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Title: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 01, 2007, 03:00:48 PM
 Some Liveline today.

Alan 'Fatpuss' Bradley in argument with the Sunday Worst's Paul Williams.

All the innerciddy villians ringing in slating Williams and making out their brudders etc to being one step away from sainthood. One villian even rang in from Portlaoise before the mobile was whipped offa him.

Depressing radio   :-\
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Rossie11 on May 01, 2007, 03:09:57 PM
QuoteOne villian even rang in from Portlaoise before the mobile was whipped offa him.
If the b*stard was on a chain gang breaking rock ringing Liveline would be least of his worries..
"correction system" in this country is a joke
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2007, 03:37:11 PM
I agree 100% Rossie but if you had them out doing that everyone from the unions to the do-gooder mafia would be losing the plot. Personally if I were in power I'd tell them all to f**k off and plough ahead with it.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 01, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 01, 2007, 03:00:48 PM
Some Liveline today.

Alan 'Fatpuss' Bradley in argument with the Sunday Worst's Paul Williams.

All the innerciddy villians ringing in slating Williams and making out their brudders etc to being one step away from sainthood. One villian even rang in from Portlaoise before the mobile was whipped offa him.

Depressing radio   :-\

dont know about depressing SS but I dont particularly like the tw*t williams let alone the inner ciddy scombags !

must have been a bizarre show!
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: full back on May 01, 2007, 03:51:13 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on May 01, 2007, 03:09:57 PM
QuoteOne villian even rang in from Portlaoise before the mobile was whipped offa him.
If the b*stard was on a chain gang breaking rock ringing Liveline would be least of his worries..
"correction system" in this country is a joke

Correct Rosie
If the powers that be had any balls they would adopt the same style of prison that the sheriff has in nevada I think - work the b4stards to the bone
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Rossie11 on May 01, 2007, 04:04:39 PM
You'd have my vote Seanie.
The Human rights brigade would be up in arms but in my book once a person makes the decision to affect the human rights of the ordinary punter be it drug dealing, murder, kidnapping and just having a run-of-the-mill high speed shoot out on the M50 they lose the majority of their rights.
Bar getting 3 square meals a day, running water and a roof over their heads I would give them sweet FA.
Mobile phones?? Satellite TV?? Gyms?? Chinese take outs?? Its a sick joke

BTW Lynchbhoy what have you against Williams? I know a few who dont like him.. always wondered why.
Not many would do what he is doing..I think he is fairly genuine..
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Donagh on May 01, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
Heard a bit of it myself. Paul Williams is a poor excuse for a journalist working for an even poorer excuse for a newspaper.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Kerry Mike on May 01, 2007, 04:49:10 PM
I think Williams needs to be commended for exposing these scumbags that are a scourge on our society.
He has in part taken over the role from Veronica Guerin, his life must be under constant threat and you would need some balls to do that.

Granted that paper he writes for is a load of trash but its one of the few that will stand up to these criminals.

How these scum can still be using mobile phones in prison is beyond me. Surely there is some kind of blocking device that can be used, and how are they getting them into the prisons.



Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Ryano on May 01, 2007, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: Donagh on May 01, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
Heard a bit of it myself. Paul Williams is a poor excuse for a journalist working for an even poorer excuse for a newspaper.

Bit harsh on Williams i think Donagh. I totally agree with you that he writes for a tabloid (i wouldn't apply the word newspaper to it) rag but he always struck me as being a fairly genuine sort of character who is interested in exposing some of the scummy elements that infest parts of Dublin and its surrounds. I know he can blow his own trumpet at times but i'd grant him that for the risks he takes to his own well being.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: muppet on May 01, 2007, 05:44:55 PM
 The problem here is that there is only one type of criminal in this country.

If you are breathlysed at 10am after a feed of drink that stopped at midnight the night before and are .01 over the limit you are treated the same as a fella who has driven to the pub, had 15 pints and got caught driving home. You are also sent to the same place as any paedophile except that they are separated for their own protection, you on the other hand share the main prisons with the murderers. All this even though another 1/2 hour might have seen you pass the test.

There should be categories of prisons to deal with the different grades of transgressor. Hard time should mean hard time for the serial offenders and for serious crimes. We shouldn't have a one size fits all system.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 01, 2007, 07:31:16 PM
Whatever about Williams the fact that this sc**bag, Fatpuss, had the rule of the airwaves "I deal in just a few aul horses" along with some of his scummy cronies is one of the lowest of low points for Joe Duffy, alongside his Bobby Robson humiliation.

The thing kicked off with Dublin long time SF stalward, Christy Burke, now canvessing for Mary 'Where's Gerry' Lou, ringing in with his gripe that Paul Williams was an anti-Shinner and was being "unfair". Williams came on and went on a rant (justified or not, you decide) on the IRA network in Dublin, docks heist, shielding paedophiles, intimidating good decent folk who wanted to speak out etc etc.

Burke soon got sidelined when 'Fatpuss' came on and soon Liveline sounded like Adrian Kennedys Late Night Phone Show with liberal usage of "fucks" and "cnuts" etc.

