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Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.

Is it an attitude thing?

There's no way in hell that Monaghan should have been beaten by Longford last year, especially when Longford then limped out against Cork, whom Monaghan would very probably have beaten.

Although I would have said the same about Down beating Monaghan on Saturday. But at least with Down, they now have the opportunity to prove it wasn't just a case of them catching Monaghan on the hop.

I think having the 2 tough games with Donegal then only a week to regroup for a game Longford team was a big factor, but there was definitely an attitude problem aswell. They must have been over confident and didn't prepare for a battle, and once Longford got on top our boys didn't have the appetite for a fight back. I'd hope that experience would guard against any sort of complacency but then I thought that for the Down game too!

It's a banana skin for our first qualifier, but if we can get over that hurdle I think we can get back to the quarter finals and give it a crack. But we need to have the stomach for the back door this time, we certainly didn't last year.

Of course it's attitude.
In terms of time and this is probably one of the best prepared county teams that Monaghan have ever sent out.
Then they make a balls of it.
Again.

The bit about been beat by Down is hard to take but good luck to them , they were the Bette team on the day.
The bit that I am more annoyed about is that investec are and have pumped a lot of money into the county and that is stArting to show in the crop of young players starting to come through.
To keep that good it we will need Investec to keep puming money in.

Do you honestly think Investec will want to associate their brand with a hapless bunch that don't mentally prepare and are a byword from for failure?

i'd agree it's attitude but I think the complacency card is played too often, a catch all reason why Monaghan have failed when strong favorites.
Banty had a good record at dragging the team off the floor after a failure and getting them focused on the next challenge.
Malachy has to do the same.

I wonder would Banty have preferred another team? ;D     Thnk fck Matty Forde has retired.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: Today at 09:58:20 PM »
Define fair share first.
A quick Google search shows that there were UEFA fines for sectarian chanting in 2008 and 2011. 2 times in the last 10 years, would be a fair share in my book.
At no time ever was/were Celtic fc charged or fined by Uefa with sectarian chanting.
Read the charge sheet not the news reports sheets.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: Today at 07:11:18 PM »

Fined for banners of a non-football nature and general pyromania, not sectarian related

Flying Palestinian flags v Hapoel in the CL qualifier was a mere 9,000 but a Bobby Sands and William Wallace "The terrorist or the dreamer" banner display earned a top of the line fine at 50,000.

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and then some other team last year.

 ;D

C'mon Main Street - get it out. No sense bottling it up. Lance that boil!
Still in therapy, possibly the memory will be released when it's deemed that I'm strong enough to handle it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: We need to talk about Diarmuid
« on: Today at 01:12:58 PM »
Gavin's being immature, do the Dubs really need this enemy, conspiracy crap, out to get us, paranoia?

Brolly's being disingenuous, he knows the CCCC can review any incident regardless of the ref's report and refer the incident back to the officials for another viewing. And he's trying to peddle the line that the shunted Connolly was provoked because he's Connolly and therefore top players need protection, special treatment. A fair enough sentiment in certain circumstances, but not this one.
Shunting goes on in the game all the time when an opposition player hangs onto the ball after a free kick has been awarded against him and he's roughly shunted around until the ball is hatched. Shunting is not directed at a player because of his reputation, it's because he's delaying the free kick.
 The referee's action should be immediate, bring the ball forward, no ref should indulge in protecting the player who's provoking the situation by delaying the free kick.
It's rare to see player take his  anger out on an official by pushing him angrily.
In this instance Joe Brolly is peddling a baseless argument but one which appeals to base emotions.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/it-was-like-watching-counsel-for-the-prosecution-joe-brolly-criticises-pat-spillane-as-diarmuid-connolly-row-reerupts-35865379.html

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 Banty and McElkennon were a very positive influence on Monaghan county football in those dark times of div 4 stagnancy and I have a lot of respect for him.
Since Banty departed, Monaghan have been mostly poor in the qualifiers, handing Offaly a very rare championship win one year, beaten by Laos another year and then some other team last year.
Anything can happen this year in Wexford.






