford's strongest side at the moment. Nally will be getting his chance to show hi smother didn't rear a jibber. He has the potential to force himself into the reckoning later on in the year. He will find iit hard going to displace either Tom or Seamie when they both recover full fitness but he won't get a better oportunity to show what he's got than this game. Eoin O'Donoghue is doing just that right now. He was outstanding last Sunday. If he can do the same again, he's a real prospect.
Neil Douglas is another who seems promising.  There's a lot to play for on Sunday. I hope the weather is a biteen kinder than it was for the last two games. I'm not looking forward to another pisssy. windy evening but the end result shoud make the trip west worthwhile.  Anyway, there will be no wind and rain in Mick Byrne's afterwards!

Good to see you having a prospect coming through in the full back line, for all the talk of Mayo being short one top forward to make the breakthrough it is the other end of the pitch where you have usually been usually carrying a liability the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 03, 2018, 12:29:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2018, 11:09:33 PM
I still reckon there might be one or two changes, as it's what Rochford usually does. Good team names however, I think we have a good chance of winning.

Yeah, you wouldn't be surprised to see Boyle replaced anyway and maybe one other change.

There seems to be a reasonable level of confidence that we'll win, I wonder what it would be like if Gough had given Monaghan that late free last week.....funny how small calls can completely change the mood around a team
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I reckon it's shit or bust for Coen to nail down the number 6 position. Sean O'Shea had a good game last week by all accounts and may cause trouble again this time. If Boyle doesn't Start will the replacement be as good? Getting worried now thinking about it.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: joemamas on February 03, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I reckon it's shit or bust for Coen to nail down the number 6 position. Sean O'Shea had a good game last week by all accounts and may cause trouble again this time. If Boyle doesn't Start will the replacement be as good? Getting worried now thinking about it.

Not questioning his effort or commitment, but just feel that Coen does not has what it takes to be an intercounty footballer for a top team.
Last year, it seemed that Rochford had pre-determined that he would come on as a sub no matter what the situation.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Christmas Lights on February 03, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
Any links?
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
But of an auld niggle in the game.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2018, 07:28:31 PM
But of an auld niggle in the game.

Ah, the Kerry boys have been told of the shame it is to lose to Mayo for the last 5 months and are getting it outta their system!
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Well, Kerry really up for it tonight. Lived on the edge cynical wise, rode their luck with tackles and nabbed the Points. Well worth their win all the same. Mayo should have brought Cillian on earlier to referee the game. Up until his introduction The Referee was unsure what to do, but Cillian coached him when entered the Frey! Anyway, a lot of disgruntled Mayo fans leaving. It's only February for fecks sake. Pity Douglas was taken of the Pitch when there was quite a few free on offer entering the last quarter - Most of which were missed!

More later.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: dublin7 on February 03, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Well, Kerry really up for it tonight. Lived on the edge cynical wise, rode their luck with tackles and nabbed the Points. Well worth their win all the same. Mayo should have brought Cillian on earlier to referee the game. Up until his introduction The Referee was unsure what to do, but Cillian coached him when entered the Frey! Anyway, a lot of disgruntled Mayo fans leaving. It's only February for fecks sake. Pity Douglas was taken of the Pitch when there was quite a few free on offer entering the last quarter - Most of which were missed!

More later.
Watching on the tv I thought that ref rode Kerry and gave them nothing. If Mayo are looking for the missing "x Factor" to win an All Ireland thet should plead with Croke Park to have him as the ref for all there games going forward.

With 15 min left Mayo were 3 points down and playing against 13 men. They lost by 3 points.

Mayo had no leadership on the field (especially in the forwards) and looked clueless how to use the 2 extra men!!!

The ease with how the Kerry forwards were able to kick points compared to their Mayo counterparts was exactly why they have never won an All Ireland.

Big win for Kerry tonight.  Their youngsters have made an immediate impression and they look like they could be dangerous come the summer
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 03, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Well, Kerry really up for it tonight. Lived on the edge cynical wise, rode their luck with tackles and nabbed the Points. Well worth their win all the same. Mayo should have brought Cillian on earlier to referee the game. Up until his introduction The Referee was unsure what to do, but Cillian coached him when entered the Frey! Anyway, a lot of disgruntled Mayo fans leaving. It's only February for fecks sake. Pity Douglas was taken of the Pitch when there was quite a few free on offer entering the last quarter - Most of which were missed!

