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Title: Diesel Dippers
Post by: offtheground on April 15, 2010, 08:43:05 AM
Just heard the Customs and Excise are on the road between Derry and Bridgend. Just incase any of youse are running the cherryderv....
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on April 15, 2010, 08:56:00 AM
seen them in newry armagh road on SUNDAY around 6.30pm, they have no shame!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 09:58:41 AM
Was stopped by them last night, they are saturating the border at present.  They are more concerned with Vehicle registrations I think.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hillbilly on April 15, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
Quote from: offtheground on April 15, 2010, 08:43:05 AM
Just heard the Customs and Excise are on the road between Derry and Bridgend. Just incase any of youse are running the cherryderv....
if they were on the broder they will move to the bridges and the YMCA at drumahoe after lunch.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pebble-dasher on April 15, 2010, 02:50:06 PM
great thread, keep her updated for the lads!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 02:52:52 PM
A friend of mine has moved across the border last year but still drives his Northern car, what does this friend need to do to avoid detection?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on April 15, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
keep his northern licence and when stopped give his northern address, this will work in most cases especially when you have a northern accent.

Most times they get you because one of your neighbors reports you or picking your kids up from school
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: Cde on April 15, 2010, 03:08:43 PM
keep his northern licence and when stopped give his northern address, this will work in most cases especially when you have a northern accent.

Most times they get you because one of your neighbors reports you or picking your kids up from school
Is it ok to have an old address on your license?  He was stopped last night going back home and was able to bluff his way out of it, sorta worried about him getting stopped on the way to work in the morning.  Harder for me - sorry him - to explain where he is coming from at that time of the morning.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: JohnDenver on April 15, 2010, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBk4YTNKAiA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBk4YTNKAiA)

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
My friend was flashed at last night too by a very nice fellow driver, but as soon as he got round the corner the hoors were already there. 
My friends big problem will be if they turn up at his house.  Is there some spoofing you can do about not being a full time resident of the property if you still have an address in the north? 
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maggie on April 15, 2010, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
My friend was flashed at last night too by a very nice fellow driver, but as soon as he got round the corner the hoors were already there. 
My friends big problem will be if they turn up at his house.  Is there some spoofing you can do about not being a full time resident of the property if you still have an address in the north?

It is nice to see someone so concerned for their friends.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on April 15, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
Doogie, If your friend own his car for more than six months before he made the move south of the border, he can now get the plates changed for free.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: youbetterbelieveit on April 15, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
Doogie, If your friend own his car for more than six months before he made the move south of the border, he can now get the plates changed for free.
Thats a gimme for sure, but his car is kanckered and he would ideally like to wait until he has a better car before he changes his plates  :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

Urban myth
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on April 15, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

Urban myth

My brother was pulled over by the cops for the same thing so it is true enough, called it obstruction of justice or something like that
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on April 15, 2010, 04:52:33 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
My friend was flashed at last night too by a very nice fellow driver, but as soon as he got round the corner the hoors were already there. 
My friends big problem will be if they turn up at his house.  Is there some spoofing you can do about not being a full time resident of the property if you still have an address in the north?

They can check you tax records (they can do this at the side of the road while you wait) and this will tell them where you live and work.

If you are stopped at the side of the road you can sometimes bluff them if you have a northern licence and a northern accent, they will not check the details.

If they turn up at your house they generally have been told where to go and at that stage you are f**ked
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on April 15, 2010, 05:41:28 PM
What - are you lads supporting organised crime by using illegal fuel?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on April 15, 2010, 05:47:50 PM
you are thinking of washed diesel Hardy (which by the way is not generally detected by road blocks)

the proceeds of green and red diesel does not benefit organised crime
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on April 15, 2010, 05:49:52 PM
Ah - thanks.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on April 15, 2010, 06:49:59 PM
Used to do serious miles travelling to work and would have filled the car with either green or red for about 3 years and thankfully never got stopped. Wouldn't dream of it now though.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: Cde on April 15, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

Urban myth

My brother was pulled over by the cops for the same thing so it is true enough, called it obstruction of justice or something like that

Na, they can pull you over and give you a hard time but it's highly highly unlikely they can make a prosecution stick. FFS sake u could be flashing your lights for any number of reasons and they can't prove otherwise.

Ahem... i have a mate in the RUC.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 15, 2010, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: Cde on April 15, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

Urban myth

My brother was pulled over by the cops for the same thing so it is true enough, called it obstruction of justice or something like that

Na, they can pull you over and give you a hard time but it's highly highly unlikely they can make a prosecution stick. FFS sake u could be flashing your lights for any number of reasons and they can't prove otherwise.

Ahem... i have a mate in the RUC.
My uncle was pulled over for it a few years back. I was sure he got points. He told the peeler the driver of the other car was his mate. They asked for the mates name and address to verify the story. This is where it all fell apart...
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on April 15, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Sounds like bullshit to me. How can they prove you were flashing your lights to warn someone of impending police activity - and not just because you're an eejit. Maybe they can give you a driving citation - but otherwise it'd be a bit like a cop just arresting someone who was looking in the window of a shop because they thought they were going to rob it.

Could not stick I imagine.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on April 15, 2010, 09:24:00 PM
the roads round the border areas on a damp morning are every colour of the rainbow with the spilt oil lying all over the place

wild dangerous as it tends to be worse on the sharper bends  >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on April 15, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: Cde on April 15, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 15, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on April 15, 2010, 03:23:56 PM
Good thread alrite tho I remember a case here recently of a driver before the court for flashing his lights to warn motorists there was a road block ahead  :o

Urban myth

My brother was pulled over by the cops for the same thing so it is true enough, called it obstruction of justice or something like that

Na, they can pull you over and give you a hard time but it's highly highly unlikely they can make a prosecution stick. FFS sake u could be flashing your lights for any number of reasons and they can't prove otherwise.

Ahem... i have a mate in the RUC.

problem is , with the RUC, they dont have to prove you are guilty, you have to prove you are innocent ;-)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 15, 2010, 09:56:56 PM
I heard a story once about a boy from Maghera who was done for something similar to the flashing lights story.

He was out walking along the road and passed a speed trap. As soon as he was out of sight he starting flagging away like fcuk and behaving like an amadan. Peelers heard him and lifted him. He got a fine. I'll get his name tomorrow.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: orangeman on April 15, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
There as a programme on radio Ulster, Talkback I think it as and there were people who rang in to say they had been fined for flashing lights going away fom speed traps.


It seems it's tre enough.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J70 on April 15, 2010, 11:56:30 PM
I would share the skepticism about how they can prove you were trying to warn someone, but I have no sympathy for those who, assuming its true, get caught doing so. I certainly wouldn't warn anyone. If you don't want to get caught speeding or using farm diesel or whatever, then don't f**king speed or put farm diesel in your car! The rules are the same for all of us.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
That's a bit harsh does no harm to help others out in these difficult economic times! I'm sure many on here have been helped by someone flashing the lights
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
That's a bit harsh does no harm to help others out in these difficult economic times! I'm sure many on here have been helped by someone flashing the lights

No question, but what is the point in having a police force out on the roads then? They're out there to protect the public. If someone gets pulled over and fined for some violation, he'll think twice about doing it again. Might just save a life or prevent an injury too.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:11:53 AM
More in relation to the diesel (use the regular stuff myself) don't really see what damage is being done to the general public from lads using tractor diesel more a problem for government revenue! Wouldn't want to see somebody get a big fine if I could help them out is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:17:25 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:11:53 AM
More in relation to the diesel (use the regular stuff myself) don't really see what damage is being done to the general public from lads using tractor diesel more a problem for government revenue! Wouldn't want to see somebody get a big fine if I could help them out is all I'm saying.

Well let's hope at least that the lad you save isn't relying on the government in any way!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
They'll be treated the same by the government regardless of what fuel they use in the car! I doubt lost revenue from diesel caused the current problems!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
They'll be treated the same by the government regardless of what fuel they use in the car! I doubt lost revenue from diesel caused the current problems!

No, but its a few pounds less to help those honest people who need it, and it adds up if a blind eye is turned towards it. And I'm sure plenty of the same boys filling the car up down at the hayshed are signing on later in the week.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:41:12 AM
Valid point
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J70 on April 16, 2010, 01:06:01 AM
Quote from: hardstation on April 16, 2010, 12:54:43 AM
Quote from: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
They'll be treated the same by the government regardless of what fuel they use in the car! I doubt lost revenue from diesel caused the current problems!

No, but its a few pounds less to help those honest people who need it, and it adds up if a blind eye is turned towards it. And I'm sure plenty of the same boys filling the car up down at the hayshed are signing on later in the week.
Nah, you just wrote that, you don't actually know if it is true or not.

Maybe things have changed since I was growing up in Donegal! :)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
What is/was the saving per liter of the dodgy diesel over the regular diesel?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: JUst retired on April 16, 2010, 07:12:17 AM
Is`nt there a song about this subject? Seamus Moore I think, sang it. It`s called Flash the lights at me. Maybe ths dippers and fuzz have just heard of it and thought what a good idea to catch some hardened crimnals. They can`t catch the real ones.  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on April 16, 2010, 08:42:41 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
What is/was the saving per liter of the dodgy diesel over the regular diesel?

I think its about 40-50p per litre cheaper, i drive a 2.5 petrol and feel envious I could not stick it in at least once  :-\
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maggie on April 16, 2010, 08:51:03 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
What is/was the saving per liter of the dodgy diesel over the regular diesel?

A friend told me for 20 quid you get 16 litres of the regular stuff and 25 litres of green for the same price.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on April 16, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 15, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Sounds like bullshit to me. How can they prove you were flashing your lights to warn someone of impending police activity - and not just because you're an eejit. Maybe they can give you a driving citation - but otherwise it'd be a bit like a cop just arresting someone who was looking in the window of a shop because they thought they were going to rob it.

Could not stick I imagine.

The problem is, almost every charge sticks in the District Court (down here and I'm sure the system is similar up there). The lower court is just a fast-track processing system for almost automatic fines. The judge believes whatever the policeman says and fines/sentences as he fees like. You have an automatic right of appeal, but that costs money, so most people can't/don't bother to take it further.

That's a long-winded way of saying it's a bullshit charge that wouldn't stick in a higher court, but 90% of the time it won't get to that court.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 16, 2010, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 15, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
There as a programme on radio Ulster, Talkback I think it as and there were people who rang in to say they had been fined for flashing lights going away fom speed traps.


It seems it's tre enough.

Surely if you flash your lights at someone who is approaching a checkpoint you are moving away from it...how do they know you are flashing your headlights...do they have spotters a half mile up the road??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: AFS on April 16, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 16, 2010, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: orangeman on April 15, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
There as a programme on radio Ulster, Talkback I think it as and there were people who rang in to say they had been fined for flashing lights going away fom speed traps.


It seems it's tre enough.

Surely if you flash your lights at someone who is approaching a checkpoint you are moving away from it...how do they know you are flashing your headlights...do they have spotters a half mile up the road??

I've seen them have a couple of unmarked cars a half a mile down the road either side of the main checkpoint. Catches anyone that tries a late U turn. Sneaky f**kers.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: balladmaker on April 16, 2010, 09:34:01 AM
Know the code of the border roads and flash the lights at me  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQ1kkknU_k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQ1kkknU_k)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Bogball XV on April 16, 2010, 09:44:40 AM
what if the car you flash turns out to be a cop car!!  I'd agree with Hardy, whilst it should be impossible to make it stick the guards tend to lie when in the box in the lower courts, the judge accepts his/her evidence and that's that, unless of course you appeal wherein you'd probably get off since it's an odds on shot that the paperwork will have been fcuked up.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 12:07:17 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on April 16, 2010, 09:44:40 AM
what if the car you flash turns out to be a cop car!!  I'd agree with Hardy, whilst it should be impossible to make it stick the guards tend to lie when in the box in the lower courts, the judge accepts his/her evidence and that's that, unless of course you appeal wherein you'd probably get off since it's an odds on shot that the paperwork will have been fcuked up.

Surely the court does not have to prove intent if you are nabbed for a road  traffic violation. It is enough for the court/police that you have violated a code.
There must be some road traffic law which relates to illegal use of the high beam or a failure to dip lights and carries a small fine.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 16, 2010, 12:25:02 PM
Mickey Mable was his name.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on April 16, 2010, 12:39:55 PM
Was stopped one day on my way home from Jordanstown by the dippers. I had about a quater full tank of the jungle juice left and they proceeded to use the sqeezey bottle to try and get some out of the tank. For some reason the bottle wouldn't lift anything, after about 15 minutes of trying they let me go on. I thought I was done for that day but haven't look back since, still runnin on it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 16, 2010, 01:11:08 PM
20 odd cars were siezed in Donegal on Wednesday alone, mostly due to registration issues.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: dec on April 16, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
The governments should simply get rid of red and green diesel and tax all diesel at the same rate.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on April 16, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
the farmers would love that  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Bogball XV on April 16, 2010, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 12:07:17 PM
Quote from: Bogball XV on April 16, 2010, 09:44:40 AM
what if the car you flash turns out to be a cop car!!  I'd agree with Hardy, whilst it should be impossible to make it stick the guards tend to lie when in the box in the lower courts, the judge accepts his/her evidence and that's that, unless of course you appeal wherein you'd probably get off since it's an odds on shot that the paperwork will have been fcuked up.

Surely the court does not have to prove intent if you are nabbed for a road  traffic violation. It is enough for the court/police that you have violated a code.
There must be some road traffic law which relates to illegal use of the high beam or a failure to dip lights and carries a small fine.
but this probably wouldn't be a road traffic violation, it's more akin to aiding and abetting or something like that.  Re the use of the high beam etc, it's not illegal in any way and is actually encouraged on safety grounds (now there's something they should be pulling more people up on, those eejits who persist on driving with no lights on when visibility is below par, and they're normally in silver cars  ???).
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ballela-angel on April 16, 2010, 06:10:20 PM
Folks, great thread – As I mentioned before I live in the States now and I believe a case came up here a few years ago regarding the light-flashing and warning folks of police checks – As far as I know the individual got off as he was “exercising his free-speech rights” – Good luck with that one in the North at least
As regards the dodgy diesel – When I was a wee lad in Violet Hill (Newry) a boyo from near Rathfriland and I realized that we could make our fortune as teenagers if we could get the red dye out of agricultural diesel  and turn it clear like regular taxed diesel without changing its chemical make-up. With a little help from a chemistry teacher (since deceased) we were able to do so, but the process was extremely slow and not viable on a large scale.
Also on the subject of diesel, the first time I heard the expression “Now we’re sucking diesel” as in – “Now we’re going great guns” came from a very good friend of mine who was involved in the Civil Rights, became a well respected barrister, player for Armagh and was a native of South Armagh. I always chuckled at the connection between the expression and his home area.  Maybe there was some experience of it in his area?
;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on April 16, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
I'd guess the origin of the term suckin' diesel came from some people of ill repute and deed who ventured out after dark with a few large jerry cans and a tube, intent on relieving good folk of their honest bought fuel reserves from their cars. After a few ill fated attempts, some which ended in sucking horrible toxic petrol and spitting it out, they finally get a car with diesel in the tank. One turns around to his accomplice and says with a fuel soaked grin, 'now we're suckin' diesel'.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on April 16, 2010, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
That's a bit harsh does no harm to help others out in these difficult economic times! I'm sure many on here have been helped by someone flashing the lights

No question, but what is the point in having a police force out on the roads then? They're out there to protect the public. If someone gets pulled over and fined for some violation, he'll think twice about doing it again. Might just save a life or prevent an injury too.

Not where I'm from J70. As far as I can see they are out to gain revenue for HM government. Speed traps on straight main roads where if you are doing 72 in a 60 you are caught where as you could fly past a country primary school at 60 in a 30 all day and never get caught. Where is a fatal accident more likely? Where are the most fines more likely......

f**k them. >:(

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sheelinside on April 16, 2010, 10:54:38 PM
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The governments should simply get rid of red and green diesel and tax all diesel at the same rate.


i know in australia the price is the same, then its up to the indivual/company to claim back in tax returns any diesel used for agricultural purposes- not sure how much they can claim.
doesn't seem a bad idea
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on April 17, 2010, 12:08:32 AM
They did talk about doing that, but i doubt they'll bother. While NI is rural and theres plenty of access to agricultural diesel, its the exception throughout the UK, it'd just raise a lot of hackles for not much benefit, not to mention the extra expense of claims. Thats on top of the fact that lads would claim for every receipt they got their hands on, and it'd be difficult to prove they hadnt used it for legitimate farming purposes. Would cost more in the long run.