I am sure it's streamed on www.radio1.ie if ye can be bothered.

Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 01, 2007, 08:39:06 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on May 01, 2007, 04:04:39 PM
BTW Lynchbhoy what have you against Williams? I know a few who dont like him.. always wondered why.
Not many would do what he is doing..I think he is fairly genuine..
I fully agree with exposing these criminals but think that williams destroys credibility by inventing stuff and not following up and backing up his stories etc....bit too watery , therefor losing any initiative and stick that could be used to beat these scumbags

SS
I cringe to think that SF are associated with so many scumbags south of the border here- while many folk will say that the IRA etc and SF are all the same kind of people on both sides of the border, I will state that these people around dublin are most def not of the same ilk as the folks I know if in the six counties and whatever support I may feel for the northern contingent, I have no empathy down here to a lot of the southern SF and ex ira (who were more or less a front for their own criminal money making activities - and I dont agree that this was the same north f the border).
Didnt know williams was 'anti -sf'
cant blame him or anyone else for disliking a vast amount of southern SF contingent
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Fionntamhnach on May 01, 2007, 09:45:19 PM
While I wouldn't know too much about the Dublin gangs, I do know that "Fatpuss" was at least one of the men responsible a couple of years ago for the existence of a pirate radio station called Splash FM that featured local "rappers" talking about slitting open Chinese workers, calling old women around the northside rats etc. not to mention giving out tips for joyriders! The station was shut down not by Comreg (as is the usual case) but by the Gardai.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Silky on May 01, 2007, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: Donagh on May 01, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
Heard a bit of it myself. Paul Williams is a poor excuse for a journalist working for an even poorer excuse for a newspaper.
Phone Connolly House quick Donagh! I think you'll find that's no longer SF policy.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: thejuice on May 01, 2007, 10:04:45 PM
QuoteMobile phones?? Satellite TV?? Gyms?? Chinese take outs??

To get these things in normal life you need a job. Yet these f**kers get it for free for committing a crime. I cant afford Satelitte TV, gym membership costs a shit load, and these f**kers get it for being bad people. thats a load of shite!!! >:(
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Donagh on May 02, 2007, 12:52:08 AM
Quote from: Silky on May 01, 2007, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: Donagh on May 01, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
Heard a bit of it myself. Paul Williams is a poor excuse for a journalist working for an even poorer excuse for a newspaper.
Phone Connolly House quick Donagh! I think you'll find that's no longer SF policy.

When Williams and his rag stop inventing stories and ruining peoples reputations on the back of tip-offs from the likes of "Fatpuss" maybe then I'll change my opinion. Until then in my book he's a guttersnipe of the worse order. Do I really need to remind people of the journalist 'standards' that rag adheres to?
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: stephenite on May 02, 2007, 01:50:07 AM
Who's reputation was ruined By Williams? 
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Donagh on May 02, 2007, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: stephenite on May 02, 2007, 01:50:07 AM
Who's reputation was ruined By Williams? 
I was thinking more of the paper itself but from your own part of the world I can think of Williams doing a job on Mark Garavan and the other protestors, yet I doubt you'll ever hear him say that his boss is also the owner of an offshore gas exploration company. Personally I'm still waiting on the Williams expose on his mucker at the Sunday World with a colourful history involving bank robberies and currency counterfeiting on behalf of the Stickies and North Korea. 

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Media Commentary: On Friday 24 November, 2000 a barrister, appearing for The Sunday World and its crime correspondent, Paul Williams, read an apology to the High Court and acknowledged that allegations made by Williams about Martin Hyland were "absolutely false" – this is the alleged criminal who was murdered last Tuesday, 12 December. By Vincent Browne.



The newspaper paid what were said to have been "substantive damages" to Martin Hyland in compensation, arising out of articles about him published in the Sunday World of 17 November, 1996, and 16 March, 1997. The allegations included claims that Hyland had been involved in the murder of Michael Brady, his (Hyland's) brother-in-law, and was one of the emerging "drug godfathers of Dublin". In other words, Paul Williams was unable to advance proof of what he had alleged about Martin Hyland. Passing reference is made in the lengthy piece in the Sunday World of 17 December on Martin Hyland's murder on 12 December, to that 2000 libel action, dismissing the failure of the newspaper and its crime reporter to produce evidence to substantiate its claims: "He used the defamation laws to silence us".


Paul Williams goes on in the Sunday World of 17 December 2006, to make a series of further claims about Martin Hyland, again without offering any back up evidence or substantiation, this time in the knowledge he is immune from another libel action because Martin Hyland is dead.It is evident Williams received most, probably all, of the information on which he  based his article of 17 December 2006 from the very same sources he based his 1996 and 1997 articles which were acknowledged to be "absolutely false" – ie garda sources. Williams claims, without attribution, that Hyland had an involvement in the murder of the Latvian woman, Baiba Saulite, in Swords in November; that Hyland was involved in a plot to murder him (Paul Williams) in 2003 (again no attribution, no evidence,  no sources); that Hyland attacked the homes of Gardai; that he was involved with another major criminal PJ Judge; that he was responsible for the murder of his brother-in-law, Michael Brady, who had been convicted of the murder of his (Hyland's) sister – this is one of the allegations stated on his (Williams'') behalf in 2002 to have been "absolutely false".