More later.
Watching on the tv I thought that ref rode Kerry and gave them nothing. If Mayo are looking for the missing "x Factor" to win an All Ireland thet should plead with Croke Park to have him as the ref for all there games going forward.

With 15 min left Mayo were 3 points down and playing against 13 men. They lost by 3 points.

Mayo had no leadership on the field (especially in the forwards) and looked clueless how to use the 2 extra men!!!

The ease with how the Kerry forwards were able to kick points compared to their Mayo counterparts was exactly why they have never won an All Ireland.

Big win for Kerry tonight.  Their youngsters have made an immediate impression and they look like they could be dangerous come the summer

Can't disagree with most of that, Bar the referee analysis. The off the Ball stuff (which is missed by the Telly) by Kerry was top notch cynical. To clever for a referee to deal with. But Mayo should be streetwise (to use a Kerry label) to be able to handle such a situation. Anyway Kerry have their revenge (?) and they are welcome to it .
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 10:40:17 PM
Terribly disheartening loss. I hope the clamour for Douglas to start is over after that. Too light, pushed around easily and second to the ball all the time. I did ask earlier if the r3placrment for Boyle would be good enough. The shuffling the deck at the back suggested not and Barry Moran (who started in midfield for Nally to go to centre back) was poor. Gibbons seemed to offer nothing either. As dublin7 said the forwards were clueless. A lot of terrible ball kicked straight to Kerry men who were able to show us how to play the game. Caff was taken to the cleaners. Heard he was injured so maybe that's why he was taken off so early. As Bunker says it's only Feb but Galway up next sure won't be easy. Still can't crack how to beat teams finishing with one or two men sent off is worrying.

I won't start about the ref only he was out of his depth at this level.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: straightred on February 03, 2018, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 03, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 03, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Well, Kerry really up for it tonight. Lived on the edge cynical wise, rode their luck with tackles and nabbed the Points. Well worth their win all the same. Mayo should have brought Cillian on earlier to referee the game. Up until his introduction The Referee was unsure what to do, but Cillian coached him when entered the Frey! Anyway, a lot of disgruntled Mayo fans leaving. It's only February for fecks sake. Pity Douglas was taken of the Pitch when there was quite a few free on offer entering the last quarter - Most of which were missed!

More later.
Watching on the tv I thought that ref rode Kerry and gave them nothing. If Mayo are looking for the missing "x Factor" to win an All Ireland thet should plead with Croke Park to have him as the ref for all there games going forward.

With 15 min left Mayo were 3 points down and playing against 13 men. They lost by 3 points.

Mayo had no leadership on the field (especially in the forwards) and looked clueless how to use the 2 extra men!!!

The ease with how the Kerry forwards were able to kick points compared to their Mayo counterparts was exactly why they have never won an All Ireland.

Big win for Kerry tonight.  Their youngsters have made an immediate impression and they look like they could be dangerous come the summer

I thought the ref shafted Kerry too. The last black that they got was a clear foul by AOS (who by then was very close to a 2nd yellow). Bringing Cillian O connor on didn't work - he missed at least 2 easy chances.

Kerry were good and when they get the defence sorted out they'll be better
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 03, 2018, 11:28:08 PM
Well deserved win for kerry. We could have stayed another hour and struggled to get level. That said, if we hit those easy frees we could have snatched an undeserved draw. Considering they missed a penalty, we could easily have been embarrassed.

I thought we tired very early, we had nobody willing/able to punch holes in the blanket for the last 15 mins, even Boyle when he came on didn't make his trademark bursts through.

AOS, Durcan, DOC & Doc were best for us i thought although aido tired early in the second half.

It looked like we were trying to play zonal on their kickouts at times, didn't always work but seems like an interesting tactic
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: whitey on February 03, 2018, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 03, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I reckon it's shit or bust for Coen to nail down the number 6 position. Sean O'Shea had a good game last week by all accounts and may cause trouble again this time. If Boyle doesn't Start will the replacement be as good? Getting worried now thinking about it.

Not questioning his effort or commitment, but just feel that Coen does not has what it takes to be an intercounty footballer for a top team.
Last year, it seemed that Rochford had pre-determined that he would come on as a sub no matter what the situation.