Main street - petrol doesnt taste much worse than diesel. In the era you seem to be harkin to, the vast majority of cars would have been petrol anyway. I've always assumed it comes from getting a hard-to-start tractor, going.... ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2010, 12:37:38 PM
Is it an urban myth that dodgy diesel harms some engines?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: theskull1 on April 17, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
No

Used to be the likes of a 305 Pug would have run on anything you gave it, but todays injection systems along with the high pressure fuel pumps are alot more fussy. If theres not enough lubrication in the fuel, the fuel pump(s) will fail early and dirt/water in the mix will trouble for the injectors

Both parts are a clean fortune.

Note (Red Diesel is not "dodgy diesel")
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: offtheground on April 19, 2010, 02:04:11 PM
69 people nabbed;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8629825.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8629825.stm)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: mournerambler on April 19, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: offtheground on April 19, 2010, 02:04:11 PM
69 people nabbed;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8629825.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8629825.stm)

This wasn't due to them using dodgy diesel OTG, they were nabbed I presume because they failed to pay duty on the vehicle they are driving by not declaring it as an import from the North, I once sold a car to a lad from Westmeath & the duty he had to pay was in access of 8000 yoyo's he told me, so you can see why it pays those who are dodging the import duty to keep their vehicles registered in the North.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on April 19, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
No

Used to be the likes of a 305 Pug would have run on anything you gave it, but todays injection systems along with the high pressure fuel pumps are alot more fussy. If theres not enough lubrication in the fuel, the fuel pump(s) will fail early and dirt/water in the mix will trouble for the injectors

Both parts are a clean fortune.

Note (Red Diesel is not "dodgy diesel")

Skull you are talking complete rubbish. The only difference in the diesel is the colour. If fuel pumps fail its simply dirty fuel or part parts.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on April 19, 2010, 03:21:15 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on April 19, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
No

Used to be the likes of a 305 Pug would have run on anything you gave it, but todays injection systems along with the high pressure fuel pumps are alot more fussy. If theres not enough lubrication in the fuel, the fuel pump(s) will fail early and dirt/water in the mix will trouble for the injectors

Both parts are a clean fortune.

Note (Red Diesel is not "dodgy diesel")

Skull you are talking complete rubbish. The only difference in the diesel is the colour. If fuel pumps fail its simply dirty fuel or part parts.

Wrong-Newer diesel models can detect whether its red diesel. Usually an error will appear-"Inject Fault"Drain the tank-put in clear and she will go no problem. Newer model cars fuel pump can supposedly detect whether its got dye!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on April 19, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on April 17, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
No

Used to be the likes of a 305 Pug would have run on anything you gave it, but todays injection systems along with the high pressure fuel pumps are alot more fussy. If theres not enough lubrication in the fuel, the fuel pump(s) will fail early and dirt/water in the mix will trouble for the injectors

Both parts are a clean fortune.

Note (Red Diesel is not "dodgy diesel")

Skull you are talking complete rubbish. The only difference in the diesel is the colour. If fuel pumps fail its simply dirty fuel or part parts.

Why don't you google before you shout your mouth off  ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 19, 2010, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 17, 2010, 12:37:38 PM
Is it an urban myth that dodgy diesel harms some engines?
I have had a long-running series of issues with the injection system in my car and the first question the mechanics asked was "where do you get your diesel"? As Skull says anything in the fuel injection system of a diesel car is expensive to fix (£100s/1000s).
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on April 19, 2010, 04:42:24 PM
Off course I forgot just because you read it on the internet it must be true.  :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: theskull1 on April 19, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
 ::)

"The only difference in the diesel is the colour. If fuel pumps fail its simply dirty fuel or part parts."

So still standing over this Hereiam? Any chance you could enlighten us all to your fountain of knowledge on the subject. Is it from the bible?  :)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: offtheground on May 19, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8691396.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/8691396.stm)

More on this story, not due to using dodgy Diesel, but the same Customs and excise crew nonetheless..
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Got the f**king car seized last night - i could blood well cry - god knows what fine we are looking it
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Got the f**king car seized last night - i could blood well cry - god knows what fine we are looking it

stay off the red diesel then!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME, THEN DONT DO THE CRIME.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
Oh go and f**k urself with your self righteous attitude
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: The Worker on May 31, 2010, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
Oh go and f**k urself with your self righteous attitude


wer u get dipped at?

and how long wer u on it for
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:55:20 AM
Dipped in Newmills - should have bloody turned the car too cos someone flashed us. Driving on it a while
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 11:58:28 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
Oh go and f**k urself with your self righteous attitude

I ran on the green diesel when i was a student for 4 years and got away with it, class stuff.  Your obviously not smart enough to get away with it though, probably should have given me a call to find out hows it done. 

Im on the clear diesel now though, i have seen the way of God and have turned over a new leaf.  I will abide the law now at all times.  You should do the same after you pay the £1000 fine & criminal record that is coming your way.

RED DIESEL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Down South on May 31, 2010, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 11:58:28 AM
Im on the clear diesel now though, i have seen the way of God and have turned over a new leaf.  I will abide the law now at all times.  You should do the same after you pay the £1000 fine & criminal record that is coming your way.

RED DIESEL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

You may be on "clear diesel" but it is more than likely not good diesel. Most of the diesel on sale in this country is laundered in one way or another. The only place you an get genuine diesel is in Sainsburys and the like. Even the branded filling stations are mixing good with bad.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Got the f**king car seized last night - i could blood well cry - god knows what fine we are looking it

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Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
U are an absolute p***k and i should know better than to even bite back at u
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
U are an absolute p***k and i should know better than to even bite back at u

Im not a p***k, im a decent ole skin, i think its funny because its not me I dont know you!!

Do you have a G spare to pay the fine?  I could give you a sub like?  Interest rate may be high on it though?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on May 31, 2010, 12:18:44 PM
fine is £500, unlucky Tyrone girl, i feel for you! diesel (clear) is too expensive! ribena is the best way!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 12:21:26 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on May 31, 2010, 12:18:44 PM
fine is £500, unlucky Tyrone girl, i feel for you! diesel (clear) is too expensive! ribena is the best way!!

Condoning illegal practises Final Whistle?  I thought better of you, thought you where one of the good ones.

Cant do the time, dont do the crime.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on May 31, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
DD12 you were at it yourself for long enough!

Quit trying to wind the girl up-she's obviously having a shit bank holiday w.end!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 31, 2010, 12:30:51 PM
I know final whistle, maybe im being too hard on the girl but thought she might have liked that  ;D

Tyrone girl, the below link may be helpful for you:

http://www.petrolprices.com/index.html?noresults=true

I hope this makes amends for my immature behaviour
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Down South on May 31, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
Dipped on a Sunday? You wouldnt get that in the south.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: mikasas on May 31, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
Nightmare Tyrone Girl! Total Nightmare! Any idea when you are going to get your car back? I was on it during my student days also, but been on the clear for a good while now, its just too risky with the number of dippers there are on the go these days! Does the fine correlate to the amount of diesel you had in the tank?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 01:18:18 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on May 31, 2010, 12:11:20 PM
U are an absolute p***k and i should know better than to even bite back at u

In fairness you should of know better than to drive on illegal fuel!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 31, 2010, 01:20:28 PM
Was in Newmills for the first (and hopefully) last time in my life yesterday. A dreary, dreary little place.

A coincidental, if neither relevant nor comforting, aside.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on May 31, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
What would take a good Gael whose not from the area to Newmills?

Maybe you're the one who dipped Tyrone Girl? ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 31, 2010, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on May 31, 2010, 12:25:52 PM
DD12 you were at it yourself for long enough!

Quit trying to wind the girl up-she's obviously having a shit bank holiday w.end!
It is difficult to feel any sympathy for someone who repeatedly and persistently breaks the law. Wasn't she caught driving with no MOT or something a while back too - and her works in a solicitors too! Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 07:35:36 PM
But she is female, surely she can just break the law as long as she bats her eyelids.  ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on May 31, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
hard luck tyrone girl, you will have to put it down to experience.  as for some of the other posters on this tread today what a pack of w.ankers
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 31, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
hard luck tyrone girl, you will have to put it down to experience.  as for some of the other posters on this tread today what a pack of w.ankers

Why because she got what she deserved, the law is there for everyone, why should she be above it?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on May 31, 2010, 08:00:49 PM
Quote from: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 31, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
hard luck tyrone girl, you will have to put it down to experience.  as for some of the other posters on this tread today what a pack of w.ankers

Why because she got what she deserved, the law is there for everyone, why should she be above it?

no, but she is in a bad enough place without a  WUM like yourself taking the piss
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 31, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
Have you posted here before under another username eggybread?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 31, 2010, 08:00:49 PM
Quote from: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 31, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
hard luck tyrone girl, you will have to put it down to experience.  as for some of the other posters on this tread today what a pack of w.ankers

Why because she got what she deserved, the law is there for everyone, why should she be above it?

no, but she is in a bad enough place without a  WUM like yourself taking the piss

She put herself in that place.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on May 31, 2010, 09:13:01 PM
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Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on May 31, 2010, 09:29:31 PM
 ::) ::)  If it were a male username would you have been so supportive.  :-*
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on May 31, 2010, 09:49:47 PM
your point is
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 31, 2010, 10:51:51 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on May 31, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
What would take a good Gael whose not from the area to Newmills?

Thanks for the good Gael reference. There was a detour between Dungannon and Cookstown.

Quote from: Gaffer on May 31, 2010, 03:39:53 PM
Maybe you're the one who dipped Tyrone Girl? ;D

Stop it.

Although the speed cops were out around the MUSA.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Il ignore most of the comments on this from all those whiter than white people who clearly love to get sniping and gloating at me.
Anyway - the car still at police station - customs are to ring today so presume will be taking them £500 in to get it back. They couldnt get it out of tank though cos wasnt enough in it so they got it from the engine. They were damm determined to get it out.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Onion Bag on June 01, 2010, 10:13:28 AM
They have to get it out TG, so they can put it in their own cars, what do you think they do with all this red diesel, all the cop cars and police landrovers are full of it, they are a right shower.

hard luck anyways
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on June 01, 2010, 10:22:23 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Il ignore most of the comments on this from all those whiter than white people who clearly love to get sniping and gloating at me.
Anyway - the car still at police station - customs are to ring today so presume will be taking them £500 in to get it back. They couldnt get it out of tank though cos wasnt enough in it so they got it from the engine. They were damm determined to get it out.

They went to your engine? I thought they ceased that practice after claims began pouring in saying that they damaged the engine somehow! Hmmm, I dont like customs, they are rude obnoxious ball bags with a silly hat on!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 10:26:26 AM
Didnt know that - yeh they couldnt get it out of the tank so took the bonnet up to go through the engine some way. It wasnt customs that dipped it though it was the cops. Thats why no car back yet cos they took it to police station and said customs will be out today.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Down South on June 01, 2010, 10:32:59 AM
Can a policeman dip your tank? I didnt think it was their concern, I thought they had to wait for a customs officer to do it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Down South on June 01, 2010, 10:39:27 AM
You`ll have to run the car on red for 6 months to recoup your loss.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: cornerback on June 01, 2010, 10:50:24 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 10:41:33 AM
Feck that be the end of the red going into it. Thanks to some generous people though the £500 will be sorted - tough lesson learned though.

Now you're just taking the piss...

You come on here complaining that you got caught and then you are annoyed that you got little sympathy & now someone is paying for it on your behalf...  :o  ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 10:57:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 10:55:30 AM
Who said anything about looking sympathy? Who said i was annoyed because i got none? I didnt ask for any. I stated what happened and said i would choose to ignore those gloating!!
Yes i did complain about getting caught!!! Did u want me to jump up and down and say it was great craic? Yes it is illegal, did i say at any time it wasnt? I knew the risks involved and i chose to take them anyway. Did i ask anyone to get down and cry for me and tell me how sorry they were? Did i heck as i know too well the attitude of the majority on here.

If my parents and bf choose to lend me £500 that i do not have to get the car back thats entirely their business. Noone is paying for anything on my behalf. They will get the money back. So get off your high horse.

Brilliant rant, simply brilliant!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 01, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 10:55:30 AM
Who said anything about looking sympathy? Who said i was annoyed because i got none? I didnt ask for any. I stated what happened and said i would choose to ignore those gloating!!
Yes i did complain about getting caught!!! Did u want me to jump up and down and say it was great craic? Yes it is illegal, did i say at any time it wasnt? I knew the risks involved and i chose to take them anyway. Did i ask anyone to get down and cry for me and tell me how sorry they were? Did i heck as i know too well the attitude of the majority on here.

If my parents and bf choose to lend me £500 that i do not have to get the car back thats entirely their business. Noone is paying for anything on my behalf. They will get the money back. So get off your high horse.

They obviously missed this then

Quote from: tyrone girl on May 23, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Couldnt make the match today - did a wee random bet about ten to 4 when waiting on match to start  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on June 01, 2010, 11:15:05 AM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
As brilliant as your hilarious rant yesterday!!!! Such a mature chap you are. An abolute w**ker  but mature all the same. Give yourself a good pat on your back and run along now and try winding up someone else.

Stipulating you broke the law and got what you deserved is hardly winding, more a statement of fact.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on June 01, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
how much do you save per tank when you use the dodgy stuff compared to the right stuff? does it give you the same mileage too?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Down South on June 01, 2010, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 01, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
how much do you save per tank when you use the dodgy stuff compared to the right stuff? does it give you the same mileage too?

Red diesel is roughly half price. Same mileage.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on June 01, 2010, 12:15:12 PM
Quote from: Down South on June 01, 2010, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on June 01, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
how much do you save per tank when you use the dodgy stuff compared to the right stuff? does it give you the same mileage too?

Red diesel is roughly half price. Same mileage.

Jaysus, tempting when its there on the forecourt in the pump next to the normal diesel one eh?

i'd say once you try it, it would be hard to go back to the regular stuff, its like all bad habits
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 12:17:12 PM
Sammy less of that- you will have all these salt of the earth law abiding citizens on your back for talking such talk.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Mario on June 01, 2010, 01:27:52 PM
If the price of ordinary diesel is £1.25 per litre, the price of red is £0.59, and your car does 60 mpg, you would save the £500 fine after 10,000 miles of driving
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on June 01, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
thats alot of sweaty miles worrying about blue lights around the corner though  :-\
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
As brilliant as your hilarious rant yesterday!!!! Such a mature chap you are. An abolute w**ker  but mature all the same. Give yourself a good pat on your back and run along now and try winding up someone else.

I dont know what the highlighted word in bold means, can you clarify?  Also, why have you two spaces between the words 'w**ker' & 'but'?

Why are you getting so uptight about this?  I mean, you knew you where breaking the law, you knew the consequences if caught yet you continued to drive on illegal fuel!  You where caught out and im glad, great to see criminals getting their just desserts, why should I pay the higher prices for clear diesel when you can pay half the cost and think you can get away with it?  Shame on you, gambling, illegal fuel, think someone commented your had insurance issues a while back?? Not sure, anyway, Tyrone girl, you would need to take a long hard look in the mirror and just question the person staring back at you.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: saffron sam2 on June 01, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
The problem with such a reply is that you need almost flawless spelling and grammar yourself.

Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
As brilliant as your hilarious rant yesterday!!!! Such a mature chap you are. An abolute w**ker  but mature all the same. Give yourself a good pat on your back and run along now and try winding up someone else.

I dont know what the highlighted word in bold means, can you clarify?  Also, why have to two spaces between the words 'w**ker' & 'but'?

Why are you getting so uptight about this?  I mean, you knew you where breaking the law, you knew the consequences if caught yet you continued to drive on illegal fuel!  You where caught out and im glad, great to see criminals getting their just desserts, why should I pay the higher prices for clear diesel when you can pay half the cost and think you can get away with it?  Shame on you, gambling, illegal fuel, think someone commented your had insurance issues a while back?? Not sure, anyway, Tyrone girl, you would need to take a long hard look in the mirror and just question the person staring back at you.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: hairyhog on June 01, 2010, 02:29:36 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 01, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
The problem with such a reply is that you need almost flawless spelling and grammar yourself.

Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
As brilliant as your hilarious rant yesterday!!!! Such a mature chap you are. An abolute w**ker  but mature all the same. Give yourself a good pat on your back and run along now and try winding up someone else.

I dont know what the highlighted word in bold means, can you clarify?  Also, why have to two spaces between the words 'w**ker' & 'but'?

