Who is the most bitter after Dubs do 5 in a row

[under the bar]

Does anyone see things going back to normal in the next few years?

What is the definition of normal, Dublin losing championship games?

Dublin players running around Coppers off their tits the year round shagging anything that moves

[heffo]

Topic was on prime time there this evening. Anyone with RTE1 +1 will get it at 22:30

Link ?
Great praise for those Dublin GAA volunteers from the chairman of Na Fianna. Undoubtably the best and hardest working volunteers in the land. And an example to the rest of us.

The Na Fianna man refused to acknowledge the exorbitant funding available to Dublin GAA. He confirmed the bar has been raised and it is up to all other counties to raise their levels to catch up. And  he mentioned the hundreds of thousands of hours the volunteers put in including his club's 174 teams

It was pretty pointless having someone like him on prime time (a club mate of John Horan). He had no authority to speak about the Dublin finances.

You have to admit it was poorly covered. McStay was asked his opinion and he danced around the issue.  The Na Fianna lad stuck to the script, ''we have suffered, it's our time now, full credit to our amazing volunteers''. Sounbytes were played from an Ewan McKenna interview done earlier on Skype. Ewan on Twitter said the interview was 19 minutes long and was condensed to 90 seconds. So you can imagine how much detail was used from that interview.

In all it had a feel of RTE wanting to cover the topic but not wanting to ruffle any feathers in the Capital.

It's dangerous ground here. You don't want to be upsetting sponsors and a majority of the work force in RTE are from Dublin.

So here we are the rhetoric from Dublin who has set the bar so high, telling us (the rest of the Gaelic family) To get our house in order and try harder.

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

Answer these questions though:

Is your county team manager and his backroom team as good as Jim Gavin and his crew?
Have they instilled the same humility, dedication to the process and mental strength into their panellists?
Is your county board as good as Dublin's?
Does your county board develop strategic plans to move your county forward and see them through?
Do you have a defined, successful pathway to develop underage players through to the county setup?
Do you rush players into the senior team in the hope they can bring instant success rather than introduce them gradually?

I think nearly all counties are falling short in some way. Dublin are probably at maximum at present. My experience over my lifetime tells me that this doesn't last forever and no Dublin supporter I talk to thinks it will either. And it won't. This crying and cribbing over money used to coach kids in national schools is pitiful really.

Peter Canavan said that Dublin uphold an amateur ethos with a professional structure while the rest maintain an amateur ethos within an amateur structure.
They have professionalised player development.
Dublin Country board insist that they still have loads of work to do in Cherrywood so please keep the money flowing in.
They don't care about the health of the game of Gaelic Football.
Neither do the suits in Croke Park.

Did anyone ask Peter where the €120m from the British Govt to the Ulster council is gone? has this been distributed equally among all 32 counties?

Link ?

Read the thread

[heffo]

If we want to have the funding discussion lets have it but it has to be balanced.

Is the funding (most of it cash) from the counties with big supporters clubs included in the annual figures?
What about cash from 'influential backers' such as those alluded to in getting rid of Stephen Rochford?
Do the Ulster counties get funding from multiple sources - Westminster/GAA HQ and Ulster council?
What happened to the (heavily funded by Intel) Kildare underage development scheme in the 90's? Cash get misplaced?
Are Kildare still getting six figure grants from Intel for their schools and clubs and if so, where is this money going?

What money from Intel? Can you provide a link to these figures?

Don't have the wherewithal but first link from Google of intel + Kildare GAA

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/news/415177/53-clubs-and-schools-in-co-kildare-benefit-from-intel-s-matched-grants-program.html

[under the bar]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156979601159608&id=522964607&sfnsn=mo

[TheGreatest]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156979601159608&id=522964607&sfnsn=mo

Sure thats a common occurance in there. Not just on Dublin match days and it was people that wernt at the match.

And also, that video is tame compared to the other one doing the rounds.

[TheGreatest]

What do you call normal?
We'll have a biteen of local excitement in Connacht and th'Ulsters will have their annual love in. Only 3 teams won Ulster in this decade?
Munster will see if Kerry reach 100 before Cork reach 50.
Leinster will be about who gets to lose to Dublin in the Final .
The AI (tier 1 if it hapoens) will be about who Dublin with its huge numbers, resources, finances, home venue etc. beat in the Final.
If Tier 2 happens might generate a bit of excitement for the bottom 16 and the Leagues will at least give every County a chance of a more season Cupeen.

Normal would be :
- the Dubs losing a Leinster final
- Someone else winning the all Ireland or maybe 2 different teams winning the next 3 Sams
- Dubs getting no All Stars

as opposed to the current Dub Japanese knotweed model

Your problem is Dublin winning anything it seems or having a dominent period .

Dublin being hated and people wanting them to lose is nothing new to this decade. Its always been the case. I enjoy it and makes victory so much sweater.

[Ed Ricketts]

Did anyone ask Peter where the €120m from the British Govt to the Ulster council is gone? has this been distributed equally among all 32 counties?

Link ?

Read the thread

Very weak stuff, heffo.

[dublin7]

Did anyone ask Peter where the €120m from the British Govt to the Ulster council is gone? has this been distributed equally among all 32 counties?

Link ?

Read the thread

Very weak stuff, heffo.

Yeah, heffo is the one with the weak arguments on this thread.

I'm looking forward to 2020 already. "Buzzin for the half dozen". Does anyone know when the championship draw is scheduled for??

[RedHand88]

Does anyone see things going back to normal in the next few years?

What is the definition of normal, Dublin losing championship games?

Even occasionally losing championship games, yes.

[mup]

If we want to have the funding discussion lets have it but it has to be balanced.

Is the funding (most of it cash) from the counties with big supporters clubs included in the annual figures?
What about cash from 'influential backers' such as those alluded to in getting rid of Stephen Rochford?
Do the Ulster counties get funding from multiple sources - Westminster/GAA HQ and Ulster council?
What happened to the (heavily funded by Intel) Kildare underage development scheme in the 90's? Cash get misplaced?
Are Kildare still getting six figure grants from Intel for their schools and clubs and if so, where is this money going?

What money from Intel? Can you provide a link to these figures?

Don't have the wherewithal but first link from Google of intel + Kildare GAA

https://www.kildarenow.com/news/news/415177/53-clubs-and-schools-in-co-kildare-benefit-from-intel-s-matched-grants-program.html

So when you say Kildare 'clubs' it includes soccer, rugby etc. Not to mention scout groups and other organisations. The way you wrote it one would think this money was solely for Kildare GAA Clubs and schools. Nice try.

[dublin7]

People should watch Jeff & Kammy goes to Croker. They visit Tyrone's centre of excellence and are blown away by the facilities.

They are far better than anything available to the dubs but does anyone question how this was paid for???

I say fair play to Tyrone. They got got money from UK, GAA and sponsors to build something that would benefit the county for years to come. If some some individuals on this MB put as much effort into helping their own county as they put into nonsense research for Dubs funding their county would be better off, but unfortunately this is Ireland a nation of begrudgers and haters gonna hate

[under the bar]

What do you call normal?
We'll have a biteen of local excitement in Connacht and th'Ulsters will have their annual love in. Only 3 teams won Ulster in this decade?
Munster will see if Kerry reach 100 before Cork reach 50.
Leinster will be about who gets to lose to Dublin in the Final .
The AI (tier 1 if it hapoens) will be about who Dublin with its huge numbers, resources, finances, home venue etc. beat in the Final.
If Tier 2 happens might generate a bit of excitement for the bottom 16 and the Leagues will at least give every County a chance of a more season Cupeen.

Normal would be :
- the Dubs losing a Leinster final
- Someone else winning the all Ireland or maybe 2 different teams winning the next 3 Sams
- Dubs getting no All Stars

as opposed to the current Dub Japanese knotweed model

Your problem is Dublin winning anything it seems or having a dominent period .

Dublin being hated and people wanting them to lose is nothing new to this decade. Its always been the case. I enjoy it and makes victory so much sweater.