Didnt he hold Connolly scoreless after Lee Keegan got black carded in 2016?
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Christmas Lights on February 04, 2018, 12:02:47 AM
Aiden O'Shea is a f**king enigma. Absolutely non existent second half
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 04, 2018, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 03, 2018, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 03, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I reckon it's shit or bust for Coen to nail down the number 6 position. Sean O'Shea had a good game last week by all accounts and may cause trouble again this time. If Boyle doesn't Start will the replacement be as good? Getting worried now thinking about it.

Not questioning his effort or commitment, but just feel that Coen does not has what it takes to be an intercounty footballer for a top team.
Last year, it seemed that Rochford had pre-determined that he would come on as a sub no matter what the situation.

Didnt he hold Connolly scoreless after Lee Keegan got black carded in 2016?

Yes.

I think he's a CHB or nothing (well, maybe a FB if you're stuck) and I think he'll nail down that position this year. Should be instructed never tí shoot though!!
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: MayoBuck on February 04, 2018, 12:13:19 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 04, 2018, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: whitey on February 03, 2018, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 03, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2018, 09:27:47 AM
I reckon it's shit or bust for Coen to nail down the number 6 position. Sean O'Shea had a good game last week by all accounts and may cause trouble again this time. If Boyle doesn't Start will the replacement be as good? Getting worried now thinking about it.

Not questioning his effort or commitment, but just feel that Coen does not has what it takes to be an intercounty footballer for a top team.
Last year, it seemed that Rochford had pre-determined that he would come on as a sub no matter what the situation.

Didnt he hold Connolly scoreless after Lee Keegan got black carded in 2016?

Yes.

I think he's a CHB or nothing (well, maybe a FB if you're stuck) and I think he'll nail down that position this year. Should be instructed never tí shoot though!!

He struggled badly tonight at CHB marking Sean O'Shea. Durcan moved onto him midway through the first half and the difference was instant. O'Shea was quiet after that.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: highorlow on February 04, 2018, 12:17:17 AM
Same old story year in year out, a lamb hasn't been born yet but Mayo are shit.

My first and last post til June.

Bye the Bye
Johnny Sextons Animal Blood won the day today for me, God bless that man!

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 04, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
Quote from: highorlow on February 04, 2018, 12:17:17 AM
Same old story year in year out, a lamb hasn't been born yet but Mayo are shit.

My first and last post til June.

Bye the Bye
Johnny Sextons Animal Blood won the day today for me, God bless that man!

Would you ever f*ck off, you'll be posting like mad here in the first two weeks of May if not before then  ;)

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 04, 2018, 12:44:06 AM
Brendan O'Sullivan came on as a sub tonight, serious physique on him, wouldn't be out of place in SDF tonight -
those "supplements" are some job
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: blast05 on February 04, 2018, 12:46:51 AM
A few observations

Douglas, B Moran, Gibbons, Regan .... we needed so much more from them. For Douglas, he just doesn't have the pace. The surprising thing about that is that his sprinting technique is poor - low knees, minimal arm action (think of the arm action of an olympic sprinter .... 'your arms lead, your legs follow'). I would have expected one of the back room team to have some level of knowledge on the technique and thus help Douglas with what he needs to improve on (plus the specific strength and conditioning that he needs to improve his pace obviously.... but technique first). And he is certainly not on his own in terms of poor sprinting technique

The tackle on Regan was the dirtiest thing i've seen on a football pitch in quite a while. I would like to see a replay to confirm my initial reaction but a yellow only was shocking

The fitness and energy levels of the Kerry team for beginning of February were amazing. Dublinesque, as was the sheer bulk of some of them. Their #17, Brendan O'Sullivan, looked like a lad that must have been using inhalers since about 2. The jersey - which was cat - was like an U-12 jersey on him!!

And finally  .... is there any other sport in the planet where the condition of the pitch makes such an enormous difference to the outcome of the match. In no other sport do the elite players have to deal with a superb surface (Croke Park) and a bog. Its the same for both sides but football in McHale Park in February versus August in Croke Park, well, they are like 2 different sports.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: joemamas on February 04, 2018, 04:33:32 AM
Quote from: blast05 on February 04, 2018, 12:46:51 AM
A few observations

Douglas, B Moran, Gibbons, Regan .... we needed so much more from them. For Douglas, he just doesn't have the pace. The surprising thing about that is that his sprinting technique is poor - low knees, minimal arm action (think of the arm action of an olympic sprinter .... 'your arms lead, your legs follow'). I would have expected one of the back room team to have some level of knowledge on the technique and thus help Douglas with what he needs to improve on (plus the specific strength and conditioning that he needs to improve his pace obviously.... but technique first). And he is certainly not on his own in terms of poor sprinting technique