Why are you getting so uptight about this?  I mean, you knew you where breaking the law, you knew the consequences if caught yet you continued to drive on illegal fuel!  You where caught out and im glad, great to see criminals getting their just desserts, why should I pay the higher prices for clear diesel when you can pay half the cost and think you can get away with it?  Shame on you, gambling, illegal fuel, think someone commented your had insurance issues a while back?? Not sure, anyway, Tyrone girl, you would need to take a long hard look in the mirror and just question the person staring back at you.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 01, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on June 01, 2010, 02:25:17 PM
The problem with such a reply is that you need almost flawless spelling and grammar yourself.

Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 11:00:52 AM
As brilliant as your hilarious rant yesterday!!!! Such a mature chap you are. An abolute w**ker  but mature all the same. Give yourself a good pat on your back and run along now and try winding up someone else.

I dont know what the highlighted word in bold means, can you clarify?  Also, why have to two spaces between the words 'w**ker' & 'but'?

Why are you getting so uptight about this?  I mean, you knew you where breaking the law, you knew the consequences if caught yet you continued to drive on illegal fuel!  You where caught out and im glad, great to see criminals getting their just desserts, why should I pay the higher prices for clear diesel when you can pay half the cost and think you can get away with it?  Shame on you, gambling, illegal fuel, think someone commented your had insurance issues a while back?? Not sure, anyway, Tyrone girl, you would need to take a long hard look in the mirror and just question the person staring back at you.

Beware the Grammar Police(an the Grammar Police Ombudsman ;))

Tough luck TG, lesson learned I'm sure and thankfully the rest of those who don't break the law can stand at their pulpit and criticise.  It is stupid though to take such a risk.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on June 01, 2010, 03:04:48 PM
I have this friend who is on green for over 8 years now. Lost count of the £000s of pounds saved and is not in the slightest worried about getting caught. He has driven through check points and dippers several times and always gets waved on through. He says f**k them and f**k anyone who does not like it ;D

He would encourage it as much as possible. He says the secret is not to put it in any commercial vehicles or older cars as they are the ones who will get dipped.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 04:11:47 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 02:41:26 PM
Tough lesson surely bcb but sure thats life isnt it. Could be worse things happen.
Well for all those surely who dont break the law to stand and criticise - but sure they all trying to be big men seeing who can criticise and gloat the most.

Glad im in better form today that i can laugh at the irony of someone asking me why im getting uptight about being caught - when such people are behaving more uptightly.
As for the post on grammar - well saffron sam couldnt have said it better.

Dirty Dozen you remind me of one of them bullies i used to be scared off at school when i was wee - one of them boyos spouting shyte just for the sake of it - and looking all round them to see were their friends watching to see how big a man they were. Pathetic.

:D :D :D

Get out more, im a real big man alright on the gaaboard  :D Not a bully, just love with the trout bites, people who get wound up so easily deserve to be wound up, its the only way they will learn  ;D

Also,your taking the gaaboard way too serious and if you cant see that im clearly taking the hand out of you then you need to unplug for a while .  I mean, i dont even know you so really i couldnt give a f**k if you piss in your diesel tank to save money on fuel to be perfectly honest.  Loving the personal abuse your dishing my way also, i might have to report to moderators  :D

Red Diesel out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Denn Forever on June 01, 2010, 04:13:44 PM
Have you looked at the banner advertisement when you click on this topic?

For you TG ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 01, 2010, 04:13:44 PM
Have you looked at the banner advertisement when you click on this topic?

For you TG ;D

LOL, outstanding.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
God i wont be able go lift my car cos my sides are split from the laughter - hilarious  ::) ::)

Why, what are you laughing at? 

I wouldnt be laughing if i where you like, having to go get your own car back and £500 notes to hand over in the process.  Certainly not a laughing matter but its good that you can see the funny side.....me, i couldnt if that happened to me but then again, i abide the law  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ziggysego on June 01, 2010, 04:42:12 PM
tyrone girl, you're best not to respond to them. You're just giving them more oxygen.

As for the banner at the top of this page, well it was funny :)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
Eh - if ya go into any topic theres always a banner relating to that on top of page if ya look
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ziggysego on June 01, 2010, 04:45:03 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
Eh - if ya go into any topic theres always a banner relating to that on top of page if ya look

It wasn't a dig at you.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on June 01, 2010, 04:49:16 PM
Quit crying like a load of f**king geeky middle aged wankers and just stick to the point......


...where are your known diesel dipping hotspots.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ziggysego on June 01, 2010, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on June 01, 2010, 04:49:16 PM
Quit crying like a load of f**king geeky middle aged w**kers and just stick to the point......


...where are your known diesel dipping hotspots.

Your mama!

Just kiddin' saaan  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on June 01, 2010, 05:10:26 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on June 01, 2010, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on June 01, 2010, 04:49:16 PM
Quit crying like a load of f**king geeky middle aged w**kers and just stick to the point......


...where are your known diesel dipping hotspots.

Your mama!

Just kiddin' saaan  ;D

:D ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
God i wont be able go lift my car cos my sides are split from the laughter - hilarious  ::) ::)

Why, what are you laughing at? 

I wouldnt be laughing if i where you like, having to go get your own car back and £500 notes to hand over in the process.  Certainly not a laughing matter but its good that you can see the funny side.....me, i couldnt if that happened to me but then again, i abide the law  ;D
Will you stop filing threads with your bullshit.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on June 01, 2010, 08:22:58 PM
Pints telling someone to stop filling treads with bullshit seems ironic
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2010, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: gerry on June 01, 2010, 08:22:58 PM
Pints telling someone to stop filling treads with bullshit seems ironic
why
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on June 01, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
More questions
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2010, 08:29:50 PM
It's not my fault you don't explain yourself very clearly
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: JUst retired on June 02, 2010, 06:32:20 AM
TG when you go to pick up your car,make sure you bring a can of good diesil with you. ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Actually know a family from round me part that got done on something similar to the above. They went to pick up the car that had been impounded and when they arrived the car they were in was dipped also. Of course they were on the red in it too and ended up having both cars impounded and two fines. Just thought I'd throw that in there you know just incase.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 02, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 01, 2010, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on June 01, 2010, 04:18:27 PM
God i wont be able go lift my car cos my sides are split from the laughter - hilarious  ::) ::)

Why, what are you laughing at? 

I wouldnt be laughing if i where you like, having to go get your own car back and £500 notes to hand over in the process.  Certainly not a laughing matter but its good that you can see the funny side.....me, i couldnt if that happened to me but then again, i abide the law  ;D
Will you stop filing threads with your bullshit.

Who are you talking to here?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on June 02, 2010, 09:57:47 AM
More than likely merely a rhetorical question to himself.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 02, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Actually know a family from round me part that got done on something similar to the above. They went to pick up the car that had been impounded and when they arrived the car they were in was dipped also. Of course they were on the red in it too and ended up having both cars impounded and two fines. Just thought I'd throw that in there you know just incase.

That made me laugh.  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 02, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 02, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Actually know a family from round me part that got done on something similar to the above. They went to pick up the car that had been impounded and when they arrived the car they were in was dipped also. Of course they were on the red in it too and ended up having both cars impounded and two fines. Just thought I'd throw that in there you know just incase.

That made me laugh.  ;D

Heard a similar "story" where the farmers wife gets dipped and has red, she says I have the money at home, so the Customs take her there and the husband's car is there and they dip her and she is full of red, and then the son pulls in in a work van full of red!  Could be true, could be urban legend, either way funny as fcuk ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 02, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 02, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 02, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Actually know a family from round me part that got done on something similar to the above. They went to pick up the car that had been impounded and when they arrived the car they were in was dipped also. Of course they were on the red in it too and ended up having both cars impounded and two fines. Just thought I'd throw that in there you know just incase.

That made me laugh.  ;D

Heard a similar "story" where the farmers wife gets dipped and has red, she says I have the money at home, so the Customs take her there and the husband's car is there and they dip her and she is full of red, and then the son pulls in in a work van full of red!  Could be true, could be urban legend, either way funny as fcuk ;D

How dare you boys laugh at other people's 'misfortunes' for using illegal diesel and getting caught.  Shame on you's, wouldnt catch me at that craic  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 02, 2010, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: mikasas on June 02, 2010, 09:10:04 AM
Actually know a family from round me part that got done on something similar to the above. They went to pick up the car that had been impounded and when they arrived the car they were in was dipped also. Of course they were on the red in it too and ended up having both cars impounded and two fines. Just thought I'd throw that in there you know just incase.

That made me laugh.  ;D
Worst thing is its actually true.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on June 04, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Dippers all over Armagh today, even dipping at Irish Street now!!! WTF??
(Not that it will affect me anyway  ;))
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on June 04, 2010, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 04, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Dippers all over Armagh today, even dipping at Irish Street now!!! WTF??
(Not that it will affect me anyway  ;))

dipping in the city next...this must be a new tactic !!
bad enough they're on the main arterial routes in/out of the city the odd time, but to actually start dipping in city streets now is something new altogether

(not that it'll effect me either!)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on June 04, 2010, 03:41:39 PM
Aye because your yokes a petrol Abble...  :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: eggy bread on June 04, 2010, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 04, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Dippers all over Armagh today, even dipping at Irish Street now!!! WTF??
(Not that it will affect me anyway  ;))

Saw them, least they ticketed all the joe maxies who think they can park where ever the f**k they want!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on June 04, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
Whats the shop there on the corner?  Emersons is it called maybe?  Always a nightmare when there is lorries parked round there, real bastid of a street altogether.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on June 04, 2010, 04:19:38 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on June 04, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
Whats the shop there on the corner?  Emersons is it called maybe?  Always a nightmare when there is lorries parked round there, real bastid of a street altogether.

thats TG Hawthorne, black pillar right in front of a main door  ??? thats Armagh for ya
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on June 04, 2010, 04:23:26 PM
In portadown last night at around 11pm.

They are getting unpredictable!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on June 21, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Seen them settin up a checkpoint with fellas in high vis jackets on the M12 just as you go onto the motorway from portadown/craigavon this morning......Was this the dippers? There was a sign before it saying...'Checkpoint Ahead'....there was no sign of the Constabulary though
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2010, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on June 21, 2010, 12:34:11 PM
Seen them settin up a checkpoint with fellas in high vis jackets on the M12 just as you go onto the motorway from portadown/craigavon this morning......Was this the dippers? There was a sign before it saying...'Checkpoint Ahead'....there was no sign of the Constabulary though
Dippers or tax? Tax camera has been flat out all week round Armagh. Lorry and a van pulled in on Northway heading into Portadown there. No polis about.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on June 21, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
The sign said D.O.E checkpoint ahead?   

Maybe I read it wrong.

There was definitely 4 men in high vis jackets and a silver volkswagen passet estate with the red and yellow chevrons on the back of it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on June 21, 2010, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on June 21, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
The sign said D.O.E checkpoint ahead?   

Maybe I read it wrong.

There was definitely 4 men in high vis jackets and a silver volkswagen passet estate with the red and yellow chevrons on the back of it.

Sounds like dippers. All the kit for testing Fuel is in the estate.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Overthebar! on June 21, 2010, 04:12:35 PM
seen them just before the larne roundabout in ballymeana on the road from larne last thursday
they are out more and more with the good weather....
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on July 08, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
Dippers on Kennedy Way yesterday and then Malone Road in the evening...Flash the lights at me
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on July 30, 2010, 12:37:06 PM
Spotted in the Clogher area of West / South Tyrone.

Flash your lights for on coming traffic.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on August 05, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
At stonebridge roundabout in Armagh today
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 05, 2010, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on August 05, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
At stonebridge roundabout in Armagh today

f**k lucky me went 4 bite there a few weeks back!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on August 17, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Back here again this morning - stonebridge roundabout in Armagh today
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2010, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 17, 2010, 08:45:14 AM
Back here again this morning - stonebridge roundabout in Armagh today
Beat me to it. Some squad of them out!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: screenmachine on October 14, 2010, 10:21:59 AM
Diesel dippers on Dargan Road just off the Fortwilliam Roundabout.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: The Worker on October 14, 2010, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 05, 2010, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on August 05, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
At stonebridge roundabout in Armagh today

f**k lucky me went 4 bite there a few weeks back!

who was the lucky female charles
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Feckitt on October 15, 2010, 10:30:46 AM
If ye don't want to get dipped stay off the old newry bypass between the fiveways roundabout and the mourne country roundabout.

If the things not right, be it day or night, then flash the lights at me.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: cookstownblue on October 15, 2010, 11:25:26 AM
They will be on Cookstown to Dungannon road this afternoon.

Consider this a heads up.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on October 16, 2010, 10:02:13 PM
After getting dipped in armagh town centre at 10pm on a sat night. c***ts
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on October 16, 2010, 10:27:39 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on October 16, 2010, 10:02:13 PM
After getting dipped in armagh town centre at 10pm on a sat night. c***ts

where were they ?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on October 16, 2010, 11:28:38 PM
outside the library with 4 ruc/psni officiers carrying rifles.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on October 16, 2010, 11:31:44 PM

was dipped there too. all clear. if it had been earlier in the week...
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on October 16, 2010, 11:40:57 PM
it usually takes a few washes so if you were using red earlier in the week it should have come a little bit rasperry.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on October 16, 2010, 11:59:11 PM

green as it happens and always let her down to the fumes and fill her to the gills with white
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: rolloutking on October 17, 2010, 12:09:48 AM
lucky enough then. there could be a shortage of taxis in town 2nite from what i seen
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on October 18, 2010, 12:04:46 PM
you in the clear roloutking? or should that be on the clear  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pearses on October 21, 2010, 10:30:30 AM
Dippers setting up at Nutts Corner this morning at the craigavon exit.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Onion Bag on October 21, 2010, 11:27:20 AM
Seen them yesterday evening at Loughbrickland on the A1 Belfast - Newry rd had 4-5 yokes pulled in

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on October 25, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
Heard yesterday that there's a crowd of custom ones booked into the Armagh hotel for the next 3weeks, so expect the late night checks over the weekend to continue  >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on November 08, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
Any truth in the rumour that the dippers were in the Ballygawley area this afternoon?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 10, 2010, 12:17:38 AM
Quote from: BenDover on October 25, 2010, 09:27:01 AM
Heard yesterday that there's a crowd of custom ones booked into the Armagh hotel for the next 3weeks, so expect the late night checks over the weekend to continue  >:(
Two laundering plants in the city and Culloville found. I'd say thats all part of the swoop.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: awideisneverasgood on November 10, 2010, 04:49:06 PM
Just heard they were in Coalisland.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on November 10, 2010, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: awideisneverasgood on November 10, 2010, 04:49:06 PM
Just heard they were in Coalisland.

They're trying to Catch Tyrone Girl...lol
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on November 10, 2010, 05:03:11 PM
Yep they were dipping on the annagher road all morning apparently
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 10, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
As long as they steer clear of Lurgan...I can't be doing with the delays
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on November 10, 2010, 05:13:54 PM
They didnt dip me today. Dont tink they liked the look of me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 10, 2010, 05:20:12 PM
are you back on the red? lol
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on November 10, 2010, 05:32:27 PM
TG you watch that Fitzy lad...he'd dip ya alright ;) :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 10, 2010, 05:38:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 10, 2010, 05:32:27 PM
TG you watch that Fitzy lad...he'd dip ya alright ;) :D
pot kettle black saan!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on November 12, 2010, 03:16:46 PM
Moy dungannon straight now.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: shollywood87 on November 27, 2010, 05:42:51 PM
dipping at sprucefield and jordanstown during the week.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: an buck mór on November 27, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 16, 2010, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: maximus on April 16, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
They'll be treated the same by the government regardless of what fuel they use in the car! I doubt lost revenue from diesel caused the current problems!

No, but its a few pounds less to help those honest people who need it, and it adds up if a blind eye is turned towards it. And I'm sure plenty of the same boys filling the car up down at the hayshed are signing on later in the week.

I'm surprised your able to type way up there on your horse.  Whats it like being a middle class hero?  You strike me as being the type of boy would have a fantastic career as a traffic warden.  You should try it some time, put your vindictiveness to good work
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: an buck mór on November 27, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Here's some of the hotspots round the area I be in

Tamnaghmore Roundabout, any exit, most regularly outside the Cohannon
Between Edendork and Coalisland
At the Lifeboat mission at the Redford, (Between the moy and Armagh)
Beside Granville Mart (stopped since the new road opened)
Any motorway roundabout with a layby

They're taking people off the motorway to dip them.  They were at the Birches roundabout in Portadown the other day, had spotters at the Tamnamore roundabout giving the dippers up the road an idea of who to check.

When you hear about them raiding an area, they're going to be there a while.  It means they've caught someone who's happy enough to tout their way out of a fine. 

Consider this people, how many times on this board have they been EAST of the Bann?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on December 22, 2010, 01:40:27 PM
All seems quiet these days, difficult for them to operate in this cold weather! My diesel actually froze this morning, car going badly!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: AbbeySider on December 22, 2010, 02:26:31 PM
I hope your all caught  :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on December 22, 2010, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: an buck mór on November 27, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Here's some of the hotspots round the area I be in

Tamnaghmore Roundabout, any exit, most regularly outside the Cohannon
Between Edendork and Coalisland
At the Lifeboat mission at the Redford, (Between the moy and Armagh)
Beside Granville Mart (stopped since the new road opened)
Any motorway roundabout with a layby

They're taking people off the motorway to dip them.  They were at the Birches roundabout in Portadown the other day, had spotters at the Tamnamore roundabout giving the dippers up the road an idea of who to check.

When you hear about them raiding an area, they're going to be there a while.  It means they've caught someone who's happy enough to tout their way out of a fine. 

Consider this people, how many times on this board have they been EAST of the Bann?

What about Newmills thats where the f**kers caught me
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 22, 2010, 05:45:45 PM
Not a diesel dippers story but be careful in the snowy weather.  Girl that Mrs BC works with sent an e mail around the other day about her mother getting stopped in Cookstown.  She had snow on her roof and they fined her £60 and gave her 3 points.  Be careful to clear the snow off your car.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BENTY2010 on January 20, 2011, 12:15:02 PM
dippin between armagh and markethill today on armagh road. rathfriland road newry earlier in the week.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: giveherlong on January 25, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
In Gortin today apparently. Wouldn't twitter be the job for keeping up to date on locations?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on January 25, 2011, 05:57:22 PM
Dipping on the Moy road earlier... Its great getting stopped with a tank full of clear!! The CNUTS!!  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: under the bar on January 25, 2011, 10:04:07 PM
Has anyone here ever come up with an excuse / course of action that managed to fox them?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Mario on January 25, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
They are mad for dipping on the road I go home from Dublin, Newry to Armagh to Dungannon to Cookstown. I've been stopped (not dipped) by police in Dungannon or Cookstown 3 times in the last 5 weeks on a sunday night. They must like their sunday overtime
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
Quote from: under the bar on January 25, 2011, 10:04:07 PM
Has anyone here ever come up with an excuse / course of action that managed to fox them?

Put a big vertical exhaust pipe out through the roof of your car and paint "John Deere" along the two sides of it. Hitch a 4-sod plough to the back if it for extra effect.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Has the ever been or is there any precedence for a legal objection to letting them have access to the fuel tank?

Is it possible to simply refuse to open the fuel cap? Do they need permission to dip?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Has the ever been or is there any precedence for a legal objection to letting them have access to the fuel tank?

Is it possible to simply refuse to open the fuel cap? Do they need permission to dip?

If the laws are anything like they are down here, the customs have frightening powers - way beyond those of the police. For one thing, the excise laws put the burden of proof on the suspect, not the Customs. So, for instance, instead of having to prove that your goods are contraband, they can seize them and it's up to YOU to prove they're not. So I'd guess if you refused to allow them to dip you'd be walking home and your wagon would be off to the pound.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 11:11:25 AM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Has the ever been or is there any precedence for a legal objection to letting them have access to the fuel tank?

Is it possible to simply refuse to open the fuel cap? Do they need permission to dip?

If the laws are anything like they are down here, the customs have frightening powers - way beyond those of the police. For one thing, the excise laws put the burden of proof on the suspect, not the Customs. So, for instance, instead of having to prove that your goods are contraband, they can seize them and it's up to YOU to prove they're not. So I'd guess if you refused to allow them to dip you'd be walking home and your wagon would be off to the pound.

so is there a rule or not?
Its the fuel that is potentially contraband, not the vehicle......
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 11:12:50 AM
Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 11:11:25 AM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Rouge_Diablo on January 26, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Has the ever been or is there any precedence for a legal objection to letting them have access to the fuel tank?

Is it possible to simply refuse to open the fuel cap? Do they need permission to dip?

If the laws are anything like they are down here, the customs have frightening powers - way beyond those of the police. For one thing, the excise laws put the burden of proof on the suspect, not the Customs. So, for instance, instead of having to prove that your goods are contraband, they can seize them and it's up to YOU to prove they're not. So I'd guess if you refused to allow them to dip you'd be walking home and your wagon would be off to the pound.

so is there a rule or not?
Its the fuel that is potentially contraband, not the vehicle......

I don't think they're too fussy about that. I'm fairly sure (down here) that if you're carrying contraband goods, they can confiscate vehicle, goods, the lot.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on January 26, 2011, 05:49:48 PM
Cathedral Road, just by the Costcutter shop...
They're edging closer to FLH!!  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 26, 2011, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 26, 2011, 05:49:48 PM
Cathedral Road, just by the Costcutter shop...
They're edging closer to FLH!!  ;)

is that near athletic grounds..
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on January 26, 2011, 06:06:38 PM
no, coming from (lurgan) you'll not be there there!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 26, 2011, 06:18:20 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 26, 2011, 06:06:38 PM
no, coming from (lurgan) you'll not be there there!!

Derrymacash ;), cheers for the heads up!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 26, 2011, 06:35:48 PM
How does it work? Once you've put red in her does that mean theres traces of it there permenantly? Say you filled half red half clean would that be any use? Bound to be a way to beat the system..
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on January 26, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
Heard that half green half clear works.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: mournerambler on January 26, 2011, 06:53:33 PM
Once you put red in the tank it can take several fills of white ran through the engine to ensure ther's no trace of red in the tank, imo it takes very little red in the tank to contaminate white diesel, the 'diesel distillers' around the country 'wash' the diesel with various chemicals to remove the red dye but this isn't good for your engine over a long period of time.
The one bonus with the red is that at least you can be sure it hasn't been tampered with & as many people will say it's the best diesel you will get.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 26, 2011, 11:31:42 PM
Something on the slipway from the M1 onto the Northway outside P'down this evening, anyone know was it dippers? The tanker in front of us did a swift U-turn, (followed by us  :D )
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 26, 2011, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: Hardy on January 26, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
Quote from: under the bar on January 25, 2011, 10:04:07 PM
Has anyone here ever come up with an excuse / course of action that managed to fox them?

Put a big vertical exhaust pipe out through the roof of your car and paint "John Deere" along the two sides of it. Hitch a 4-sod plough to the back if it for extra effect.

:D :D Lmao
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: JUst retired on January 27, 2011, 07:03:12 AM
Not the dippers this time Fitz. it was a bad accident involving a big lorry and a few cars. Nasty looking do.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on January 27, 2011, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: Candyman on January 26, 2011, 05:49:48 PM
Cathedral Road, just by the Costcutter shop...
They're edging closer to FLH!!  ;)
Heard last night that a tanker was called and the Costcutter was sucked dry
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 27, 2011, 09:10:59 AM
Heard they were possibly stopping yesterday on the drum road (A505) between Cookstown & Omagh. I steered clear anyway horse! Any confirmation of this?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 30, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
Customs from england and scotland takin up lodgings in the glenavon (cookstown) for a wipe out on red diesel from tonight spread the word!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on January 31, 2011, 08:02:07 AM
Also heard they're saddling up in the birches in Omagh either this week or next. You better get the pump warmed up to empty the tank Tyrone Girl! ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: David McKeown on January 31, 2011, 09:04:09 AM
Can anyone tell me is the offence "using" red diesel or is the offence having red diesel somewhere other than in an agricultural vehicle. Heard of a fella last week who was caught at a pump putting Red Diesel into a fake tank. Customs came straight over before he had finished and confiscated the motor. Wondering if they may have been premature
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on January 31, 2011, 09:19:29 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 31, 2011, 08:02:07 AM
Also heard they're saddling up in the birches in Omagh either this week or next. You better get the pump warmed up to empty the tank Tyrone Girl! ;)

They can dip me any time they like, its that clear ya can see ur reflection in it  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on January 31, 2011, 09:37:33 AM
Between the moy and Dungannon this morning.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on January 31, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
QuoteThey can dip me any time they like, its that clear ya can see ur reflection in it 

No doubt these Scottish gentlemen would love to dip you, to see the reflect radiance of your comely countenance.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2011, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 31, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
QuoteThey can dip me any time they like, its that clear ya can see ur reflection in it 

No doubt these Scottish gentlemen would love to dip you, to see the reflect radiance of your comely countenance.

That tank has been dipped that many times the nozzle's that go into the tank are not sufficent anymore ;) :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on January 31, 2011, 11:07:39 AM
You set yourself up for a fall there TG :)

BTW when these bucko's are stopping do they dip all in sight or just pick out the dodgy looking yokes?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 11:16:53 AM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on January 30, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
Customs from england and scotland takin up lodgings in the glenavon (cookstown) for a wipe out on red diesel from tonight spread the word!

Do not panic people!

Word has it they all got blocked in Sense last night & done a bit of dipping of their own!

Too hungover to catch anyone today!

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 31, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
You'll be doing well to avoid them today there everywhere:

Moneymore
Pipers Cave
Portadown
Birches Roundabout
Dungannon town centre (eg the squaza)
Stewartstown

:O:O
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: clarshack on January 31, 2011, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on January 31, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
You'll be doing well to avoid them today there everywhere:

Moneymore
Pipers Cave
Portadown
Birches Roundabout
Dungannon town centre (eg the squaza)
Stewartstown

:O:O

they're not in dungannon square now
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on January 31, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on January 31, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
You'll be doing well to avoid them today there everywhere:

Moneymore
Pipers Cave
Portadown
Birches Roundabout
Dungannon town centre (eg the squaza)
Stewartstown

:O:O

What in under feck kind of word is that
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on January 31, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 31, 2011, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 31, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
QuoteThey can dip me any time they like, its that clear ya can see ur reflection in it 

No doubt these Scottish gentlemen would love to dip you, to see the reflect radiance of your comely countenance.

That tank has been dipped that many times the nozzle's that go into the tank are not sufficent anymore ;) :D

All dependant on the quality of the nozzle.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 31, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 31, 2011, 11:07:39 AM
You set yourself up for a fall there TG :)

BTW when these bucko's are stopping do they dip all in sight or just pick out the dodgy looking yokes?
I don't believe they dip petrol cars for red diesel. Diesel vehicles seem to be selected at random.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2011, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on January 31, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 31, 2011, 10:45:24 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 31, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
QuoteThey can dip me any time they like, its that clear ya can see ur reflection in it 

No doubt these Scottish gentlemen would love to dip you, to see the reflect radiance of your comely countenance.

That tank has been dipped that many times the nozzle's that go into the tank are not sufficent anymore ;) :D

All dependant on the quality of the nozzle.

Elephant Trunk is the expression you're looking there TG, anything less is no good
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: take_yer_points on January 31, 2011, 04:25:02 PM
There's cars pulled over on Corporation Street in Belfast. Not sure if they're dipping though- I think they might be checking the tax on the cars
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: AbbeySider on January 31, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
I hope ye all get caught  :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Banana Man on January 31, 2011, 04:59:57 PM
bought a drop of red for the tractor on saturday, 75p a litre, wtf?! it's going through the roof too
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 31, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on January 31, 2011, 04:59:57 PM
bought a drop of red for the tractor on saturday, 75p a litre, wtf?! it's going through the roof too


Aye for the 'tractor' lol
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BENTY2010 on February 01, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
loughbrickland on the A1 this morning/afternoon.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Banana Man on February 01, 2011, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: BENTY2010 on February 01, 2011, 11:33:00 AM
loughbrickland on the A1 this morning/afternoon.

were they dipping?? i just thought it was the weighbridge???
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on February 01, 2011, 01:25:58 PM
If you let the wagon run completely out of fuel then put in the clear stuff would you get away when dipped shortly after? A friend wants to know  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 01, 2011, 02:24:33 PM
Carrickmore
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 01, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Quoteloughbrickland on the A1 this morning/afternoon.

This is good news for the Irish exchequer, as white diesel is somewhat cheaper in the South quite a few of these folks in outlying areas will make their way to Omeath, Emyvale, Pettigo, Lifford etc to fill up with the white stuff when they have emptied their tanks.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on February 01, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 01, 2011, 02:24:33 PM
Carrickmore

Kildress - But they might be away from there now considering there in Carmen Hi!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Nally Stand on February 01, 2011, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on February 01, 2011, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 01, 2011, 02:24:33 PM
Carrickmore

Kildress - But they might be away from there now considering there in Carmen Hi!!!

Me thinks they will be busy!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on February 01, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
Where abouts in Carrickmore? Town centre?

My 'friend' was due to travel through there this evening, but may have to have a change of plan..
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 01, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
Some craic last week in the company of a certain gaaboard poster, panic stations en-route to Armagh city. Ended up taking the scene route to Athletic Grounds!  :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 01, 2011, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: maco on February 01, 2011, 03:39:31 PM
Where abouts in Carrickmore? Town centre?

My 'friend' was due to travel through there this evening, but may have to have a change of plan..

They were outside the Dean secondary school on the Pomeroy side of the town. I'd say they'll e covering everywhere around the town at some stage today.

Never seen the roads as quiet, no one had left their houses since Sunday!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on February 01, 2011, 04:01:18 PM
Alternative route required then me thinks. Or else work late and don't go home until dark!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 01, 2011, 04:15:09 PM
Theyre not there at the minute. Don't know where they've disappeared to!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: comethekingdom on February 01, 2011, 09:38:45 PM
Jaysus lads! Is there an honest wan among ye up there in the occupied six ???
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Does anybody know if you get all the red out of the tank and put clear in is that all you need to do to get rid of any trace of red?? also does your name be in the paper for being caught?! &do you have to pay the fine on the spot? Is it still £500?? would apprecicate the knowledge of some of you more experienced ribena users ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on February 02, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Does anybody know if you get all the red out of the tank and put clear in is that all you need to do to get rid of any trace of red?? also does your name be in the paper for being caught?! &do you have to pay the fine on the spot? Is it still £500?? would apprecicate the knowledge of some of you more experienced ribena users ;)
:D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on February 02, 2011, 06:55:26 PM
Quote from: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Does anybody know if you get all the red out of the tank and put clear in is that all you need to do to get rid of any trace of red?? also does your name be in the paper for being caught?! &do you have to pay the fine on the spot? Is it still £500?? would apprecicate the knowledge of some of you more experienced ribena users ;)

Ha Ha the shame of having your name splashed across the 'Before the Courts' section of the Hearld is always a good deterent. A very respectable mate of mine got named and shamed for a drunken piss on main street last year. He got some ribbing.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sure,hit it yourself Ref! on February 02, 2011, 06:57:24 PM
Quote from: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Does anybody know if you get all the red out of the tank and put clear in is that all you need to do to get rid of any trace of red?? also does your name be in the paper for being caught?! &do you have to pay the fine on the spot? Is it still £500?? would apprecicate the knowledge of some of you more experienced ribena users ;)

Doesn't matter, if you're caught you'll be the talk of the country anyway! ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 02, 2011, 07:01:43 PM
Does anyone in Tyrone run on white diesel
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on February 02, 2011, 07:02:13 PM
Maybe 1 or 2 of the clergy.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
:D:D:D:D
Dougal ask that question next week&the answer will be yes!!
nobody gona answer my questions???
COME ON PEOPLE!!!!HELP!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 02, 2011, 11:03:43 PM
A lad i work with has a top of the range BMW which he runs on the red stuff.

I hope he gets caught.....
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 02, 2011, 11:03:43 PM
A lad i work with has a top of the range BMW which he runs on the red stuff.

I hope he gets caught.....

Now why would you want that ?

Never would think of using the Red but if anyone does I hope they aren't caught out.

Good luck to them.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2011, 12:10:22 AM
Quote from: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
:D:D:D:D
Dougal ask that question next week&the answer will be yes!!
nobody gona answer my questions???
COME ON PEOPLE!!!!HELP!!!!
Apparently they can detect down to 3% red in the white stuff. Sure run a bit of kero through her to clean the pipes!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 12:39:14 AM
Your name doesnt be in the paper and the fine is £500.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Aghdavoyle on February 03, 2011, 01:16:38 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 03, 2011, 12:10:22 AM
Quote from: tyronehi on February 02, 2011, 07:06:19 PM
:D:D:D:D
Dougal ask that question next week&the answer will be yes!!
nobody gona answer my questions???
COME ON PEOPLE!!!!HELP!!!!
Apparently they can detect down to 3% red in the white stuff. Sure run a bit of kero through her to clean the pipes!

Only if they test it, which will only be done if the appearance is suspect.
The initial "look test" is the only reason why the mix works
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyssam5 on February 03, 2011, 02:58:07 AM
Are you compensated for the fuel extracted and used in the testing process?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 09:11:18 AM
Does anyone know what the penalties are for being caught in the north for using green diesel (ROI agricultural) as opposed to red ? Apparently they cannot seize your veichle on green but can on red. Also if you do not pay the fine and ignore the warnings they post you they cannot prosecute. Any legal heads out there know the ins and outs of this??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
In short... That's Manure!! Red, Green, Kero... You will get done for the lot!! The fine is £505 for the first offence and they'll lift the motor if you can't pay on the spot.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 10:26:46 AM
The kero mix works though if u have it mixed right. They will only be able to tell if they take it for sampling, which they will only do if it looks dodgy. As far as im aware it looks clear when mixed with clear diesel.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on February 03, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 09:11:18 AM
Does anyone know what the penalties are for being caught in the north for using green diesel (ROI agricultural) as opposed to red ? Apparently they cannot seize your veichle on green but can on red. Also if you do not pay the fine and ignore the warnings they post you they cannot prosecute. Any legal heads out there know the ins and outs of this??

Its fact there used to be a loophole that they couldnt do you in the north at all if you were on green, they could dip, see green, but had to let you go on ahead.

It was changed a right while ago though, 10 yrs or so. Not sure if theres any remnants of it like above
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 03, 2011, 11:17:14 AM
Dippers outside the MOT centre in Newry at the minute
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tbrick18 on February 03, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
I heard the fine now for being caught first time is up to 2K!
Can any1 confirm one way or the other by way of experience?
Also, been told they only stay in one spot for 17 mins.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
In short... That's Manure!! Red, Green, Kero... You will get done for the lot!! The fine is £505 for the first offence and they'll lift the motor if you can't pay on the spot.
You seem pretty sure about this candyman yet I know of one person who was detected on green, did not pay a fine on the spot and did not have their veichle seized. They ignored the fine imposed and 2 years later no formal action has been taken. How is this "manure"? There must be something to it??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
I work for HMRC?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on February 03, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
Not unless HMRC are interested in saving money via their telecommunications or do you do a bit of moonlighting?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
I work for HMRC?

Now you tell me! Where were u last may when i needed a hand.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: theskull1 on February 03, 2011, 01:08:03 PM
What  :o ? You wanted to subvert the law???
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 03, 2011, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
I work for HMRC?

I can confirm that he does. He was always keen to be dipping boys pipes for them.  :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: BenDover on February 03, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
Not unless HMRC are interested in saving money via their telecommunications or do you do a bit of moonlighting?
We use google apps & GPS to catch those evading fuel duty.  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Onion Bag on February 03, 2011, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 01:44:15 PM
Quote from: BenDover on February 03, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
Not unless HMRC are interested in saving money via their telecommunications or do you do a bit of moonlighting?
We use google apps & GPS to catch those evading fuel duty.  ;D

and the GAABOARD
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Correct Sir... people really do leave themselves open for detection!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 02:33:38 PM
Id need to watch myself then wouldnt i  :o  8)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on February 03, 2011, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 02:33:38 PM
Id need to watch myself then wouldnt i  :o  8)

Yes or the Armagh man will dip your Tyrone ass :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 03, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Correct Sir... people really do leave themselves open for detection!!

I always knew you were a Cnut
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on February 03, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Correct Sir... people really do leave themselves open for detection!!

I always knew you were a Cnut
Ach now.... such language!! A CNUT is a useful thing is it not?  ;)
Like my avatar... thats me hard at work on the Battleford Road yesterday!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: pebble-dasher on February 03, 2011, 04:38:22 PM
They've covered some ground in the last few days,
Lavey, Maghera, Swatagh, Bellaghy, Portglenone, all round arboe coalisland direction, heard they were at jordanstown entrance all morning aswell.

Are many people now switching to clear?
Havent heard yet of many being caught
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 03, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on February 02, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 02, 2011, 11:03:43 PM
A lad i work with has a top of the range BMW which he runs on the red stuff.

I hope he gets caught.....

Now why would you want that ?
Never would think of using the Red but if anyone does I hope they aren't caught out.

Good luck to them.

If he can afford a BMW he can afford to run it legally.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
In short... That's Manure!! Red, Green, Kero... You will get done for the lot!! The fine is £505 for the first offence and they'll lift the motor if you can't pay on the spot.
You seem pretty sure about this candyman yet I know of one person who was detected on green, did not pay a fine on the spot and did not have their veichle seized. They ignored the fine imposed and 2 years later no formal action has been taken. How is this "manure"? There must be something to it??

So my friend was lucky then??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 03, 2011, 05:46:08 PM
QuoteThey ignored the fine imposed and 2 years later no formal action has been taken. How is this "manure"? There must be something to it??

Sweeper, fill her up with green and head up to one of these checkpoints and see what happens. You'll be doing GAABoard a favour.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 05:48:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 03, 2011, 05:46:08 PM
QuoteThey ignored the fine imposed and 2 years later no formal action has been taken. How is this "manure"? There must be something to it??

Sweeper, fill her up with green and head up to one of these checkpoints and see what happens. You'll be doing GAABoard a favour.

I have a petrol car, but I will tell my friend to do it  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 03, 2011, 10:21:49 AM
In short... That's Manure!! Red, Green, Kero... You will get done for the lot!! The fine is £505 for the first offence and they'll lift the motor if you can't pay on the spot.
You seem pretty sure about this candyman yet I know of one person who was detected on green, did not pay a fine on the spot and did not have their veichle seized. They ignored the fine imposed and 2 years later no formal action has been taken. How is this "manure"? There must be something to it??


So my friend was lucky then??

I can categorically state here and now... Your "friend" is indeed full of Manure!!!  ;D
As said by a previous poster, tell your mate to fill the car with green and drive up by the checkpoint...
make sure he's money on him though for the taxi fare home...  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 03, 2011, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: tyrone girl on February 03, 2011, 02:33:38 PM
Id need to watch myself then wouldnt i  :o  8)

I told you that ages ago
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 03, 2011, 07:54:25 PM


I can categorically state here and now... Your "friend" is indeed full of Manure!!!  ;D
As said by a previous poster, tell your mate to fill the car with green and drive up by the checkpoint...
make sure he's money on him though for the taxi fare home...  ;)
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So thats that cleared up then! Let me know where the checkpoints will be tomorrow and my friend will pay you a visit. By the way I hope you catch all the fuel tax cheats in the country. I am sick of paying high fuel charges because others choose not to and I know the more you catch the lower prices will become as the recouped revenue will be passed in to the consumer. :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: canice lynch on February 04, 2011, 09:27:35 AM
Between Moneymore and Cookstown today
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: wherefromreferee? on February 04, 2011, 09:58:56 AM
Quote from: canice lynch on February 04, 2011, 09:27:35 AM
Between Moneymore and Cookstown today

In a big way!  Both sides of the dual carriageway, and 3 sets of 'teams'

Some squad of cars/vans pulled up along the hard shoulder!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 04, 2011, 10:02:07 AM
Dont worry folks. This will pass and they will feck off again soon and then all back on the red and green no bother. ;D
Title: Update
Post by: giveherlong on February 04, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
Moneynena earlier
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: andoireabu on February 04, 2011, 04:40:06 PM
heard they are at The Elk in Toome, Grillagh and are setting up for MOT checks in Magherafelt tonight.  Must be that VOSA crowd if the Mot is getting checked.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 04, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
I don't think it is any coincidence that they are concentrating on areas of general lawlessness in counties Tyrone and Derry.
Title: Re: Update
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 04, 2011, 07:41:12 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 04, 2011, 04:26:40 PM
Moneynena earlier

They'll not catch many there.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on February 04, 2011, 09:46:23 PM
anyone else see this atleast facebook good for something


Customs Watch (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001982151548&sk=info#!/profile.php?id=100001982151548&sk=wall)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 04, 2011, 10:33:33 PM
Added 600 members in 4hours this morning!! They'll not stop us though... ;-)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on February 04, 2011, 10:39:07 PM
need a tax/speed watch facebook now
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 07, 2011, 10:41:38 PM
Where are these leaches sliming about these days? Is it safe to go back on the coloured yet? No sign of them about here at all.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Cde on February 07, 2011, 10:53:54 PM
is that you on facebook Candyman, if so keep up the good work. You are saving the country a lot of money
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 07, 2011, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: Cde on February 07, 2011, 10:53:54 PM
is that you on facebook Candyman, if so keep up the good work. You are saving the country a lot of money

NOOOO!! sure im out to get all you tax dodgers!!!  ;)
over 3000 members already that boyo in a week!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on February 08, 2011, 08:52:09 AM
would the customs be able to get access to the FB details of these 3000 members
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 08, 2011, 10:49:49 AM
Quote from: BenDover on February 08, 2011, 08:52:09 AM
would the customs be able to get access to the FB details of these 3000 members
Sure the FB page is just to notify us members of possible traffic congestion. Nothing sinister  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on February 08, 2011, 01:58:10 PM
With this drive on red diesel on and the recent increase in police check points checking tax insurance tyres etc is this just another calculated austere tax on the poor???
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 08, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
QuoteWith this drive on red diesel on and the recent increase in police check points checking tax insurance tyres etc is this just another calculated austere tax on the poor???

I wouldn't have thought so, I imagine they'd be even more likely to prosecute a rich person with a bald tyre or red diesel.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
There was a load of polis stopping along the Portadown Road in Armagh last night between the roundabouts - anyone know what it was all about?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on February 08, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
There was a load of polis stopping along the Portadown Road in Armagh last night between the roundabouts - anyone know what it was all about?
waiting on their chinese at Drummad?  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 08, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
There was a load of polis stopping along the Portadown Road in Armagh last night between the roundabouts - anyone know what it was all about?
waiting on their chinese at Drummad?  ;D
Tis possible as there was a couple stopping cars and literally about another 6-8 just loitering about! Could eat one myself now!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: trileacman on February 08, 2011, 09:04:42 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 08, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 08, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
There was a load of polis stopping along the Portadown Road in Armagh last night between the roundabouts - anyone know what it was all about?
waiting on their chinese at Drummad?  ;D
Tis possible as there was a couple stopping cars and literally about another 6-8 just loitering about! Could eat one myself now!
I duno TB I hear policemen taste pretty bitter.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Onion Bag on February 10, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Out in force at the min Armagh Newry Road, at the Tandragee turn off
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on February 10, 2011, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 10, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Out in force at the min Armagh Newry Road, at the Tandragee turn off

Is there something about Armagh the customs don't like, it's not as if Armagh has a reputation for fuel laundering or anything :D :D :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
The Guilt got the better of me and I'm now officially back on the 100% legit clear diesel. But only til the shower of cnuts f off. Was on red constantly for 5-6 years and was up confident that they wouldnt catch me on my indian routes.

However the places that these boys are stopping this time is unbelieveable, every random place that you would not even stop to avoid running over one of the locals.

So i went to the pump this morn and put in £10 clear knowing that it would do very little to the needle but hoping that three small fills will wash the rosiness out of my tank. By the time i got to work the diesel light was back on!

Clear Diesel is not cheap!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
The Guilt got the better of me and I'm now officially back on the 100% legit clear diesel. But only til the shower of cnuts f off. Was on red constantly for 5-6 years and was up confident that they wouldnt catch me on my indian routes.

However the places that these boys are stopping this time is unbelieveable, every random place that you would not even stop to avoid running over one of the locals.

So i went to the pump this morn and put in £10 clear knowing that it would do very little to the needle but hoping that three small fills will wash the rosiness out of my tank. By the time i got to work the diesel light was back on!

Clear Diesel is not cheap!!!

Hey FW. I think you are mixing up guilt and fear of getting caught! :D

When are these low life tax collectors f**king off home?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 01:38:39 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
The Guilt got the better of me and I'm now officially back on the 100% legit clear diesel. But only til the shower of cnuts f off. Was on red constantly for 5-6 years and was up confident that they wouldnt catch me on my indian routes.

However the places that these boys are stopping this time is unbelieveable, every random place that you would not even stop to avoid running over one of the locals.

So i went to the pump this morn and put in £10 clear knowing that it would do very little to the needle but hoping that three small fills will wash the rosiness out of my tank. By the time i got to work the diesel light was back on!

Clear Diesel is not cheap!!!

Hey FW. I think you are mixing up guilt and fear of getting caught! :D

When are these low life tax collectors f**king off home?

EC you could be right but im hearing of them stopping in places that are one stop up from Beirut, places like Pomeroy ffs :P, so I dont feel safe on the back roads any more. When are they going home-no one knows. But i am of the persuasion that these hoteliers should not be putting them up, should not be feeding them steaks at what is essentially our expense.

We, afterall, are the ones who maintain a steady income for these propeiters 365 days a year and to take their 30 pieces of silver is in my opinion unjustifiable.

Also, who dips the dippers? EH?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

wonder how long the low lifes are going to be about for.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

wonder how long the low lifes are going to be about for.

Just go on the clear EC you fecking cheapskate!!! :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on February 10, 2011, 10:38:48 PM
Imagine all the whinging you'd do if you were driving petrol cars  :'(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

wonder how long the low lifes are going to be about for.

Just go on the clear EC you fecking cheapskate!!! :P

I'm on it this 2 weeks. Dear stuff! Breaking my heart. I would swear the car is not going as well.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 10, 2011, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 10, 2011, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 10, 2011, 11:08:03 AM
Out in force at the min Armagh Newry Road, at the Tandragee turn off

Is there something about Armagh the customs don't like, it's not as if Armagh has a reputation for fuel laundering or anything :D :D :D
Chat like that will get Armagh a bad name!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 11, 2011, 08:22:29 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 10, 2011, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 10, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

wonder how long the low lifes are going to be about for.



Just go on the clear EC you fecking cheapskate!!! :P

I'm on it this 2 weeks. Dear stuff! Breaking my heart. I would swear the car is not going as well.

I was told recently from a man in the know (an Armagh man as well) that the clear you buy out of the filling station is 99% likely to be washed unless your buying it form tesco, asda etc. Seems the launderers are supplying all the filling stations with the cheap stuff also!!

You can not be sure unless she is red.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 11, 2011, 02:21:52 PM
Moy Dungannon Straight now!

Up beside Moy Way Motors.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 11, 2011, 03:58:16 PM
They are now away!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 11, 2011, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

I tried to book a room in the Killyhevlin recently for a wedding I am attending in the near future. The cost of a double room with breakfast was £140 and that was supposedly a reduced rate for the wedding. It would seem that its perfectly acceptable for these shower of low life c**ts to stay in such luxury paid for by the ordinary person whilst we all pay close to £1.40 a litre for diesel with half the country out of work, rising rates bills etc etc... Why are our politicians not speaking up about this???
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: the waffler on February 11, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
everyone should be on the red
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 11, 2011, 10:19:25 PM
Quoteeveryone should be on the red

If you were a patriot, then you would favour the green.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: SDarbs on February 12, 2011, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: sweeper on February 11, 2011, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: SDarbs on February 10, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
Reliably informed 56 of these 'civil servants' are currently staying in the Killyhevlin in Enniskillen. Concentrated on the area around Maguiresbridge and Lisbellaw the last few days.

I tried to book a room in the Killyhevlin recently for a wedding I am attending in the near future. The cost of a double room with breakfast was £140 and that was supposedly a reduced rate for the wedding. It would seem that its perfectly acceptable for these shower of low life c**ts to stay in such luxury paid for by the ordinary person whilst we all pay close to £1.40 a litre for diesel with half the country out of work, rising rates bills etc etc... Why are our politicians not speaking up about this???

They jack the prices up in there for weddings, I swear it. I was the same as yourself went to book a room for a wedding got quoted £140 in the Killyhevlin. Went on to expedia to see what the craic was, nothing available. Though it looked a bit suss so I checked the day before and it was £80, yet the hotel said they had plenty of availability. I'm assuming from that they decided to prevent the likes of expedia/lastminute.com from booking rooms at a lesser rate by showing them as sold out to the online travel agents. Scummers.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on February 12, 2011, 05:55:48 PM
That sounds like a Rodney Watson stunt alright the black hoor but I suppose most hotels are at the same craic.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Never book a hotel by phoning them, always go through some of those websites as when they sign up to them they have to keep a certain amount of rooms available.

Totally agree though they should be staying in budget hotels and even that is too good for them!

BTW our politicians wouldnt know where to start the problems in this country, just happy to line their own pockets for as long as they can get away with it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: thebigfella on February 14, 2011, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Never book a hotel by phoning them, always go through some of those websites as when they sign up to them they have to keep a certain amount of rooms available.

Totally agree though they should be staying in budget hotels and even that is too good for them!
BTW our politicians wouldnt know where to start the problems in this country, just happy to line their own pockets for as long as they can get away with it.

I would say they have a budget within public sector guidelines and If they can negioate a group rate within this budget then fair play. Personally I have stayed in lots of hotels for work and I would begrudge anyone a bit of confort away from home; even if I do think they are a shower of c***s.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Banana Man on February 14, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 14, 2011, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Never book a hotel by phoning them, always go through some of those websites as when they sign up to them they have to keep a certain amount of rooms available.

Totally agree though they should be staying in budget hotels and even that is too good for them!
BTW our politicians wouldnt know where to start the problems in this country, just happy to line their own pockets for as long as they can get away with it.

I would say they have a budget within public sector guidelines and If they can negioate a group rate within this budget then fair play. Personally I have stayed in lots of hotels for work and I would begrudge anyone a bit of confort away from home; even if I do think they are a shower of c***s.

you mean you wouldn't begrudge them?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Onion Bag on February 14, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Never book a hotel by phoning them, always go through some of those websites as when they sign up to them they have to keep a certain amount of rooms available.

Totally agree though they should be staying in budget hotels and even that is too good for them!

BTW our politicians wouldnt know where to start the problems in this country, just happy to line their own pockets for as long as they can get away with it.

Book a single room, there will be double bed in it anyways,

chances are you are dying with a fat hangover and will miss breakfast anyways
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: thebigfella on February 14, 2011, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Banana Man on February 14, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 14, 2011, 11:02:49 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Never book a hotel by phoning them, always go through some of those websites as when they sign up to them they have to keep a certain amount of rooms available.

Totally agree though they should be staying in budget hotels and even that is too good for them!
BTW our politicians wouldnt know where to start the problems in this country, just happy to line their own pockets for as long as they can get away with it.

I would say they have a budget within public sector guidelines and If they can negioate a group rate within this budget then fair play. Personally I have stayed in lots of hotels for work and I would begrudge anyone a bit of confort away from home; even if I do think they are a shower of c***s.

you mean you wouldn't begrudge them?

Yep thats what I meant.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: OverTheBlackSpot on February 14, 2011, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: the waffler on February 11, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
everyone should be on the red

Here here, even if you drive a petrol !
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2011, 10:50:15 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 12, 2011, 05:55:48 PM
That sounds like a Rodney Watson stunt alright the black hoor but I suppose most hotels are at the same craic.
They're all the f**king same. We were booking somewhere for a wedding last year - Galgorm I think - so the missus rang up and asked for the special wedding rate which they gave. I checked online out of curiosity and it was the same as the "specially discounted wedding rate". Tramps.
Title: Re
Post by: stiffler on February 14, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
Many people here been dipped?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 14, 2011, 10:52:23 PM
Can we get this thread back on track please.
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Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 14, 2011, 11:00:02 PM
I've never been dipped, I'll have to get a diesel car!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2011, 11:07:18 PM
Have always driven diesel cars and have never even been stopped by these fellas never mind dipped and I live less than 5 miles from the border in Armagh. Loads of cops out with the hairdryers lately though - had to hit the anchors at Keeley's in Armagh on Saturday and Kernan in Portadown today.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on February 15, 2011, 08:57:28 AM
Hairdryer out this morning outside the Honda garage on the Armagh-Portadown road
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sweeper on February 20, 2011, 08:45:15 AM
Dippers were out in force earlier in the week at the Moy/Dungannon roundabout and also down on the motorway. Also been spotted at Ballygawley roundabout a few times. Maybe this was their last big fling before they pi** off back to Scotland ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on February 20, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Heard that a member of staff in the Glenavon got the chop for Spreading the news that the customs bucko's were shacking up there for a fortnight.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on February 20, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Have the queen's tax collectors fcuked off yet? If not maybe they should be encouraged to do so.  >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Final Whistle on February 20, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 20, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Heard that a member of staff in the Glenavon got the chop for Spreading the news that the customs bucko's were shacking up there for a fortnight.

Can anyone verify this? I sincerely hope that this is incorrect.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on February 21, 2011, 10:29:55 AM
Not sure about that, but I had heard that the customs ones were asked to leave by the Glenavon any truth to that?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on February 21, 2011, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on February 20, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 20, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Heard that a member of staff in the Glenavon got the chop for Spreading the news that the customs bucko's were shacking up there for a fortnight.

Can anyone verify this? I sincerely hope that this is incorrect.

Not solid fact but heard from a secondary source.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on February 21, 2011, 03:13:27 PM
any word of these tramps going home!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: MK on February 23, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
This mob at Loughbrickland all day!!
Only safe to go home now   ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2011, 12:17:39 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 14, 2011, 11:07:18 PM
Have always driven diesel cars and have never even been stopped by these fellas never mind dipped and I live less than 5 miles from the border in Armagh. Loads of cops out with the hairdryers lately though - had to hit the anchors at Keeley's in Armagh on Saturday and Kernan in Portadown today.

Was chatting to my father today about the dippers - he had the opinion (and had to be corrected by the mother) that they dont stop cars - because he's been driving diesel cars for 20 years and never once been stopped by this crowd.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: new devil on February 24, 2011, 04:54:16 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 20, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Heard that a member of staff in the Glenavon got the chop for Spreading the news that the customs bucko's were shacking up there for a fortnight.

People should boycott that place for allowing them shower of bastards stay there
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on February 24, 2011, 11:34:48 AM
Road tax crowd scanned a few estates in Armagh yesterday and clamped a few cars, if these cars had to have been parked on the driveways of the house could they still have been clamped?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: aontroim on February 24, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
If they've not taxed the car and not applied for a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) i think they can clamp alright.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: thebigfella on February 24, 2011, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 24, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
If they've not taxed the car and not applied for a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) i think they can clamp alright.

Not on you property, they have to have permission to come onto it. They can just look it up on a database and send out a fine though if a SORN hasn't been applied for.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 24, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 24, 2011, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 24, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
If they've not taxed the car and not applied for a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) i think they can clamp alright.

Not on you property, they have to have permission to come onto it. They can just look it up on a database and send out a fine though if a SORN hasn't been applied for.
In true government fashion they probably have SORN applications and road tax details on separate databases with no means of querying whose car has no/expired tax and no SORN against it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: thebigfella on February 24, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 24, 2011, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 24, 2011, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: aontroim on February 24, 2011, 11:44:35 AM
If they've not taxed the car and not applied for a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) i think they can clamp alright.

Not on you property, they have to have permission to come onto it. They can just look it up on a database and send out a fine though if a SORN hasn't been applied for.
In true government fashion they probably have SORN applications and road tax details on separate databases with no means of querying whose car has no/expired tax and no SORN against it.

Thus would be the norm but I know someone who has been caught out, so it must work ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on February 25, 2011, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: new devil on February 24, 2011, 04:54:16 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 20, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Heard that a member of staff in the Glenavon got the chop for Spreading the news that the customs bucko's were shacking up there for a fortnight.

People should boycott that place for allowing them shower of b**tards stay there

Dead right NEW DEVIL. But no doubt the clientele that the glen pen is attracting these days they'll be buying the dippers mojito's and carrying them to the VIP area for them. Bring back the days of the cocktail bar where you got a good ould squad of GAA heads in on a sunday night after a dry weekend and you could basically do whatever the f*ck ye wanted.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on March 08, 2011, 10:48:32 AM
They are at Ballygawley roundabout this morning. Cnuts. >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on March 08, 2011, 11:36:00 AM

Jaysus, twas quiet a while. Thought they may have been gone.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on March 08, 2011, 12:47:29 PM
They had Armagh well covered Sat night - Market St, top of the clump & Newry Rd. MOT centre pulled an all nighter
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on March 22, 2011, 03:11:52 PM
Dippers all over cookstown
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: downtown on March 24, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
On armagh keady road at minute
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 24, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
There's a big squad of customs and police at the hill top coming out of Armagh on the Armagh to Newry road
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Candyman on March 24, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
All over Armagh:

Keady, Newry, Loughgall and Moy Roads!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on June 16, 2011, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 24, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
All over Armagh:

Keady, Newry, Loughgall and Moy Roads!!!


What is the story with the dippers are they ever going to let up in this area? Its been a long time since they booked into the glenavon - yet there still dipping around the cookstown area today!!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2011, 04:07:05 PM
Quoteare they ever going to let up in this area?

They probably will, around the time they stop catching anyone.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: SDarbs on October 13, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
About Enniskillen all week apprently and Armagh/Newry this afternoon
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hashtag on October 14, 2011, 10:53:33 AM
Can confirm they are in Enniskillen all week. I'm on the clear stuff anyway.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on October 14, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
Checked into the canal court for a while the wankbags!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
Fuppin' backstards!

Where's the Ra when you need em?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Christmas Lights on October 14, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
Stop hating on people doing their jobs!!  If your using illegal diesel and you get caught, what excuse do you have??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 14, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Recession! Jobsworth c***ts
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: dec on October 14, 2011, 01:58:06 PM
Easy solution, just get rid of the coloured diesel completely.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 14, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
Stop hating on people doing their jobs!!  If your using illegal diesel and you get caught, what excuse do you have??

Why do u care if I, or thousands use red diesel? In case you haven't noticed, fuel is sky high and we're in a feckin recession. Good luck to anyone on the red who gets away with it. They're not doing anyone any harm.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on October 14, 2011, 05:20:46 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on October 14, 2011, 01:43:05 PM
Stop hating on people doing their jobs!!  If your using illegal diesel and you get caught, what excuse do you have??

Why do u care if I, or thousands use red diesel? In case you haven't noticed, fuel is sky high and we're in a feckin recession. Good luck to anyone on the red who gets away with it. They're not doing anyone any harm.

These two things are connected.

By the way - your 'Ra comment is f**king atroicious.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
If anyone is on the jungle juice and wishes to take that risk, so be it. But don't complain about the state of the roads or the lack of gritting on some of them these coming few months if you do.

What has red diesel got to do with the state of the roads?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
Puckoon, well there wasn't many dippers during the troubles, was there?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on October 14, 2011, 05:37:23 PM
No, you're right. Bring them back.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on October 14, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
If anyone is on the jungle juice and wishes to take that risk, so be it. But don't complain about the state of the roads or the lack of gritting on some of them these coming few months if you do.

What has red diesel got to do with the state of the roads?
If you are driving on red rather than clear, you are committing tax evasion. While nearly all relevant taxes raised tend to go into a big pot, the general idea is that fuel duty and road tax should go to maintaining relevant infrastructure i.e. the road network. If there is less money to keep this infrastructure going, then there has to be obvious cutbacks e.g. no gritting or clearing snow off roads which don't meet a certain level of traffic, potholes being slower to be filled as less resources are in place etc.

and what about the likes of myself for example, driving around this 20 years on clear, thinking to myself...i must have provided 1000's in some extra tax so that i dont have to drive over potholes, ramps, non-gritted roads and then i look around the roads i'm on and fcuk all is being put back in, as in, I see nothing but holes, ramps on a daily basis....then maybe its time i started the red and keepin my own feckin tax!!?!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:56:29 PM
Exactly, Abbie.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on October 14, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: Abble on October 14, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
If anyone is on the jungle juice and wishes to take that risk, so be it. But don't complain about the state of the roads or the lack of gritting on some of them these coming few months if you do.

What has red diesel got to do with the state of the roads?
If you are driving on red rather than clear, you are committing tax evasion. While nearly all relevant taxes raised tend to go into a big pot, the general idea is that fuel duty and road tax should go to maintaining relevant infrastructure i.e. the road network. If there is less money to keep this infrastructure going, then there has to be obvious cutbacks e.g. no gritting or clearing snow off roads which don't meet a certain level of traffic, potholes being slower to be filled as less resources are in place etc.

and what about the likes of myself for example, driving around this 20 years on clear, thinking to myself...i must have provided 1000's in some extra tax so that i dont have to drive over potholes, ramps, non-gritted roads and then i look around the roads i'm on and fcuk all is being put back in, as in, I see nothing but holes, ramps on a daily basis....then maybe its time i started the red and keepin my own feckin tax!!?!

ie my motors half wrecked with ramps everywhere you go, i'm all for safe roads dont get me wrong, but some of the ramps are ridiculous...so i look on that as a cost to me but who is posting me back a cheque each year for repairs as i blame ramps for my car failing mot's mainly.

but that topic is for another day, we#re talking diesel here
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on October 14, 2011, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Abble on October 14, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: Abble on October 14, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
If anyone is on the jungle juice and wishes to take that risk, so be it. But don't complain about the state of the roads or the lack of gritting on some of them these coming few months if you do.

What has red diesel got to do with the state of the roads?
If you are driving on red rather than clear, you are committing tax evasion. While nearly all relevant taxes raised tend to go into a big pot, the general idea is that fuel duty and road tax should go to maintaining relevant infrastructure i.e. the road network. If there is less money to keep this infrastructure going, then there has to be obvious cutbacks e.g. no gritting or clearing snow off roads which don't meet a certain level of traffic, potholes being slower to be filled as less resources are in place etc.

and what about the likes of myself for example, driving around this 20 years on clear, thinking to myself...i must have provided 1000's in some extra tax so that i dont have to drive over potholes, ramps, non-gritted roads and then i look around the roads i'm on and fcuk all is being put back in, as in, I see nothing but holes, ramps on a daily basis....then maybe its time i started the red and keepin my own feckin tax!!?!

ie my motors half wrecked with ramps everywhere you go, i'm all for safe roads dont get me wrong, but some of the ramps are ridiculous...so i look on that as a cost to me but who is posting me back a cheque each year for repairs as i blame ramps for my car failing mot's mainly.

but that topic is for another day, we#re talking diesel here

could you possibly drive over the ramps SLOWLY? You cant reason with this type of argument  ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
Just out of interest, what is the procedure if caught using the jungle juice? And whats the fine?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
Just out of interest, what is the procedure if caught using the jungle juice? And whats the fine?

500 sheets of a fine on the spot or they take the car, then its x amount per day in the impound, and prob x amount to release it on top of all that!

Fair play to anyone on the red, im considering going back to diesel cars simply to get back on it, 1.35 for petrol, f**k that! 60% tax on it! Should be 54p with no tax! You dont see where your money is going, i'll tell you where its going, paying for apache helicopters in Afghanistan and Iraq and for SAS secret missions in places the Brits have no need to be! Oh dont forget its paying for John Doe to lay about the house all day and get rubbered cos he's got a 'bad back'! This society is away to f**k!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
I know John Doe, and he does have a bad back!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
I know John Doe, and he does have a bad back!

Take his dole off him and tell him hes getting no more money so he'l jus have to get on with it, see how long it takes him to go get a job! Oh no thats right, people in this country have gotten that used to getting handouts that if they get cut off they'll just riot like f**k till they get it back!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
I know John Doe, and he does have a bad back!

Take his dole off him and tell him hes getting no more money so he'l jus have to get on with it, see how long it takes him to go get a job! Oh no thats right, people in this country have gotten that used to getting handouts that if they get cut off they'll just riot like f**k till they get it back!

Like the red diesel users, good luck to John Doe. The more you can get from the government the better. The government screws everyone, so fair play to anyone who screws them.

John Doe is probably off than people out working a full week. Who's the fool? Not John Doe!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:33:20 PM
Aw aye hes a great role model for his children and any young people around him, the country would grind to a halt if everyone took that attitude! Sure we'll just do like daddy or uncle Johnny and lay on the dole! Wheres the work ethic in this country, you just have to drive through West/East Belfast and wonder to yourself how the f**k are all these people off work? Oh thats right they dont work, they are just spongers off society! I agree that the Government is f**king everyone over, the people aren't stupid, i'm really surprised there hasnt been some sort of revolution yet, but the government has us all screwed that tight that if we were to go and protest for a week we would prob lose our job or losing that weeks wages would mean we couldnt pay the rent/mortage that month! Edwina Currie disgusts me, shows how far removed these elected representatives are from the real world!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on October 18, 2011, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 14, 2011, 05:05:53 PM
If anyone is on the jungle juice and wishes to take that risk, so be it. But don't complain about the state of the roads or the lack of gritting on some of them these coming few months if you do.

