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#1
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 11:42:17 PM
I get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 


#2
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

Thanks for demonstrating my point for me. Not once there did you reference, for example, tax evasion by the super wealthy. Why aren't you vehemently posting your outrage about how maybe those "10,000 disabled kids" might have a better chance if the government would crack down on tax evasion? The amount that would save would dwarf what is spent on immigrants. Think of the billions that would be available to improve the the health service etc.

But no..

It's ALL the fault of those bloody immigrants!!!!


Like I keep saying. It's either stupidity, or racism and stupidity.

Maybe the government should just enforce ALL laws-(including both immigration and tax law)
#3
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 10:32:41 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 28, 2024, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many

He keeps saying "We" so maybe he's referring to Biden's America?

Keep her lit Itchy

The day of reckoning is coming and all those shouting about "the far right" and accusing people of "racism" is going to backfire on you all
#4
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 28, 2024, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many

So please explain the "crackdown" for me on people arriving without passports?

Why was a "crackdown" needed if the law was being rigorously enforced to begin with?

Was Helen McEntee a racist for enforcing a "crackdown" and enforcing pre existing laws?

Is Helen McEntee "far right"?

Explain why the welfare payments for Ukrainians were cut in half-if they weren't overly generous to begin with

Was it racist or far right to cut the payments in half?
#5
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 10:03:36 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 09:47:01 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

Listen you are in yank land, you havent a clue what your talking about. There is no shortage of money into healthcare. There's a shortage of value for money, competency and accountability. See new children's hospital. Now stop pretending you know anything about Ireland.

Believe what you want




#6
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism
#7
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 06:50:22 PM
#8
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 06:48:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp

Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?


People have (and had) legitimate concerns that are not being addressed

The government (and Sinn Fein) had an opportunity to tackle this but they caved to the woke NGOs and just started calling people racists and far right

I have 4 immediate family members who are staunch lifelong Blueshirts and they're all voting third party at the next election

I'm not surprised that's the stock you come from.

Tell me, who is this "third party" and what's the name of the candidate?


I used the term third party in the generic sense-ie not FF, FG, SF, PBP, Labour etc

Candidates haven't been declared yet-so it will be some type of protest vote for someone like Aontu or an independent if I were to guess

Ok so who does that leave for them to vote for. Tell me the constituency and I'll even help you find out.

I would say Aontu is a possibility or a good independent who some chance of winning

#9
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp

Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?


People have (and had) legitimate concerns that are not being addressed

The government (and Sinn Fein) had an opportunity to tackle this but they caved to the woke NGOs and just started calling people racists and far right

I have 4 immediate family members who are staunch lifelong Blueshirts and they're all voting third party at the next election

I'm not surprised that's the stock you come from.

Tell me, who is this "third party" and what's the name of the candidate?


I used the term third party in the generic sense-ie not FF, FG, SF, PBP, Labour etc

Candidates haven't been declared yet-so it will be some type of protest vote for someone like Aontu or an independent if I were to guess
#10
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PM
So if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
#11
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 05:39:13 PMWhitey, why aren't you more concerned about tax evasion by the super wealthy than you are about immigrants, if concern for the public purse is your genuine motivation, rather than just, ya know...racism?

Who said I'm not concerned about it?

Last time I checked you can be concerned about more than one thing at the same time

Keep banging that racism drum instead of addressing legitimate concerns and you'll see what happens. The govt got a sneak preview as to what coming with the recent referendum debacle

#12
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 05:02:26 PM
So if the government was enforcing the law as it pertains to people landing without documentation why all of a sudden was there a CRACKDOWN? 


You only would need a crackdown if the process was being abused and you were seen to be doing nothing about it

https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712



Why cut the welfare entitlements of Ukrainians in HALF? Does that not tell you that they were double what they should have been in the first place
#13
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp

Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?


People have (and had) legitimate concerns that are not being addressed

The government (and Sinn Fein) had an opportunity to tackle this but they caved to the woke NGOs and just started calling people racists and far right

I have 4 immediate family members who are staunch lifelong Blueshirts and they're all voting third party at the next election
#14
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 03:01:56 PM
Perception is and becomes reality

O Gorman sent out a tweet in 8 languages welcoming all comers and  offering free accomadation

Higher (maybe even highest) levels of welfare to Ukrainians compared to the broader EU

Non prosecution of people showing up at Dublin Airport without ID

Govt created this problem and are going to get hammered. Sinn Fein are also going to take a serious (and we'll deserved) kicking

#15
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PM
Immigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp