Ulster Club SFC 2018

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Taylor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 05, 2018, 08:12:31 AM
Donnelly is a very good keeper and adds a real dimension to the Coalisland team. Our keeper is only aged 19 so I'd give him a bit of time Taylor. He actually is a really good keeper and will grow into a much better one. He had one of his weaker games the other night but it's his championship debut season. He's only conceded 4 goals in 7 games so he's doing ok.

He did look like a young gassun BC and you would know him better than me but he looked dodgy under the high ball and many of his kick outs were poor. The ball constantly being thrown on didnt help him though. And the Cross players were visibly pissed as they were driving the balls back towards the crowd when they were thrown on.
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far

Taylor

Quote from: tonto1888 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:20 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
Was behind the nets on Saturday night and the young kid was being actively encouraged by his Da to throw the balls back on just before the Cross kickout.
When a steward came over the Da took out his phone and started recording the steward. At half time the kid took a black kit bag full of balls down to the other end and the Da followed.
Petey Donnelly is just a superb keeper. The Cross keeper is not.
Young ONeill hit a point in second half and it must have started out 10/15 yards wide but he judged the wind to perfection.
Our latest All Star's antics were an embarassment.
The Island will know this was won they could have won if they had just played some football.

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by 1 point. Far better team. Intermediate football in Armagh must be poor if this is the best they have.

On Sunday Scotstown should have been home and hosed but in the end were hanging on for dear life. Strange game.
From where I was it looked a penalty but ref obviously had a better view.
Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by a point? You must have watched a different game. Granted St Peters didn't play that well but they could easily be looking forward to an Ulster Semi had they not missed two easy frees. And that's not to mention some of their poor shooting

Tattyreagh cut their defence open everytime they went on the attack. Massive difference in how good the forwards were for each team.

Is that big midfielder Findon the guy that was playing for Armagh seniors a few years back? Has he been injured or what happened to him as havent heard of him recently?

tonto1888

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 05, 2018, 08:30:20 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
Was behind the nets on Saturday night and the young kid was being actively encouraged by his Da to throw the balls back on just before the Cross kickout.
When a steward came over the Da took out his phone and started recording the steward. At half time the kid took a black kit bag full of balls down to the other end and the Da followed.
Petey Donnelly is just a superb keeper. The Cross keeper is not.
Young ONeill hit a point in second half and it must have started out 10/15 yards wide but he judged the wind to perfection.
Our latest All Star's antics were an embarassment.
The Island will know this was won they could have won if they had just played some football.

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by 1 point. Far better team. Intermediate football in Armagh must be poor if this is the best they have.

On Sunday Scotstown should have been home and hosed but in the end were hanging on for dear life. Strange game.
From where I was it looked a penalty but ref obviously had a better view.
Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by a point? You must have watched a different game. Granted St Peters didn't play that well but they could easily be looking forward to an Ulster Semi had they not missed two easy frees. And that's not to mention some of their poor shooting

Tattyreagh cut their defence open everytime they went on the attack. Massive difference in how good the forwards were for each team.

Is that big midfielder Findon the guy that was playing for Armagh seniors a few years back? Has he been injured or what happened to him as havent heard of him recently?
Agreed St Peters forwards didn't have their best day. It is yeah he didn't have a good game at all on Saturday

Mikhailov

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
Was behind the nets on Saturday night and the young kid was being actively encouraged by his Da to throw the balls back on just before the Cross kickout.
When a steward came over the Da took out his phone and started recording the steward. At half time the kid took a black kit bag full of balls down to the other end and the Da followed.
Petey Donnelly is just a superb keeper. The Cross keeper is not.
Young ONeill hit a point in second half and it must have started out 10/15 yards wide but he judged the wind to perfection.
Our latest All Star's antics were an embarassment.
The Island will know this was won they could have won if they had just played some football.

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by 1 point. Far better team. Intermediate football in Armagh must be poor if this is the best they have.

On Sunday Scotstown should have been home and hosed but in the end were hanging on for dear life. Strange game.
From where I was it looked a penalty but ref obviously had a better view.
Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground

what was he up to?

in fairness, I thought Hampsey was very good and has been all season. He is a strong footballer but can play a bit as well. I didn't notice any poor behaviour from him......or is it McKernan you refer to?

Taylor

Quote from: Mikhailov on November 05, 2018, 09:20:43 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM
Was behind the nets on Saturday night and the young kid was being actively encouraged by his Da to throw the balls back on just before the Cross kickout.
When a steward came over the Da took out his phone and started recording the steward. At half time the kid took a black kit bag full of balls down to the other end and the Da followed.
Petey Donnelly is just a superb keeper. The Cross keeper is not.
Young ONeill hit a point in second half and it must have started out 10/15 yards wide but he judged the wind to perfection.
Our latest All Star's antics were an embarassment.
The Island will know this was won they could have won if they had just played some football.

Tattyreagh hammered St Peters by 1 point. Far better team. Intermediate football in Armagh must be poor if this is the best they have.

On Sunday Scotstown should have been home and hosed but in the end were hanging on for dear life. Strange game.
From where I was it looked a penalty but ref obviously had a better view.
Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground

what was he up to?

in fairness, I thought Hampsey was very good and has been all season. He is a strong footballer but can play a bit as well. I didn't notice any poor behaviour from him......or is it McKernan you refer to?

Sorry - All Star nominee and nominated for YPOTY was the player with the behavioural problems. If he had just played ball he could have got them across the line.

Hampsey was solid and was suprised they didnt move him to see if he could have had a bigger influence on the game

mackers

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:47:18 AM
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far
Bullshit.  You obviously weren't at the county final to see the standard of forward play Cross had to encounter there.  They didn't have it all their own way throughout the Armagh championship.
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

armaghniac

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:47:18 AM
He did look like a young gassun BC and you would know him better than me but he looked dodgy under the high ball and many of his kick outs were poor. The ball constantly being thrown on didnt help him though. And the Cross players were visibly pissed as they were driving the balls back towards the crowd when they were thrown on.
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far

Kickouts worked better in the Armagh final, but were less good on Saturday Cullyhanna and  Ballymacnab were good opposition for Cross in Armagh.

Cross have room for improvement from Saturday and will need to make this improvement.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: mackers on November 05, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:47:18 AM
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far
Bullshit.  You obviously weren't at the county final to see the standard of forward play Cross had to encounter there.  They didn't have it all their own way throughout the Armagh championship.

Absolutely. His kick outs have been excellent all year. He's a young lad playing on his first Ulster match after replacing one of the next keepers in the country of the last 20 years,  so he's doing alright. Ballymacnab and Cullyhanna would have given Coalisland just as much as we did on Saturday and to suggest that the quality isn't in armagh is ignorance of the facts

Main Street

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM

Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground
Where do get off on Beggan seems to love the attention? and that he needs to keep his feet on the ground?  You assume nonsense.

Taylor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 05, 2018, 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: mackers on November 05, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:47:18 AM
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far
Bullshit.  You obviously weren't at the county final to see the standard of forward play Cross had to encounter there.  They didn't have it all their own way throughout the Armagh championship.

Absolutely. His kick outs have been excellent all year. He's a young lad playing on his first Ulster match after replacing one of the next keepers in the country of the last 20 years,  so he's doing alright. Ballymacnab and Cullyhanna would have given Coalisland just as much as we did on Saturday and to suggest that the quality isn't in armagh is ignorance of the facts

The performance in Ulster of Armagh clubs (other than Cross) wouldnt back this statement up

APM

Of the last four teams that won the Armagh Championship outside of Cross:
Maghery got to the Ulster Club Semi, but were well beaten by Kilcoo
Harps were beaten by a goal by Derrygonnelly
Pearse Ogs narrowly beaten by St Gall's (who went on to win the All Ireland) -
Mullabawn won Ulster  ;)

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 05, 2018, 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: mackers on November 05, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:47:18 AM
The 4 goals in 7 games probably more to do with the quality of opposition you have faced so far
Bullshit.  You obviously weren't at the county final to see the standard of forward play Cross had to encounter there.  They didn't have it all their own way throughout the Armagh championship.

Absolutely. His kick outs have been excellent all year. He's a young lad playing on his first Ulster match after replacing one of the next keepers in the country of the last 20 years,  so he's doing alright. Ballymacnab and Cullyhanna would have given Coalisland just as much as we did on Saturday and to suggest that the quality isn't in armagh is ignorance of the facts

The performance in Ulster of Armagh clubs (other than Cross) wouldnt back this statement up


A bit like the Tyrone teams, a lot of quality in the local scene, poor when it comes to Ulster
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Taylor

Quote from: APM on November 05, 2018, 12:58:47 PM
Of the last four teams that won the Armagh Championship outside of Cross:
Maghery got to the Ulster Club Semi, but were well beaten by Kilcoo
Harps were beaten by a goal by Derrygonnelly
Pearse Ogs narrowly beaten by St Gall's (who went on to win the All Ireland) -
Mullabawn won Ulster  ;)

So outside of Cross they have won 1 game in the last 20 years.
Ok so

charlieTully

Quote from: Main Street on November 05, 2018, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:02:39 AM

Beggan was like an outfield player at times and his place kicking was fantastic but he seems to love the attention. Would do well to watch back the AISF to keep his feet on the ground
Where do get off on Beggan seems to love the attention? and that he needs to keep his feet on the ground?  You assume nonsense.

He loves the attention surely. He was running up and down the field like a blue arsed fly yesterday. No call for it at all.

APM

Taylor, my attempt at humour clearly went over your head.  In fairness the record of Armagh teams, in the last 15 years, outside of Cross has been abysmal.  Blackwater the only team to win an Ulster Junior Club.  No club from Armagh has won the intermediate!

Tyrone are the opposite.  Very poor record at Senior Ulster Club level but strong at intermediate and junior.  Tells me that they have a more even spread of ability across the three tiers.  But also, with a wider spread of teams coming out of Senior Tyrone Championship, and no-one dominating, Tyrone teams don't don't get the benefit of building experience at Ulster level and building towards it in the way a dominant team can.