The tackle on Regan was the dirtiest thing i've seen on a football pitch in quite a while. I would like to see a replay to confirm my initial reaction but a yellow only was shocking

The fitness and energy levels of the Kerry team for beginning of February were amazing. Dublinesque, as was the sheer bulk of some of them. Their #17, Brendan O'Sullivan, looked like a lad that must have been using inhalers since about 2. The jersey - which was cat - was like an U-12 jersey on him!!

And finally  .... is there any other sport in the planet where the condition of the pitch makes such an enormous difference to the outcome of the match. In no other sport do the elite players have to deal with a superb surface (Croke Park) and a bog. Its the same for both sides but football in McHale Park in February versus August in Croke Park, well, they are like 2 different sports.

Superb post
Summed up most of my thoughts
Cannot figure out Rochford's persistence with Coen , he tries but imo not good enough at this level.
Also thought Kerry were physically superior to Mayo, obviously have spent a lot of time in gym.
Not all Rochford's fault  , but our inability to score from 30 yards out is shocking and easy to defend,
It will come back to haunt us in July/ August
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: galwayman on February 04, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
Mayo never shoot the lights out in the league to be fair.
They get better as the year goes on.
I think ye will have probably found a new player that can make an impact in defence (O Donoghue).
He could be crucial if ye suffer an injury to a first choice defender.
Have always rated Nally highly but think Coen is not good enough for senior county.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: From the Bunker on February 04, 2018, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 04, 2018, 04:33:32 AM
Quote from: blast05 on February 04, 2018, 12:46:51 AM
A few observations

Douglas, B Moran, Gibbons, Regan .... we needed so much more from them. For Douglas, he just doesn't have the pace. The surprising thing about that is that his sprinting technique is poor - low knees, minimal arm action (think of the arm action of an olympic sprinter .... 'your arms lead, your legs follow'). I would have expected one of the back room team to have some level of knowledge on the technique and thus help Douglas with what he needs to improve on (plus the specific strength and conditioning that he needs to improve his pace obviously.... but technique first). And he is certainly not on his own in terms of poor sprinting technique

The tackle on Regan was the dirtiest thing i've seen on a football pitch in quite a while. I would like to see a replay to confirm my initial reaction but a yellow only was shocking

The fitness and energy levels of the Kerry team for beginning of February were amazing. Dublinesque, as was the sheer bulk of some of them. Their #17, Brendan O'Sullivan, looked like a lad that must have been using inhalers since about 2. The jersey - which was cat - was like an U-12 jersey on him!!

And finally  .... is there any other sport in the planet where the condition of the pitch makes such an enormous difference to the outcome of the match. In no other sport do the elite players have to deal with a superb surface (Croke Park) and a bog. Its the same for both sides but football in McHale Park in February versus August in Croke Park, well, they are like 2 different sports.

Superb post
Summed up most of my thoughts
Cannot figure out Rochford's persistence with Coen , he tries but imo not good enough at this level.
Also thought Kerry were physically superior to Mayo, obviously have spent a lot of time in gym.
Not all Rochford's fault  , but our inability to score from 30 yards out is shocking and easy to defend,
It will come back to haunt us in July/ August

Our first game last year in Castlebar was against Monaghan. Monaghan hit hard that night looked physically tuned, while Mayo looked like kids. You could have cut and pasted the comments from that game and posted them again after last nights game. Castlebar is not a fortress for us and has not been for a while - League or Championship! We are getting ready for summer. The League is only a means to an end. 

Anyway, going into the last quarter I was surprised Douglas was not left on. He is a decent to very good freetaker and especially from distance.

Referee was out of his dept. And took little or no action until Cillian came on and put pressure on his decisions. The thing to remember with Referees is that if they are weak enough to not make big decisions, they are weak enough to be influenced into making other decisions!
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: mayo.mick on February 04, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
Any word on Evans injury? He took some shocking belt
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 04, 2018, 11:12:42 PM
Dougie and to a lesser extent Regan really struggled to win their own ball last night yet we still persisted with long high balls into them. Only Doc was able to win ball inside. The two lads need to work harder to get away from their men and into space or we need to run it in and have those two coming on the loop
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Did Regan have his jaw broken?
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: MusclesMagoo on February 05, 2018, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Did Regan have his jaw broken?

