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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: April 11, 2021, 03:17:10 PM »
West Ham ain’t hanging back

Flying. Champions league race is very interesting. Leicester looking over their shoulder now, but have a lovely run of 4 games coming up to steady themselves.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 11, 2021, 02:07:50 PM »
Clearly offside

Are you high

I’m  taking the piss, VAR has ruined things like goal celebrations and these ‘close’ calls are a pain, but it’s the same for everyone, Pool fans believe they are being shafted more than most

I think most fan bases feel the same, as one does not pay as much attention to when other clubs get done in the same way. Yesterday’s decision was ridiculous. But no different to how Villa got done in the last minute against West Ham when Watkins (thought he had) scored an equaliser. And I’m sure West Ham fans can tell a similar tale etc etc etc

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: April 05, 2021, 09:06:36 PM »
Lingard is fairly finding form. Scored a great goal again tonight.

With the run in they have, they really do have a chance of 4th. Would be some achievement.

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General discussion / Re: World Cup 2022
« on: April 01, 2021, 03:37:02 PM »
Yes this Im amazed there is not more chat about this in England. Southgate is a terrible manager. A brick could have got England to the semis of the world cup the way the draw opened up. When they played anyone half decent ie Croatia and Belgium twice, they lost. The current England squad is great but with that manger they are being held back big time.

its not the first time England had a great squad though.

Around 05 they had Cole, Terry, Ferdinand, Beckham, Lampard, Scholes, Gerrard, Owen, Rooney
96 they had Seaman, Pearce, Adams, Gazza, Ince, Shearer, Sheringham

Both of these periods could have been seen as really good teams but when it comes to the big tournaments they completely shit in the nest.

Their media do them no favours mind you

I think there is more depth there now. The first 11 may have been very strong (on paper at least) for those two eras, but there wasn't strong back up across all positions. I don't think they had a quality left sided midfielder for either era. They almost have too many options right now, and when they inevitably f**k it up Southgate will have all the Captain Hindsight's telling him he picked the wrong players.

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Qatar are the current Asian champions, having beaten Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Japan on the way to that title - all World Cup regulars. They're ranked in the mid-50s in the world, just about a dozen places below Ireland and in and about the likes of Israel, Finland and Bulgaria - countries that we've always struggled with, under every manager. Anyone expecting us to rock up and trounce them just hasn't being paying attention to the trajectory of either country over recent years.


It begs the question, how can we be ranked so highly? It must be gravity alone keeping us afloat.

4 year time span. The good start made to the 2018 qualification is now out of scope, so can expect a rapid drop in places.

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We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven’t the players

They are the Asian champions
That’s like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they’re the gold standard

So there is the “gold standard” and “a bunch of plumbers”, with nothing in between? Nuance is dead.
They’re not a bunch of plumbers but ffs they’re a poor side we should be thumping if we’d anything about us. There’s massive problems in Irish soccer and sacking Kenny won’t fix that.

Agreed.

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We are drawing with a bunch of plumbers. We haven’t the players

They are the Asian champions
That’s like saying they are Lory Meagher champions. Hardly means they’re the gold standard

So there is the “gold standard” and “a bunch of plumbers”, with nothing in between? Nuance is dead.

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In relation to point 2. Does your county allow minor players to play other sports?

It's not unreasonable if you enter a pro or semi pro acadamy involving a contract that 2 and 3 kick in

I am not sure what they are told but in soccer you effectively sign for a new team (the league of ireland team)so it would be illegal for you to play with your own club. There is a young lad from our GAA club on the county minor team and I see he is still playing soccer with his local team. I am sure at certain times of the year when GAA minor is going into championship that he has to step away but thats a whole other world than signing your name on the dotted line of a contract.

I misunderstood shark - I thought he was referring to late teens. If you are 16 and in the Cork City or Munster acadamy you shouldn't be playing multiple sports. That isn't a thing for 12 year olds

Yeah he actually said 15 and 12 (when referring to his own son) in the same post.

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In relation to point 2. Does your county allow minor players to play other sports?

It's not unreasonable if you enter a pro or semi pro acadamy involving a contract that 2 and 3 kick in

My county certainly does. Beggars can’t be choosers.

There is no issue with kids becoming sport specific at a certain age. It has to happen at some point for the most talented, if they want to reach to top.  I’m no expert as to what that age should be, but it certainly shouldn’t be 12 or 13 like is being mentioned above.
I know a few lads who were on the FAI/LOI track as teenagers. The post above about training sessions being no fun is one I have heard from them all. They wanted to make it their #1 sport, but ultimately they just enjoyed it more in their GAA club.