What has red diesel got to do with the state of the roads?
If you are driving on red rather than clear, you are committing tax evasion. While nearly all relevant taxes raised tend to go into a big pot, the general idea is that fuel duty and road tax should go to maintaining relevant infrastructure i.e. the road network. If there is less money to keep this infrastructure going, then there has to be obvious cutbacks e.g. no gritting or clearing snow off roads which don't meet a certain level of traffic, potholes being slower to be filled as less resources are in place etc.

No harm to you but that is a seriously simplistic view.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: comethekingdom on October 18, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
Just out of interest, what is the procedure if caught using the jungle juice? And whats the fine?

500 sheets of a fine on the spot or they take the car, then its x amount per day in the impound, and prob x amount to release it on top of all that!

Fair play to anyone on the red, im considering going back to diesel cars simply to get back on it, 1.35 for petrol, f**k that! 60% tax on it! Should be 54p with no tax! You dont see where your money is going, i'll tell you where its going, paying for apache helicopters in Afghanistan and Iraq and for SAS secret missions in places the Brits have no need to be! Oh dont forget its paying for John Doe to lay about the house all day and get rubbered cos he's got a 'bad back'! This society is away to f**k!
Buy your fuel in another part of the country outside the '6' and that'll solve that problem for ye!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
Any good ways of dodging income tax, Vat, inheritance tax, capital gains tax too when you are at it the Losty?? My hard earned keeps those good folk of East and West Belfast off the streets!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: comethekingdom on October 18, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 18, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
Just out of interest, what is the procedure if caught using the jungle juice? And whats the fine?

500 sheets of a fine on the spot or they take the car, then its x amount per day in the impound, and prob x amount to release it on top of all that!

Fair play to anyone on the red, im considering going back to diesel cars simply to get back on it, 1.35 for petrol, f**k that! 60% tax on it! Should be 54p with no tax! You dont see where your money is going, i'll tell you where its going, paying for apache helicopters in Afghanistan and Iraq and for SAS secret missions in places the Brits have no need to be! Oh dont forget its paying for John Doe to lay about the house all day and get rubbered cos he's got a 'bad back'! This society is away to f**k!
Buy your fuel in another part of the country outside the '6' and that'll solve that problem for ye!

So i can pay to bail out the greedy f**kers in the south, all your tax dollars are going to Mr Bank Manager, the same boy who's telling you if you dont pay your mortgage hes going to take your house off you, or better still he wont even give you the mortgage! Communism to f**k!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
Any good ways of dodging income tax, Vat, inheritance tax, capital gains tax too when you are at it the Losty?? My hard earned keeps those good folk of East and West Belfast off the streets!!!

Aye lad, go self employed and dont fill out a tax return, Slab Murphy got away with it for years, still havent got him behind bars! He'll prob be dead before he does a day inside, but then again you dare not f**k with him, I don't know if you have that sort of imposing character Sammy!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
Any good ways of dodging income tax, Vat, inheritance tax, capital gains tax too when you are at it the Losty?? My hard earned keeps those good folk of East and West Belfast off the streets!!!

Aye lad, go self employed and dont fill out a tax return, Slab Murphy got away with it for years, still havent got him behind bars! He'll prob be dead before he does a day inside, but then again you dare not f**k with him, I don't know if you have that sort of imposing character Sammy!

I wish. Just a silly old Joe Soap who generally plays by the rules...Taxes and Death eh?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
Any good ways of dodging income tax, Vat, inheritance tax, capital gains tax too when you are at it the Losty?? My hard earned keeps those good folk of East and West Belfast off the streets!!!

Aye lad, go self employed and dont fill out a tax return, Slab Murphy got away with it for years, still havent got him behind bars! He'll prob be dead before he does a day inside, but then again you dare not f**k with him, I don't know if you have that sort of imposing character Sammy!

I wish. Just a silly old Joe Soap who generally plays by the rules...Taxes and Death eh?


Revolutions are the locomotives of history.
Karl Marx
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on November 15, 2011, 10:30:17 PM
The dippers were outside Drumquin this evening. They were also dipping in Drimquin main street one day last week.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gallsman on November 15, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on October 18, 2011, 10:40:26 PM
Any good ways of dodging income tax, Vat, inheritance tax, capital gains tax too when you are at it the Losty?? My hard earned keeps those good folk of East and West Belfast off the streets!!!

Aye lad, go self employed and dont fill out a tax return, Slab Murphy got away with it for years, still havent got him behind bars! He'll prob be dead before he does a day inside, but then again you dare not f**k with him, I don't know if you have that sort of imposing character Sammy!

I wish. Just a silly old Joe Soap who generally plays by the rules...Taxes and Death eh?


Revolutions are the locomotives of history.
Karl Marx

Did you not hear about all the countries who tried living by Mark's teachings? Didn't really work out too well.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on November 15, 2011, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: LostInSpace on October 18, 2011, 11:01:57 PM
Revolutions are the locomotives of history.
Karl Marx

Do they run on diesel or blood?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on November 17, 2011, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: maco on November 15, 2011, 10:30:17 PM
The dippers were outside Drumquin this evening. They were also dipping in Drimquin main street one day last week.

B'stards! To quote Neil Warnock, they are sewer rats, but that would be insulting towards sewer rats.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on November 17, 2011, 09:13:03 PM
stopping out the sligo road in enniskillen and i see they closed the filling station in tempo as well on wednesday
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Mont on November 17, 2011, 09:18:51 PM
caught a few lads around drumquin as well the other day

hate them with a passion but anyone who puts the red lemonade in has to be prepared to pay the consequences
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on November 17, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
Quote from: Mont on November 17, 2011, 09:18:51 PM
caught a few lads around drumquin as well the other day

hate them with a passion but anyone who puts the red lemonade in has to be prepared to pay the consequences


it must be the cheap diesel in duncans
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on November 17, 2011, 10:49:44 PM
Loveth thy diesel dipper.

Luke 19:1-10:

At that time, Jesus came to Jericho and intended to pass through the town.
Now a man there named Zacchaeus,
who was a chief tax collector and also a wealthy man,
was seeking to see who Jesus was;
but he could not see him because of the crowd,
for he was short in stature.
So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore tree in order to see Jesus,
who was about to pass that way.
When he reached the place, Jesus looked up and said,
"Zacchaeus, come down quickly,
for today I must stay at your house."
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tbrick18 on November 18, 2011, 01:02:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 17, 2011, 10:49:44 PM
Loveth thy diesel dipper.

Luke 19:1-10:

At that time, Jesus came to Jericho and intended to pass through the town.
Now a man there named Zacchaeus,
who was a chief tax collector and also a wealthy man,
was seeking to see who Jesus was;
but he could not see him because of the crowd,
for he was short in stature.
So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore tree in order to see Jesus,
who was about to pass that way.
When he reached the place, Jesus looked up and said,
"Zacchaeus, come down quickly,
for today I must stay at your house."


Auch sure Diesel was a lot cheaper in those days, likely only about 34p/litre.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: gerry on November 18, 2011, 01:18:28 PM
i was stopped twice in omagh today
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DaisyCutter on November 20, 2011, 02:09:10 PM
Any word where the dippers are today (Sunday)? Im from the South Down area.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on November 20, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: DaisyCutter on November 20, 2011, 02:09:10 PM
Any word where the dippers are today (Sunday)? Im from the South Down area.

Tell us where and we'll send them.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DaisyCutter on November 20, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on November 22, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
Reported to be in the Dromore area today.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l. 
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: orangeman on December 17, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l.

Dear enough for red.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 17, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 17, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l.

Dear enough for red.
The sign must have been too small to fit the word "red" on so they left it off. Although "red" is a shorter word than "smuggled".
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: seanaglis on December 17, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l. 

Will 100% genuinely wreck your engine
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on December 17, 2011, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: seanaglis on December 17, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l. 

Will 100% genuinely wreck your engine

the only ever instances i've ever heard of diesel wrecking engines was when that diesel was got on a main forecourt
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: the waffler on December 18, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
the c***ts been about ards peninsula all week gonna be about ta the holidays portaferry kircubbin area
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 12, 2012, 12:35:02 PM
Out in force on the A1 at Loughbrickland right now!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 12, 2012, 02:06:27 PM
Heard they were about pomeroy and creggan the last few days.  >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
They were supposed to be in Hilltown about an hour ago. 

Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: comethekingdom on January 12, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
They were supposed to be in Hilltown about an hour ago. 

Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?
How legal is it to be driving on green/red diesel? Pay yer taxes and buy white diesel ye thieves !!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Lecale2 on January 12, 2012, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
They were supposed to be in Hilltown about an hour ago. 

Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?

Go for it!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Agent Orange on January 13, 2012, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?

Or you could use facebook like everyone else. ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Leo on January 13, 2012, 01:52:02 AM
Quote from: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
They were supposed to be in Hilltown about an hour ago. 

Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?

Why ae you worried abot "legal"?
The schemes you are seemingly suppporing are tax and excise scams that cost us all milions. Why are you not exposing these "die" criminals?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 08:58:58 AM
Does it f**k cost us millions from people using red and green diesel. The money is just redistributed. For one thing, its keeping a shit loada customs men in jobs, all of whom pay tax I'd have thought when they might otherwise be claiming dole. Also, any money saved is in all likelihood spent in the local community, where tax will be paid on it. You dont actually buy all that shite the govt put out about how they're hard done by, do you??! I can jsut see them dropping our taxes when they eradicate this criminality, cant you?  ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: cicfada on January 13, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
Simple solution I heard on the radio the other day! get rid of the green diesel and then give the farmers rebates ( for the cheap diesel)  depending on receipts etc. Seems like a good solution!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 13, 2012, 10:04:13 AM
Quote from: Leo on January 13, 2012, 01:52:02 AM
Quote from: amallon on January 12, 2012, 05:57:23 PM
They were supposed to be in Hilltown about an hour ago. 

Someone should write a smartphone app which people can report checkpoint locations.  Other people in the locality would get warnings on their phones that the dippers are about.  How legal would this be?

Why ae you worried abot "legal"?
The schemes you are seemingly suppporing are tax and excise scams that cost us all milions. Why are you not exposing these "die" criminals?

I don't know about all this legal discussion but I think someone should report you to the grammar police!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 11:29:29 AM
Quote from: cicfada on January 13, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
Simple solution I heard on the radio the other day! get rid of the green diesel and then give the farmers rebates ( for the cheap diesel)  depending on receipts etc. Seems like a good solution!

Its been touted for years. There'd be as many 'problems' with it.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 08:58:58 AM
Does it f**k cost us millions from people using red and green diesel. The money is just redistributed. For one thing, its keeping a shit loada customs men in jobs, all of whom pay tax I'd have thought when they might otherwise be claiming dole. Also, any money saved is in all likelihood spent in the local community, where tax will be paid on it. You dont actually buy all that shite the govt put out about how they're hard done by, do you??! I can jsut see them dropping our taxes when they eradicate this criminality, cant you?  ::)

This is brilliant.

We should have more smuggling so they can have even more customs which would be good for the economy.
We should all stop paying any tax so they can have more revenue staff which would be good for the economy.
We should all become thieves and burglars so they would need more cops which would be good for the economy.
After a while we would all be sent to jail and yes that would be good for the economy as they would need thousands of new prison officers which would be good for the economy.

At times like this I miss Screaming Lord Sutch.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on January 13, 2012, 12:33:10 PM
If successive governments were slightly less concerned with lining their own pockets and that of their cohorts and more concerned with helping the genuine hard working families who are being crippled by this stealth tax on fuel.

Have no sympathy for the government on this topic, tax the people to they cant afford to do the honest thing and then for good measure fine them when they cant afford it either.

Good to see that Thatcher lives on!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 01:42:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 13, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 08:58:58 AM
Does it f**k cost us millions from people using red and green diesel. The money is just redistributed. For one thing, its keeping a shit loada customs men in jobs, all of whom pay tax I'd have thought when they might otherwise be claiming dole. Also, any money saved is in all likelihood spent in the local community, where tax will be paid on it. You dont actually buy all that shite the govt put out about how they're hard done by, do you??! I can jsut see them dropping our taxes when they eradicate this criminality, cant you?  ::)

This is brilliant.

We should have more smuggling so they can have even more customs which would be good for the economy.
We should all stop paying any tax so they can have more revenue staff which would be good for the economy.
We should all become thieves and burglars so they would need more cops which would be good for the economy.
After a while we would all be sent to jail and yes that would be good for the economy as they would need thousands of new prison officers which would be good for the economy.

At times like this I miss Screaming Lord Sutch.

No, smuggling by definition would be spending money in a different ecomony you muppet.

The revenue lost by green and red diesel is not relatively significant. The point was that statistics about how much a particular activity is costing us are inflated to a ridiculous degree.

As for the rest of it, wtf are you talking about??? If you're going to attempt witty hyperbolic analogies to demonstrate how intelligent you are, you should at least try to think them through...

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2012, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 01:42:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 13, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 08:58:58 AM
Does it f**k cost us millions from people using red and green diesel. The money is just redistributed. For one thing, its keeping a shit loada customs men in jobs, all of whom pay tax I'd have thought when they might otherwise be claiming dole. Also, any money saved is in all likelihood spent in the local community, where tax will be paid on it. You dont actually buy all that shite the govt put out about how they're hard done by, do you??! I can jsut see them dropping our taxes when they eradicate this criminality, cant you?  ::)

This is brilliant.

We should have more smuggling so they can have even more customs which would be good for the economy.
We should all stop paying any tax so they can have more revenue staff which would be good for the economy.
We should all become thieves and burglars so they would need more cops which would be good for the economy.
After a while we would all be sent to jail and yes that would be good for the economy as they would need thousands of new prison officers which would be good for the economy.

At times like this I miss Screaming Lord Sutch.

No, smuggling by definition would be spending money in a different ecomony you muppet.

The revenue lost by green and red diesel is not relatively significant. The point was that statistics about how much a particular activity is costing us are inflated to a ridiculous degree.

As for the rest of it, wtf are you talking about??? If you're going to attempt witty hyperbolic analogies to demonstrate how intelligent you are, you should at least try to think them through...

So your criminal activity of choice is ok but the others aren't because: 
a) different economies,
b) revenue,
c) unreliability of some statistics and
d) I am not intelligent?

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:10:59 PM
(D) is the main bit, well, if one associates being able to read and interpret information as a loose guide to intelligence.

Like, wtf are you on about? You have invented and subsequently answered your own point based, it seems, on a skewed reading of my post. Staggering intelligence aright.

My point clearly relates to the effects people using green and red diesel has on us as tax-payers. Next to f**k all I surmise btw, as its clear if I dont keep it clear and succinct you'll get lost again.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:10:59 PM
(D) is the main bit, well, if one associates being able to read and interpret information as a loose guide to intelligence.

Like, wtf are you on about? You have invented and subsequently answered your own point based, it seems, on a skewed reading of my post. Staggering intelligence aright.

My point clearly relates to the effects people using green and red diesel has on us as tax-payers. Next to f**k all I surmise btw, as its clear if I dont keep it clear and succinct you'll get lost again.

Firstly it is a crime, I know you don't seem to have any problem with those, but people involved with such things usually end up in bother.

Secondly your argument about taxpayers is your own straw-man and not mine. There are many reasons why it affects the community negatively as all crimes do, for example what about the law abiding petrol station, but ultimately the reason I am against such activity is that it is a crime.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
Christ - I have managed to over estimate your intelligence again.

Noone asked you if you were against it or not - certainly not me, so what are you answering there? I have no idea what you are on about.

In relation to the local 'petrol' station ( ::)), where do you think red and green diesel come from, the sky? As I said, staggering....
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2012, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
Christ - I have managed to over estimate your intelligence again.

Noone asked you if you were against it or not - certainly not me, so what are you answering there? I have no idea what you are on about.

In relation to the local 'petrol' station ( ::)), where do you think red and green diesel come from, the sky? As I said, staggering....

You clearly are a genius, by your own admission of course.

Tell me this, what is your problem with the expression law abiding Petrol Station?
Also tell me what does 'Green diesel' have to do with the white diesel sold by the above or the red diesel sold by criminals via any method they can contrive?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on January 13, 2012, 06:50:55 PM
The only reason we pay taxes, is so that the government can pay back the interest on the money they have borrowed from the private banks. Using red diesel has no affect on the amount of money available for health, education, dole etc.