Enjoy the modern day success that you never had when it is was based on effort alone. Pillar and Dublin couldn't compete with Tyrone and Armagh based on volunteer effort alone despite 10/1 population advantage. Enter Bertie and the €2M euro a year scam to  buy AIs that you could not win!

[dublin7]

What do you call normal?
We'll have a biteen of local excitement in Connacht and th'Ulsters will have their annual love in. Only 3 teams won Ulster in this decade?
Munster will see if Kerry reach 100 before Cork reach 50.
Leinster will be about who gets to lose to Dublin in the Final .
The AI (tier 1 if it hapoens) will be about who Dublin with its huge numbers, resources, finances, home venue etc. beat in the Final.
If Tier 2 happens might generate a bit of excitement for the bottom 16 and the Leagues will at least give every County a chance of a more season Cupeen.

Normal would be :
- the Dubs losing a Leinster final
- Someone else winning the all Ireland or maybe 2 different teams winning the next 3 Sams
- Dubs getting no All Stars

as opposed to the current Dub Japanese knotweed model

Your problem is Dublin winning anything it seems or having a dominent period .

Dublin being hated and people wanting them to lose is nothing new to this decade. Its always been the case. I enjoy it and makes victory so much sweater.

Enjoy the modern day success that you never had when it is was based on effort alone. Pillar and Dublin couldn't compete with Tyrone and Armagh based on volunteer effort alone despite 10/1 population advantage. Enter Bertie and the €2M euro a year scam to  buy AIs that you could not win!

If you're going out drinking that's your choice. If however after a few drinks you somehow feel the need to post nonsense/lies about the Dubs/Jim Gavin then you probably need psychological help. There's no shame in that by the way. There are plenty of organisations out there that can help you

[Farrandeelin]

What do you call normal?
We'll have a biteen of local excitement in Connacht and th'Ulsters will have their annual love in. Only 3 teams won Ulster in this decade?
Munster will see if Kerry reach 100 before Cork reach 50.
Leinster will be about who gets to lose to Dublin in the Final .
The AI (tier 1 if it hapoens) will be about who Dublin with its huge numbers, resources, finances, home venue etc. beat in the Final.
If Tier 2 happens might generate a bit of excitement for the bottom 16 and the Leagues will at least give every County a chance of a more season Cupeen.

Normal would be :
- the Dubs losing a Leinster final
- Someone else winning the all Ireland or maybe 2 different teams winning the next 3 Sams
- Dubs getting no All Stars

as opposed to the current Dub Japanese knotweed model

Your problem is Dublin winning anything it seems or having a dominent period .

Dublin being hated and people wanting them to lose is nothing new to this decade. Its always been the case. I enjoy it and makes victory so much sweater.

Enjoy the modern day success that you never had when it is was based on effort alone. Pillar and Dublin couldn't compete with Tyrone and Armagh based on volunteer effort alone despite 10/1 population advantage. Enter Bertie and the €2M euro a year scam to  buy AIs that you could not win!

If you're going out drinking that's your choice. If however after a few drinks you somehow feel the need to post nonsense/lies about the Dubs/Jim Gavin then you probably need psychological help. There's no shame in that by the way. There are plenty of organisations out there that can help you

Why don't you enjoy the 5 in a row?

[Rossfan]

Do.
Meanwhile the rest of us will pay into ClubRossie, Club Tyrone, whatever they have in Mayo, Galway, Tipp, Leitrim etc etc.
Civic reception for their Champion hurlers tonight by the way.

Meanwhile Dublin7, Heffo and the rest don't have to fundraise to field Countyv eams, Their Co Board has €5m in the bank, 39,000 registers players, 1.4m population, a major multinational sponsor (Longford has a sawmill), most of their games at hone in a free National Stadium that's paid for by the rest of us, loads of "official partners ", free cars, dinners delivered etc etc.
Then we're being accused of being bitter and begrudging?
Fck sake we haven't time to be, too busy trying to raise €€€€a to keep the show on the road.