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Ireland have been underwhelming for a long time. They qualified for the Euros in 2012. Last in group. In 2016 they got to the last 16. The Euros have been diluted to include about half of the countries. No World Cup.since 2002.

Looking at Serbia during the week, most of their journeymen don't play in England. Maybe they get better experience.
But they probably don't earn as much money as the Irish players.

Serbia drew 2-2 with Portugal and are ranked above Ireland in the world rankings. They have players who play for real Madrid, Inter Milan, Man Utd amongst others and have a stronger squad than Ireland.

Kolorov is 35 and doesn't start for Inter, he is a squad player at the end of his career.
Matic did not feature against Ireland.
Whos the Real Madrid player?

Jovic. But doubt he will ever play for them again.

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.
« on: March 10, 2021, 03:00:21 PM »
Pirlo bound to be under pressure now especially given their league position??

That was the best game of soccer I have watched in quite a while. The pace and skill and commitment was outstanding and it makes the PL look like a second rate competition.

Is the premier league not widely accepted as being behind the champions league in terms of quality? It stands to reason that the competition with all the best teams in Europe will be of higher quality than the competition with all the best teams in England.

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General discussion / Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« on: March 10, 2021, 11:00:15 AM »
It's unusual for teams midway in the table at the beginning of March to get relegated. Usually the teams in the bottom 3 are justified in employing the beal bocht. Relegation typically involves structural problems which Leeds don't seem to have.

Although not unheard of. There's usually one team who goes on a bad run in the Spring and gets dragged down into things. I agree the nature of the way they are playing suggests more points will be accumulated somewhere but it's an unwritten rule that  if you follow Leeds, nothing can ever be taken for granted.

This gets mentioned every single season around this time. You’ll hear it said right across the media. It’s not based on reality. If you’re not in the bottom 6 with 12 games to go, then you’re not going down.  The points total for 17th this season is likely to be slightly higher than last season (Villa got 35). 38 will almost certainly be enough. Leeds have 35 now. Will likely end up 45-50 points. 11th or 12th.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
« on: March 01, 2021, 10:50:16 AM »
Random question... how is Christian Benteke a premier league footballer? He has been awful for years.

And he's almost certainly on over 80k a week.

He was unreal at Villa. Never worked out after that. Palace seem to be fond of taking a punt on these duds, Benteke, Batshauyi, Sorloth, Adebayor, Chamkh (spelling), Remy, Tosin.

Something I've never understood about modern football in which managers are regularly kicked to the side like dirt, how such underperforming, clearly uninterested and unmotivated players continue to stay on the merry-go-round picking up huge wages.

They'd have to pay off his wages in full, so it doesn't create a saving. And it's not as if he is contributing zero. Scored the winning goal in their "derby" last week. Managers are paid off in full because they want to replace them. Can't have more than one manager knocking around the training ground.
When Palace signed Benteke and gave him his big wages it didn't look like such a bad move. As you said, he was unreal at Villa. He didn't fit at Liverpool, but he still scored 1 in 3 , or thereabouts. He won't get 80k or whatever in his next contract. certainly not in Europe.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: February 28, 2021, 09:16:26 PM »
Would have been a tough decision to give penalty, thought Utd played reasonably well, both teams had chances and a fair result.

Chelsea look to have pushed on from Franks reign but they’ll definitely get better once he puts his own stamp on that team with his own players next season.

Leicester seem to be free falling at the minute, they could drop out of top four

Lost 2 in a row at home, injuries to Barnes now. Where was Madison today?



Free falling? They’ve lost 2 league game this year. And have a very nice run of fixtures upcoming.

They lost at home today. Previous home game they beat Liverpool.
Madisson picked up an injury in their win against Villa last weekend.
Next 3 league games against Burnley , Brighton and Sheffield United.
They may not make champions league - but there are no signs that they are faltering yet.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: February 28, 2021, 07:43:28 PM »
Would have been a tough decision to give penalty, thought Utd played reasonably well, both teams had chances and a fair result.

Chelsea look to have pushed on from Franks reign but they’ll definitely get better once he puts his own stamp on that team with his own players next season.

Leicester seem to be free falling at the minute, they could drop out of top four

Free falling? They’ve lost 2 league game this year. And have a very nice run of fixtures upcoming.

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