But he goes on to make some very serious political points: that Hyland was in league with the IRA and Sinn Fein, that he was providing money to Sinn Fein for election purposes; and that Sinn Fein in its anti-drugs campaign had pointedly avoided any confrontation with him (Hyland) – the inference being because Hyland was funding Sinn Fein from his drug dealings proceeds.


If these claims are true they are of very considerable political and public significance. But Williams produces not a smidgen of substation for these claims, not even an attribution, although it is evident he got the information from Garda sources, who are not prepared to come up front with the allegations.He says "Gardai now know that Anthony Campbell (the innocent plumber murdered in the same incident) was shot just before the killers left the scene" and after Hyland was murdered.


Williams is beyond reporting what Gardai tell him, he is also to reveal what they "know". And the explanation for this unlikely claim is that had the killer(s) murdered the innocent plumber first, they would have alerted Hyland who was asleep in bed upstairs. No explanation for Anthony Campbell's failure to run for his life once he heard Hyland being shot upstairs.The Garda sources of Paul Williams will have reason to be grateful, not just for the faithful relaying of their claimed suspects concerning Martin Hyland, but also because of that commentary pieces which states: "The overreaction of the government in the wake of scandals such as Donegal, has resulted in the scales of justice being titled in favour of the thugs who are terrorising the ordinary people of Ireland. .... The politicians and the mandarins in the Department of Justice seem hell bent on taking away the powers of the police. They want to turn the Gardai into a version of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, the most ineffective police force in the world....,"Bertie Ahern in his efforts to assuage the likes of Gerry Adams has discreetly ensured that certain criminal activities of the Shinners are ignored by the police (again no substantiation)".   
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 02, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
Paul Williams back on now rehashing yesterday's dog's dinner.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Donagh on May 05, 2007, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 02, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
Paul Williams back on now rehashing yesterday's dog's dinner.

The supreme self-publicist on Turbity now. 
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
I'd say yer man who rang up Liveline isn't too popular with his fellow residents, as they now  seem to be searching the place and finding all sorts of stuff including a budgie!

A live budgie has reportedly been recovered by prison officers during a massive search for smuggled goods in maximum-security Portlaoise Prison.

Reports this morning say inmates were locked up in their cells yesterday while a huge sweep was carried out in two particular areas of the jail.

The search targeted the landing that houses gangland figures from Dublin and Limerick, as well as dissident republicans.

Eight mobile phones were found, as were three SIM cards, 150 tablets (including ecstasy), a quantity of powdered drugs, a large amount of home-made alcohol and 30 syringes.

This morning's reports say the budgie is believed to have been smuggled into the prison by a female visitor who concealed the bird internally in her body.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: full back on May 09, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 09, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
This morning's reports say the budgie is believed to have been smuggled into the prison by a female visitor who concealed the bird internally in her body.[/i]

Mmmmmm - there would be a lovely smell of that alright
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Lecale2 on May 09, 2007, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: full back on May 09, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 09, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
This morning's reports say the budgie is believed to have been smuggled into the prison by a female visitor who concealed the bird internally in her body.[/i]

Mmmmmm - there would be a lovely smell of that alright
Was it alive ? or had it been regurgitated?
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Kerry Mike on May 10, 2007, 09:36:16 AM
They have also "found" 3 flat screen TV's and an DVD player in the laterst swoop, how you could smuggle in a TV beggars belief and how can you hide such a thing in your cell.

Seems Gilligan had one of the flat TV's in his cell.

The whole prison system stinks, from the garda killers having the run of Castlerea to the gangsters, thugs and drug barons running Portlaoise and other jails.
Title: Re: Liveline meltdown
Post by: Kerry Mike on May 11, 2007, 08:23:17 AM
From the Indo:

GANGLAND boss John Gilligan has demanded the return of a plasma wide screen TV set, which was seized from his cell during a two-day search of the maximum security Portlaoise jail.

It was one of three wide screen sets and a DVD player included in a substantial haul of contraband recovered by staff during the searches.

A review of security at the jail has been widened to establish how the prisoners had possession of the goods.

Last night staff at the jail were insisting they were not complicit in the smuggling of any TV sets or other goods into the jail.

And the Irish Prison Service said it did not sanction any local arrangements which allowed prisoners to purchase items such as flat screen TVs, or to keep pets.

Inmates are allowed to keep small portable TVs in their cells but there are no arrangements officially for wide screen sets.

Gilligan, who is serving a 20-year sentence for drug trafficking, is understood to have been furious after the TV was taken out of his cell.

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I bet he was furious, I would be too if someone took my "plasma wide screen TV", thats if I had a "plasma wide screen TV". I'd say your man Daly will be watching his back after this shakedown.
Its a complete joke of a setup. The criminals are running the country.