Paris....advice

[armaghniac]

And the Germans only operated over a few years rather than centuries

The Germans were more efficient than the British in wrecking things.
But when you travel on the Continent and see old abbeys and churches operational when here they are roofless ruins, you realise how much was lost.

[Hardy]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

[GJL]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

Good post..

[J70]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

Well said.

[seafoid]

And the Germans only operated over a few years rather than centuries

The Germans were more efficient than the British in wrecking things.
But when you travel on the Continent and see old abbeys and churches operational when here they are roofless ruins, you realise how much was lost.

Alsace had a pretty crap history over the last 500 years between wars, famines, plagues, being run by the Nazis etc  but it has a lot more functional "patrimoine" than Ireland has. Bad times didn't go on indefinitely.
The English were vicious. I think the Israelis in Gaza would be comparable.

[tonto1888]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

Who said we shouldn't bewail it's loss? Who said to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies. And how is it a human tragedy?

[Insane Bolt]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

So your definition of tragedy is superior to 'some fools'.....unbelievable Jeff😂
It's a building.....they can be rebuilt/restored.....so the news coverage et all is IMHO way over the top.
As for those tycoons contributing to the restoration.....you are right they can do whatever they like with their money.....but spare us the sanctimonious bull.

[seafoid]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

So your definition of tragedy is superior to 'some fools'.....unbelievable Jeff😂
It's a building.....they can be rebuilt/restored.....so the news coverage et all is IMHO way over the top.
As for those tycoons contributing to the restoration.....you are right they can do whatever they like with their money.....but spare us the sanctimonious bull.

The Customs house and Four Courts were bombed in the Irish civil war and the historical records of the country were lost. That was a tragedy.
Not everything can be rebuilt.

[trailer]

Some people on this thread should seek immediate help from trained health professionals.

[ziggysego]

Over €300 million pledged already for restoration......incredible......tycoons trying to outdo each other.....

'Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'

Indeed.

Where's the €300 million for where it's really needed?

[armaghniac]

Some people on this thread should seek immediate help from trained health professionals.

Or at least stop the self medication.

[north_antrim_hound]

Over €300 million pledged already for restoration......incredible......tycoons trying to outdo each other.....

'Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'

Indeed.

Where's the €300 million for where it's really needed?

I would say contributions to save life's wouldn't have the same impact in their social circles so f..k it let's re build this gothic church and get some back slaps from the in crowd. He's French so he can adopt the "let them eat cake" mindset of two hundred years ago.

[Eamonnca1]

No loss of life but this is a tragedy for humanity. Terrible.

Hopefully those windows survived.

What's happening in Yemen is a tragedy for humanity......what's even more tragic for humanity is people care more about a building/windows.....than human suffering.

That's exactly what crossed my mind when the media went into overdrive on this. The billionaire that owns Gucci is gonna pay for restoration but how much would he pledge to Syrian refugees. Bunch of jumped up attention seeking pretentious idiots the lot of them.
How many of these people have a passion for gothic architecture

And the traditional Irish begrudgery and gobshitery is underway.

Yesterday I saw the people of Paris responding with dignity to this, singing hymns while watching in sadness but taking comfort in each other's presence. It was a beautiful moment. They say that when you're explaining to your kids why bad things happen in the world, it's good practice to point out how this sort of thing often brings out the best in people. They say that whenever something bad is happening, look out for how the place is full of good people trying to put it right or trying to help others.

Unfortunately there's something about the anonymity of social media that also brings out the worst in people, and I was bracing myself for the inevitable that was sure to follow today. As soon as anybody tries to do anything worthwhile, out come the begrudgers and the usual tiresome "what about the homeless" brigade.

"He's spending millions fixing problem X? How much did he spend on problem Y?"

"He's spending millions fixing problem Y? How much did he spend on problem X?"

The city of Paris is a priceless treasure. The old part of town is a work of art. It has survived revolutions, world wars, terrorist attacks and Christ knows what all, and we're very lucky to have it. They say that France falling to the Nazis as quickly as it did was why so much of Paris survived intact.

The loss of human life is not the only bad thing that can happen in this world. Imagine if Dublin's GPO were to burn down. Or Navan Fort were to be obliterated somehow (which almost happened). Or if St Patrick's Cathedral in Armagh were to burn down. Or if another beautiful building like Belfast City Hall were to be lost. Are you telling me we've got no business mourning the loss of heritage if nobody dies in the process? That it's no big deal if an irreplaceable treasure gets lost? Was it no big deal when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas of Bamyan?

Cop yourselves on.

[Eamonnca1]

An 850-year-old beacon of human heritage is destroyed and all some fools can think to say is that we shouldn't call it a human tragedy because there's only one definition of tragedy.

Or they suggest that we shouldn't bewail the loss unless we issue a preamble listing all tragedies (to be mediated by these commentators themselves, we assume).

They seem to believe that to mourn one tragedy implies complete disregard for other tragedies.

And then, when someone offers to pay for its restoration, they condemn him for not paying to remediate other tragedies (thereby also assuming that he has never contributed to any other cause).

Could not agree more. There are times when the internet would put your head astray.

[Insane Bolt]

No loss of life but this is a tragedy for humanity. Terrible.

Hopefully those windows survived.

What's happening in Yemen is a tragedy for humanity......what's even more tragic for humanity is people care more about a building/windows.....than human suffering.

That's exactly what crossed my mind when the media went into overdrive on this. The billionaire that owns Gucci is gonna pay for restoration but how much would he pledge to Syrian refugees. Bunch of jumped up attention seeking pretentious idiots the lot of them.
How many of these people have a passion for gothic architecture

And the traditional Irish begrudgery and gobshitery is underway.

Yesterday I saw the people of Paris responding with dignity to this, singing hymns while watching in sadness but taking comfort in each other's presence. It was a beautiful moment. They say that when you're explaining to your kids why bad things happen in the world, it's good practice to point out how this sort of thing often brings out the best in people. They say that whenever something bad is happening, look out for how the place is full of good people trying to put it right or trying to help others.

Unfortunately there's something about the anonymity of social media that also brings out the worst in people, and I was bracing myself for the inevitable that was sure to follow today. As soon as anybody tries to do anything worthwhile, out come the begrudgers and the usual tiresome "what about the homeless" brigade.

"He's spending millions fixing problem X? How much did he spend on problem Y?"

"He's spending millions fixing problem Y? How much did he spend on problem X?"

The city of Paris is a priceless treasure. The old part of town is a work of art. It has survived revolutions, world wars, terrorist attacks and Christ knows what all, and we're very lucky to have it. They say that France falling to the Nazis as quickly as it did was why so much of Paris survived intact.

The loss of human life is not the only bad thing that can happen in this world. Imagine if Dublin's GPO were to burn down. Or Navan Fort were to be obliterated somehow (which almost happened). Or if St Patrick's Cathedral in Armagh were to burn down. Or if another beautiful building like Belfast City Hall were to be lost. Are you telling me we've got no business mourning the loss of heritage if nobody dies in the process? That it's no big deal if an irreplaceable treasure gets lost? Was it no big deal when the Taliban blew up the Buddhas of Bamyan?

Cop yourselves on.

Do you do stand up?😂😂😂😂