Tyrone County Football and Hurling

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, April 01, 2007, 05:58:31 PM

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An Watcher

The panel is the problem.  The best players in the county aren't on it.  You can accept a couple of drop outs for different reasons but a whole raft is unacceptable.  If they can sort this out then they can start sorting things on the pitch better

BrotherMore6592

You'd look at that game today and think Derry definitely would have beaten us by 6 minimum again this year in the championship.

Much faster in transition and hungrier.

NotedObserver

Any word on management? Surely half forwards in Tyrone can kick points and track men?

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on July 16, 2023, 08:37:35 PM
You'd look at that game today and think Derry definitely would have beaten us by 6 minimum again this year in the championship.

Much faster in transition and hungrier.

Hard to argue with that assessment, in reality.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

sam03/05

Who knows. The 3 games in 3 weeks was prob a big factor again Kerry

An Watcher

I hadn't really factored this into tyrones performance.  Need to be aiming for an Ulster title or final appearance next year in advance of group stages

Mikhailov

Nearly sure Monaghan played 3 weeks in a row also and actually won their 3rd game after ET. Possibly we are reading too much into although admittedly, every week break you get allows injuries to recover.

rrhf

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 16, 2023, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on July 16, 2023, 08:37:35 PM
You'd look at that game today and think Derry definitely would have beaten us by 6 minimum again this year in the championship.

Much faster in transition and hungrier.

Hard to argue with that assessment, in reality.
I've never seen Derry play as well. They went positive.. but for the first time lads...

sam03/05

Yeah they were the only team that won and that was a pen shoot out against a team much on a par to them. There is no way Mayo are 12 points off Dublin. The 3 games in 3 weeks is certainly a factor, as mentioned by Comer on Sunday game yesterday

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 16, 2023, 11:35:04 PM
I could give some credit to the 3 weeks in a row thing if Tyrone hadn't served up total shite for the last 2 years.
It wasn't as though this performance was an outlier. It was quintessential.

Keyboard Warrior

Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.

bogball88

Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

RedHand88

Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

rrhf


bogball88

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 17, 2023, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

And therin lies the problem

Keyboard Warrior

Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 17, 2023, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: bogball88 on July 17, 2023, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 17, 2023, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 16, 2023, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: Stan on July 16, 2023, 06:12:51 PM
Two great semi-finals over the weekend. How far behind are we? Two really bad years football for Tyrone...what next?

In terms of footballing ability we aren't that far behind but a massive change in attitude is required.
Another season of going through the motions would be unacceptable and if that means dropping guys from the panel like McGeary, Burns, O'Neill and Sludden who all seem content with 1 All-Ireland then so be it.

As in Michael O'Neill is going through the motions? Not sure what you are watching there. Correct on the other three.
Perhaps not going through the motions, but just is not up to the standard required at the top level, which is perhaps is the managements fault for constantly playing him. Not sure what he adds

He would be involved in those turnovers where Tyrone swarm an attacker and force them to over carry.

Likes a good aul roar in the opponents face too.

And therin lies the problem

Not at the standard? He was 6 all year when Tyrone won the All Ireland. We're from a county that aren't exactly short on good footballers either so it isn't as if he didn't warrant his place there. 

Appreciate he didn't have a good game against Kerry. They seemed to deliberately let him carry possession and he gave it away often. But I'd argue management should have rotated things to get, for example, Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte in to MO'N's role instead when they seen who Kerry were tagging. 

There will be a rush to say "those guys aren't good enough anymore, bring in the U20's" but Tyrone aren't getting back to the top table again by throwing the baby out with the bath water and ditching players like Michael O'Neill.