The SDLP

[RedHand88]

A brief summation of Clare Hanna's Radio Ulster interview this afternoon:

At the start of the interview, defended her partys decision to go by stating that a Church commemoration is very different to, for instance, an academic event discussing the past. Then later attacks SF for having attended an panel discussion about partition, claiming that it's "no different" to going to a Church commemoration.

Said Michael D was right to refuse to attend, but that the SDLP are right to attend.

Said Michael D rightly decided that his political neutrality meant he could't go, then repeatedly argued that the SDLP are right to go because it's definitely not a political event - (even at uttering the line "Of course it's not a political event. Everything is political")

Shocking.

[Armagh18]

Aaaaaanyway...

I hear Claire Hanna is on the radio trying to defend the indefensible decision to attend this commemoration. Only about two weeks ago, she was all over the airwaves trying to defend Michael D Higgins for his refusal to attend. Laughable stuff.

Mind you, if there's one thing Claire Hanna is consistent in, it's being inconsistent. She's a member of the SDLP, which is a sister party of FF - a party she says she doesn't like, while she has appeared at numerous Labour Party conferences but canvased at the last election for two FG candidates.

They cant be a sister party, sure boys were saying SDLP are not nationalist and FF by definition are republican. Show some consistency yourself ffs

Not with Monty Burns from the simpsons in charge they certainly aren't.

[Itchy]

Aaaaaanyway...

I hear Claire Hanna is on the radio trying to defend the indefensible decision to attend this commemoration. Only about two weeks ago, she was all over the airwaves trying to defend Michael D Higgins for his refusal to attend. Laughable stuff.

Mind you, if there's one thing Claire Hanna is consistent in, it's being inconsistent. She's a member of the SDLP, which is a sister party of FF - a party she says she doesn't like, while she has appeared at numerous Labour Party conferences but canvased at the last election for two FG candidates.

They cant be a sister party, sure boys were saying SDLP are not nationalist and FF by definition are republican. Show some consistency yourself ffs

Not with Monty Burns from the simpsons in charge they certainly aren't.

FF republican? More like Publican.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

https://www.fiannafail.ie/

Yous boys are some experts, doctorates all round.
SDLP are not nationalist, and FF need to change their party title. What are these parties and what makes them sister parties?

Bar stool academics

[Tres Bien]

https://www.fiannafail.ie/

Yous boys are some experts, doctorates all round.
SDLP are not nationalist, and FF need to change their party title.

Bar stool academics

So if you say you are something that makes it true?

Solid logic there, you're a bit of a parody at this point.

[Snapchap]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

https://www.fiannafail.ie/

Yous boys are some experts, doctorates all round.
SDLP are not nationalist, and FF need to change their party title.

Bar stool academics

So if you say you are something that makes it true?

Solid logic there, you're a bit of a parody at this point.

calm down Mr 22 Posts

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

[johnnycool]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

FF are indeed meant to be a republican party but with arse splintered Martin at the helm they hide it well.

I'd agree with you on one thing you did post that there's a UI on the way and it won't be driven by one party, especially SF (I just believe they're too toxic for the middle ground in NI to swing that vote), it needs driven by the will of the people in NI through various different civic bodies and a government conducive to it in Dublin.
The seeds are sown and ironically being fertilised by the stupidity of the DUP and their ilk.

[Tres Bien]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

FF are indeed meant to be a republican party but with arse splintered Martin at the helm they hide it well.

I'd agree with you on one thing you did post that there's a UI on the way and it won't be driven by one party, especially SF (I just believe they're too toxic for the middle ground in NI to swing that vote), it needs driven by the will of the people in NI through various different civic bodies and a government conducive to it in Dublin.
The seeds are sown and ironically being fertilised by the stupidity of the DUP and their ilk.

What is the middle ground?

SF are nowhere near as toxic as some of the dinosaur age bitory we get from DUP/UUP/TUV. So if it's a case of one side poisoning the well then the mainstream unionist poison outpowers the nationalist one all ends up.

[Snapchap]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

Well you certainly haven't won it LOL! If you want to argue that FF are republican, you'll need to provide a bit of a stronger argument than "well their slogan says they are" lol!!

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

Well you certainly haven't won it LOL! If you want to argue that FF are republican, you'll need to provide a bit of a stronger argument than "well their slogan says they are" lol!!

Admittedly they are much more than that in their eyes, a broader thinking European party rather than the anti-EU SF version(despite the recent laughable u-turn on europe). Republican is after all a narrow, insular ethos

[johnnycool]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

FF are indeed meant to be a republican party but with arse splintered Martin at the helm they hide it well.

I'd agree with you on one thing you did post that there's a UI on the way and it won't be driven by one party, especially SF (I just believe they're too toxic for the middle ground in NI to swing that vote), it needs driven by the will of the people in NI through various different civic bodies and a government conducive to it in Dublin.
The seeds are sown and ironically being fertilised by the stupidity of the DUP and their ilk.

What is the middle ground?

SF are nowhere near as toxic as some of the dinosaur age bitory we get from DUP/UUP/TUV. So if it's a case of one side poisoning the well then the mainstream unionist poison outpowers the nationalist one all ends up.

Those people from a unionist and indeed nationalist background that will vote for the economic reality of their bank balances rather than a misty eyed Irish Socialist Republic.

[Snapchap]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

Well you certainly haven't won it LOL! If you want to argue that FF are republican, you'll need to provide a bit of a stronger argument than "well their slogan says they are" lol!!

Admittedly they are much more than that in their eyes, a broader thinking European party rather than the anti-EU SF version(despite the recent laughable u-turn on europe). Republican is after all a narrow, insular ethos

I didn't ask for a critical analysis of Irish Republicanism as an ideology. I'm asking where the evidence is that they are Irish Republican in ethos - especially when they steadfastly refuse to organise on an All-Ireland basis (and their leader in fact has numerous times attacked SF politicians for "coming down here")

[Tres Bien]

I remember Micheal Martin being interviewed by Tommy Gorman and was pressed for about 5-6 minutes on whether or not he actually supported a united Ireland and he wouldn't give an answer. Yeah, big republicans.

Very conclusive there. Massive in terms of evidence. You won the debate

FF are indeed meant to be a republican party but with arse splintered Martin at the helm they hide it well.

I'd agree with you on one thing you did post that there's a UI on the way and it won't be driven by one party, especially SF (I just believe they're too toxic for the middle ground in NI to swing that vote), it needs driven by the will of the people in NI through various different civic bodies and a government conducive to it in Dublin.
The seeds are sown and ironically being fertilised by the stupidity of the DUP and their ilk.

What is the middle ground?

SF are nowhere near as toxic as some of the dinosaur age bitory we get from DUP/UUP/TUV. So if it's a case of one side poisoning the well then the mainstream unionist poison outpowers the nationalist one all ends up.

Those people from a unionist and indeed nationalist background that will vote for the economic reality of their bank balances rather than a misty eyed Irish Socialist Republic.

And what do you think DUP/TUV/UUP's protocol stance will do for their bank balances?

That's my point, SF could hardly be any more toxic than the DUP/UUP/TUV even if they tried to be.