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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: Today at 11:44:30 AM »

For once I agree with you Irish League football and the IFA is still plagued by anti catholic bigotry.
Shamrock Rovers trounced Linfield twice at that time at home in Tallaght and away in Belfast.
That You Tube video is evidence of nothing.
Linfield fans at Tallaght are shown as being raucous with quite a few absolutely fluttered and legless, doing a half hearted attempt to celebrate a goal by a few running onto the sidelines and a rendition of the sash. The Gardai and security dealt with everything in a calm orderly respectful manner.
What was of concern at that time was the return game at Windsor Pk where trouble broke out between fans and loyalist press banner headlined "sectarian violence" and blamed Rovers' fans.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sectarian-violence-erupts-at-windsor-park-during-linfield-clash-with-shamrock-rovers-29123445.html

But it could be said that Linfield fans behaved better at Tallaght than Rovers' fans did at Windsor Pk.
The fear is that Celtic fans at Windsor Pk would be dragged into something similar and bring the club into disrepute


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GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Monaghan - Saturday 24th June at 7pm
« on: June 25, 2017, 11:56:52 AM »

I thought of the great Chicago Bulls team in the last few mins when they were 1 down. They would take a time out and and discuss how to get the ball to Jordan. Even without a time out they knew to do so. They didnt even let Scottie Pippen ( mccarron)  take that melting pot shot. And they CERTAINLY DID NOT LET DENNIS f**king RODMAN (Wylie) take that shot. Even if Rodman was free to shoot for a 3 ( wylie) he knew better (even when all helter skelter in last seconds) and would work it to the man Jordan ( mcmanus).

For all Downs quality and fantastic performance yesterday the ref rode them....because he did monaghan should have worked a draw. From mcmanus scored to leave just 2 in it (and then hughes scored to put 1 in it...Hughes is another pippen) they didnt work the ball to him again, not once. Chicago Bulls wouldnt have made that mistake. Game management (needed by all players, not just a few with their heads screwed on..hughes wouldve knew to work it to mcmanus). The Bulls went all the way, they were champions. Monaghan are not
The chances, the momentum and the time were there for Monaghan to score, they failed at that and  therefore didn't earn a chance of a replay or a win, had they done so, it would have been earned.
Football is not that complicated.
The crucial final free kick to recover a game, is missed just as often as it's converted.
We've missed a few and converted quite a few of our late chances in the championship, perhaps just often as other teams missed their last good chance against us.

But because Monaghan are not the great Chicago Bulls basketball team, therefore they're not champions?
I hadn't thought about that insightful piece of gold before  ::)



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General discussion / Re: glastonbury
« on: June 25, 2017, 12:25:33 AM »
That's the first time I heard the Foo Fighters, I thought they were corny, a banal pop chorus band but the crowd seemed to like them.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Monaghan - Saturday 24th June at 7pm
« on: June 24, 2017, 10:29:25 PM »
Well earned win for Down in an exciting game, Down worked hard to hold out in those last minutes. No complaints here.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Monaghan - Saturday 24th June at 7pm
« on: June 23, 2017, 09:06:55 PM »
If that happens again you'll know you're dreaming.
I remember the crowing on here from some Down fans about that facile victory in 2012.
A decade of revenge is in order.




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The Ulster finalists will meet again in the semi final if both teams win their subsequent games?

Well since the quarter finals take place before the semis Id only imagine your scenario is possible if Down win on Sunday.
Should both finalist win subsequent games, what difference does it make (and where does the difference come about) to an AI semi final pairing between the ulster finalists, if Down beat Monaghan on Saturday?
I was basing the likelihood of Monaghan making a semi slim considering Monaghan's record in quarter finals.
Obviously I underestimated the depth of your moronicity.

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How does their record stand now in QFs exactly?
About the same as the number of your IQ  ;D




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GAA Discussion / Re: Down v Monaghan - Saturday 24th June at 7pm
« on: June 23, 2017, 01:50:35 PM »
There's some competition on the subs bench to get a decent run out.

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General discussion / Re: The Cricket thread
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:54:15 AM »
There's an article in the IT today which explores the effects of the new status
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/irish-cricket-s-long-wait-for-test-status-is-over-1.3130207
Funding doubled  at least over an 8 year period, raising it from 18 million to 36 million.

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Do Monaghan feel this is their year to finally kick on to the next level?
The team think they're in a better place than previous years, what that means remains to be seen.

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What did you make of the match last weekend?
In a nutshell, Tyrone very good, tactically totally dominant and made Donegal look poor, to the point of despair.
Peter Harte is an outstanding player.



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