His cheekbone is broken - having an operation this morning I understand.
To echo what was said above, it was as dirty a blow as I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: ballinaman on February 05, 2018, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: MusclesMagoo on February 05, 2018, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Did Regan have his jaw broken?

His cheekbone is broken - having an operation this morning I understand.
To echo what was said above, it was as dirty a blow as I've seen in a long time.
Eye socket broken in 2 places
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2018, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 05, 2018, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: MusclesMagoo on February 05, 2018, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Did Regan have his jaw broken?

His cheekbone is broken - having an operation this morning I understand.
To echo what was said above, it was as dirty a blow as I've seen in a long time.
Eye socket broken in 2 places

Jesus Christ. The poor fella has awful luck. That Kerry fella who assaulted him will get his comeuppance you'd hope.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 01:12:24 PM
Regan certainly is unlucky with injuries. What age is Douglas? He doesn't look up at home at this level from what I've seen of him.

I know Reape has been fairly talked up but don't think he got any game time against Monaghan either, someone said he's not making the DCU side either. Is he injured or just not been picked?

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: joemamas on February 05, 2018, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 05, 2018, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: MusclesMagoo on February 05, 2018, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 09:56:32 AM
Did Regan have his jaw broken?

His cheekbone is broken - having an operation this morning I understand.
To echo what was said above, it was as dirty a blow as I've seen in a long time.
Eye socket broken in 2 places

That is shocking, I wish him a speedy recovery.
Will the Kerry player who applied the disgusting "tackle" be called out on it.
He should be suspended. Full stop.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
Kerry have always been a seriously dirty outfit. It's gotten worse under Fitz as they're painfully aware of their limitations as footballers compared to the top two and even previous Kerry teams. A bit of small man syndrome.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: westbound on February 05, 2018, 02:30:48 PM
is there footage of the incident?

Surely if there is footage, the CCCC will look at it?

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 05, 2018, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
Kerry have always been a seriously dirty outfit. It's gotten worse under Fitz as they're painfully aware of their limitations as footballers compared to the top two and even previous Kerry teams. A bit of small man syndrome.
Without a doubt, Kerry are the most cynical team in the country by a mile. Mayo and Dublin are positive angels by comparison and even Tyrone wouldn't sink to their level.  ;D
That could never be said about Kerry in the past but, under Fitz, things have taken a turn for the worse.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2018, 03:23:17 PM
No getting away from it that was a very poor result for Mayo at home to weakened and inexperienced Kerry than finished the game with 13 men. For a top 4 team the strength in depth is not as good as it should be for Mayo and you really have to wonder where Mayo will be in the years in ahead when Boyle,Higgins,Moran etc are no longer there.
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: From the Bunker on February 07, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
Quote from: CumminsCiderLarry on February 07, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
I need something cleared up- can anyone give me a medical reason as to why Cillian (and Diarmuid) o connor both go down holding their face when pushed in the back, chest, calf muscle, etc.

James horan called Johnny cooper a cheat during the week so I can't wait to hear his comments on the Mayo diving divas

Mayos tactic has always been to try to antagonise and intimidate off the ball- and then to hit the deck at the slightest hint of a reaction.

Last saturday was no different and there's actually a good video on YouTube by someone called mayomick that shows it happening

The reaction of their players to the penalty miss- whereby 3/4 went in to shout in Sean o se's face was ludicrous and pathetic.

If they could get Cillian o connor to spend more time on his basic kicking and less on trying to get players sent off then they might actually bring their annual pity parade to an end

You clearly seen the game on the TV. 

If they could get Tipperary to spend more time on trying to get players sent off  then they might actually bring their annual pity parade to an end also!

Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2018, 08:45:19 AM
FFS FTB, shouldn't you know better than to be responding to a wum? Unlikely to be from Tipp also
Title: Re: Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, Caislean an Bharraigh, 1900, 03-Fea-2018
Post by: sligoman on February 10, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
I thought the challenge last week on Regan was one of the worst I have seen in recent years, it was thuggish and should have been dealt with a straight red at the time.

Fitzmaurice is a very hard man to take to, he talks out of both sides of his mouth and I don't like the undue pressure he applies to referees in a rather underhand manner.