By the way, I don't consider using red diesel a crime. Failing to pay taxes on diesel to the government is the same as failing to pay back a gangster or a loan shark. Gangsters run the country anyway.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2012, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 13, 2012, 06:50:55 PM
The only reason we pay taxes, is so that the government can pay back the interest on the money they have borrowed from the private banks. Using red diesel has no affect on the amount of money available for health, education, dole etc.

By the way, I don't consider using red diesel a crime. Failing to pay taxes on diesel to the government is the same as failing to pay back a gangster or a loan shark. Gangsters run the country anyway.

You are taking the misbehavior of our Government, of which there is no question, and arguing to replace it with anarchy.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 14, 2012, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 13, 2012, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
Christ - I have managed to over estimate your intelligence again.

Noone asked you if you were against it or not - certainly not me, so what are you answering there? I have no idea what you are on about.

In relation to the local 'petrol' station ( ::)), where do you think red and green diesel come from, the sky? As I said, staggering....

You clearly are a genius, by your own admission of course.

Tell me this, what is your problem with the expression law abiding Petrol Station?
Also tell me what does 'Green diesel' have to do with the white diesel sold by the above or the red diesel sold by criminals via any method they can contrive?

Sweet jesus...I'm not sure how to pitch this slow enough so you'll get it. I know not having a clue what you're talking about certainly doesnt pre-empt you getting involved in a debate about whatever topics in hand, but you probably should check what you're saying every once in a while - people will think you're a complete bollocks.

Again, no idea wtf you're on about. I have no problem with any law abidng 'petrol station' (they're actually called 'filling stations' btw, I dont know of any one that just sells petrol). What makes you say I do??

And these same law abiding filling stations sell red or green diesel depending on their jurisdiction. Keep up, or even better, shut up. I dont know of any criminals selling red diesel, and I dont have the faintest idea what your last sentence means.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 14, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 14, 2012, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 13, 2012, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 13, 2012, 06:36:23 PM
Christ - I have managed to over estimate your intelligence again.

Noone asked you if you were against it or not - certainly not me, so what are you answering there? I have no idea what you are on about.

In relation to the local 'petrol' station ( ::)), where do you think red and green diesel come from, the sky? As I said, staggering....

You clearly are a genius, by your own admission of course.

Tell me this, what is your problem with the expression law abiding Petrol Station?
Also tell me what does 'Green diesel' have to do with the white diesel sold by the above or the red diesel sold by criminals via any method they can contrive?

Sweet jesus...I'm not sure how to pitch this slow enough so you'll get it. I know not having a clue what you're talking about certainly doesnt pre-empt you getting involved in a debate about whatever topics in hand, but you probably should check what you're saying every once in a while - people will think you're a complete bollocks.

Again, no idea wtf you're on about. I have no problem with any law abidng 'petrol station' (they're actually called 'filling stations' btw, I dont know of any one that just sells petrol). What makes you say I do??

And these same law abiding filling stations sell red or green diesel depending on their jurisdiction. Keep up, or even better, shut up. I dont know of any criminals selling red diesel, and I dont have the faintest idea what your last sentence means.

http://www.thejournal.ie/armed-robbery-at-petrol-service-station-in-cork-325957-Jan2012/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/armed-robbery-at-petrol-service-station-in-cork-325957-Jan2012/)
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1470344_stretford-petrol-stations-247-booze-bid-is-withdrawn (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1470344_stretford-petrol-stations-247-booze-bid-is-withdrawn)
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/business/vat_increase_hits_the_pumps_1_3418891 (http://www.derryjournal.com/news/business/vat_increase_hits_the_pumps_1_3418891):  However it is also reported that unleaded fuel rose to 159.9 in one Inishowen petrol station.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/fraudster-gets-seven-months-for-cheque-con-16099389.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/fraudster-gets-seven-months-for-cheque-con-16099389.html): They said that they had met a man at a petrol station in response to an advertisement and he had presented them with a pre-written cheque for £500 for a husky dog.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/dec/23/riots-england-northern-ireland-difference?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2011/dec/23/riots-england-northern-ireland-difference?newsfeed=true): Think of the three young men mowed down by a hit and run driver while guarding a petrol station in Birmingham's Dudley Road.

You don't get out much do you? You actually think a petrol station would only sell petrol?  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Diesel dippers check for red diesel which is a low tax mainly agricultural fuel. You spoke about green and red diesel. Green diesel is dyed agricultural fuel sold in the 26 counties and is irrelevant to this discussion on the diesel dippers in the 6 counties, who look for red diesel in cars, but you apparently don't know that. 

As for your points about using red diesel having no effect on the taxpayer: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/rise-in-fuel-laundering-court-cases-promised-16102362.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/rise-in-fuel-laundering-court-cases-promised-16102362.html): Your Government reckons it is €150m a year.  ::)


Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 14, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
Quote from: THE MIGHTY QUINN on January 14, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
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Quote from: muppet on January 14, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
Diesel dippers check for red diesel which is a low tax mainly agricultural fuel. You spoke about green and red diesel. Green diesel is dyed agricultural fuel sold in the 26 counties and is irrelevant to this discussion on the diesel dippers in the 6 counties, who look for red diesel in cars, but you apparently don't know that. 

Does that mean you won't get caught or can't get done if the NI dippers see green in your tank

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmniaf/334/33403.htm (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199899/cmselect/cmniaf/334/33403.htm)

Gas oil is essentially the same as diesel road fuel, but attracts a much lower rate of duty (see Ev. p. 22). To enable its ready identification, a prescribed chemical marker and a colour marker are added. It is from the colour of the dye that this product gets its colloquial names of 'red diesel' (United Kingdom) and 'green diesel' (Republic of Ireland). The use of either in the United Kingdom as road fuel is a criminal offence.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: trileacman on January 14, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
I see the use of red diesel as an ongoing civil disobedience against the illegal British occupation of the 6 counties.  ;)

Seriously though there is no shame in doing the Brits out of a lock of pound. Given the shit they pulled in the name of "queen and country" I would have no qualms in a few harmless illegal activities that f**k them over.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on January 15, 2012, 01:29:08 AM
Quote from: trileacman on January 14, 2012, 09:10:01 PMSeriously though there is no shame in doing the Brits out of a lock of pound. Given the shit they pulled in the name of "queen and country" I would have no qualms in a few harmless illegal activities that f**k them over.

Exactly, Trileacman.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on January 15, 2012, 11:18:58 AM
The less money they have.....the less bombs they can drop on people at the far side of the world.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: JUst retired on January 15, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
They will just put up the taxes of the honest people who buy legal fuel. >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: haranguerer on January 16, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on January 15, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
They will just put up the taxes of the honest people who buy legal fuel. >:(

Aye, and they'll put them straight down when everyone stops  ::)

Btw, lmao Muppet ya complete bollocks - you had to have a google lesson to see what you were on about -'red diesel sold by criminals' indeed  :D In future you should prob have it before you wade in tho.

And your last point is the initial point I was responding to - a few days later muppet finally catches up...
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2012, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on January 16, 2012, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on January 15, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
They will just put up the taxes of the honest people who buy legal fuel. >:(

Aye, and they'll put them straight down when everyone stops  ::)

Btw, lmao Muppet ya complete bollocks - you had to have a google lesson to see what you were on about -'red diesel sold by criminals' indeed  :D In future you should prob have it before you wade in tho.

And your last point is the initial point I was responding to - a few days later muppet finally catches up...

You still don't know that there are legal requirements to sell red diesel do you? You should try Google yourself or will I point you to the relevent law?

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_ShowContent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000164 (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageExcise_ShowContent&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_CL_000164)

Offenses:

If you:

misuse or supply oil (other than fully duty paid fuel) for use as fuel in a road vehicle
misuse or supply rebated kerosene for use to propel an excepted vehicle or as fuel in an engine (other than to provide heating) or
mix any rebated or duty free oil with any oil on which no rebate has been allowed.
civil penalties under Section 9 of the Finance Act 1994 or an Excise wrongdoing penalty under Schedule 41 of Finance Act 2008.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Agnes Dipesto on January 17, 2012, 09:12:21 PM
Customs crowd booked into Glenavon
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Sigersonbhoy on January 17, 2012, 10:21:21 PM
Are they def staying in Glenavon? Heard this at end of last week but haven't came across them yet. I've been in Cookstown area as last few days. Seen on Facebook that there is alot of customs around newry/south Armagh area.
Quote from: Agnes Dipesto on January 17, 2012, 09:12:21 PM
Customs crowd booked into Glenavon
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Moortown Spuds on January 18, 2012, 08:37:10 AM
They were in the Cohannen prior  to Christmas until a charming group of men went up late at night, bust the door in and told the manager he had an hour to get them all out or face the consequences.

Yella Scottish c*nts were police escorted to the docks.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on January 18, 2012, 09:36:41 AM
Quote from: Moortown Spuds on January 18, 2012, 08:37:10 AM
They were in the Cohannen prior  to Christmas until a charming group of men went up late at night, bust the door in and told the manager he had an hour to get them all out or face the consequences.

Yella Scottish c*nts were police escorted to the docks.

Thats the stuff for the c***ts. ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: redhandloo on January 24, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Customs were in aughnacloy today >:(
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Puckoon on January 24, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: redhandloo on January 24, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Customs were in aughnacloy today >:(

Did you get done?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: theskull1 on January 24, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: redhandloo on January 24, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Customs were in aughnacloy today >:(

Was big wild Roy not about?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: redhandloo on January 25, 2012, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 24, 2012, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: redhandloo on January 24, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
Customs were in aughnacloy today >:(

Did you get done?

No. Not dipped, thank god. But they were dipping beside the police station
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Abble on January 25, 2012, 11:52:13 AM
they're supposed to be staying in the Armagh city hotel for the next four weeks
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: clarshack on January 25, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
supposed to be all over dungannon at the minute
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on January 25, 2012, 01:57:38 PM
Only a matter of time until ballygawley to aughnacloy road gets a check point then :-\.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Seamroga in exile on January 25, 2012, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 17, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: orangeman on December 17, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on December 17, 2011, 10:42:45 AM
Just outside Poyntzpass big sign up stating: "100% genuine" diesel on sale for £1.19 p/l.

Dear enough for red.
The sign must have been too small to fit the word "red" on so they left it off. Although "red" is a shorter word than "smuggled".
I went past the sign again yesterday "genuine 100% white diesel". Draw your own conclusions. It won't be going near my tank.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Mickey Linden on February 08, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
Whats the fine for caught using red these days does anyone on here know?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on February 08, 2012, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on February 08, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
Whats the fine for caught using red these days does anyone on here know?

The last I heard it was £500.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 22, 2012, 10:17:53 AM
Loads of them on Northway in Portadown, just off Armagh Rd
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: front of the mountain on August 22, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Do they ever stop on the Motoroway/ New Rd to Ballygawley??

Would they usually stay off main roads at busy peroids??

IS the green a lesser fine??
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on August 22, 2012, 08:02:50 PM
You should try the white.

If you're caught with that they let you off !!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: dec on August 22, 2012, 08:14:41 PM
Just get rid of the red and green diesel and let farmers use the white as well.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: giveherlong on October 05, 2012, 06:37:36 PM
Ballinascreen last week. Few 306s pulled over
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on November 05, 2012, 12:12:01 PM
Just got a text saying they are in Omagh today.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on November 05, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
what road r they on?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
Must be a serious operation going on around the border at the minute on the fuel launderers.

Had heard there was a massive influx of customs HMRC in recent days.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 09:35:50 AM
On the radio this morning. Dawn raids on all the Gangstas in Armagh and Louth.

I would say this is a result of the Garda shooting a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 13, 2013, 09:37:33 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21766952

Major cross border operation against illegal fuel trade

Customs officials and police from Northern Ireland are involved in a huge cross-border operation against illegal fuel laundering and organised crime.

More than 300 staff are involved in the operation, including more than 100 personnel from Northern Ireland.

It is being led by the Republic's Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB).

On Wednesday morning, 19 searches were carried out in Louth, Monaghan, Dublin, Kildare, Waterford, Offaly, Roscommon, Westmeath, Meath and Tipperary.

Ten businesses, seven houses and two warehouses were searched.

The investigation, known as Operation Loft, is being conducted jointly with the Republic's Office of the Revenue Commissioners and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC).

It is being supported by the Garda (Irish police) Air Support Unit and the Air Corps and special police units on both sides of the border.

In a statement, the gardai said the investigation is focused on the suspected involvement of an organised crime group based in County Louth.

"The objectives of the operation are to seize evidence of assets deriving from oil fraud and money laundering, seize and dismantle illegal oil operations, seize cash or other assets including vehicles used in the criminal activity and to freeze bank accounts," the statement added.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 13, 2013, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 09:35:50 AM
On the radio this morning. Dawn raids on all the Gangstas in Armagh and Louth.

I would say this is a result of the Garda shooting a couple of months ago.

They seem to be hoping that someone will give the gang up, a lot of doors have been kicked in over the last few weeks, but strangely none of the suspected gang members have been visited.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: NAG1 on March 13, 2013, 09:54:41 AM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 13, 2013, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 09:35:50 AM
On the radio this morning. Dawn raids on all the Gangstas in Armagh and Louth.

I would say this is a result of the Garda shooting a couple of months ago.

They seem to be hoping that someone will give the gang up, a lot of doors have been kicked in over the last few weeks, but strangely none of the suspected gang members have been visited.

Had a feeling that it might be more about that than the fuel, its just an added bonus. Also I wonder would the Garda be so concerned about this if the country werent on its knees.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
Once these guys start loosing a pile of money I would expect arrests on the murder case soon enough. Money is their God. I wonder will any GAA players be involved?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: LeoMc on March 14, 2013, 11:00:24 AM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 13, 2013, 09:37:33 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-21766952

Major cross border operation against illegal fuel trade

Customs officials and police from Northern Ireland are involved in a huge cross-border operation against illegal fuel laundering and organised crime.

More than 300 staff are involved in the operation, including more than 100 personnel from Northern Ireland.

It is being led by the Republic's Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB).

On Wednesday morning, 19 searches were carried out in Louth, Monaghan, Dublin, Kildare, Waterford, Offaly, Roscommon, Westmeath, Meath and Tipperary.

Ten businesses, seven houses and two warehouses were searched.

The investigation, known as Operation Loft, is being conducted jointly with the Republic's Office of the Revenue Commissioners and Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC).

It is being supported by the Garda (Irish police) Air Support Unit and the Air Corps and special police units on both sides of the border.

In a statement, the gardai said the investigation is focused on the suspected involvement of an organised crime group based in County Louth.

"The objectives of the operation are to seize evidence of assets deriving from oil fraud and money laundering, seize and dismantle illegal oil operations, seize cash or other assets including vehicles used in the criminal activity and to freeze bank accounts," the statement added.

300 staff, 19 locations searched, bank accounts frozen and assets seized but no arrests?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: johnneycool on March 14, 2013, 03:53:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9KZBULT0mo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9KZBULT0mo)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 14, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
Once these guys start loosing a pile of money I would expect arrests on the murder case soon enough. Money is their God. I wonder will any GAA players be involved?
. Even by your standards that's the most bizarre comment I've ever read
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on May 22, 2013, 01:32:22 AM
Anyone roughly know the price of diesel around the border these days? The proper stuff, not the green  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ranch on May 22, 2013, 02:40:20 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 13, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
Once these guys start loosing a pile of money I would expect arrests on the murder case soon enough. Money is their God. I wonder will any GAA players be involved?

Such a load of  cr*p.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BenDover on May 22, 2013, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 22, 2013, 01:32:22 AM
Anyone roughly know the price of diesel around the border these days? The proper stuff, not the green  ;D
124.9 in Silverstream, thats what a sign in Armagh states.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Mickey Linden on May 22, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
Has anyone on here ever been caught on red? I wonder what the fine is these days?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on May 22, 2013, 12:14:20 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on May 22, 2013, 11:38:59 AM
Has anyone on here ever been caught on red? I wonder what the fine is these days?

£500 I believe.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on May 22, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
QuoteAnyone roughly know the price of diesel around the border these days? The proper stuff, not the green

It is debatable how much "proper" stuff there is on sale around the border these days, most of it started life as green.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Feckitt on May 22, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
Is the fine still only £500?  Sure that is no deterrent at all.  I would have £500 saved in no time if I was on the red
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on May 22, 2013, 01:55:56 PM
Was £500 when i was caught but that was few years ago now
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: WeeDonns on May 23, 2013, 09:09:42 AM
Just out of interest Tyrone Girl, what was the process?
Where were you caught, did they take the car or just give you a fine etc?

Have you made the £500 back yet?  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: aontroim abu on May 23, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
For those on Facebook there's a page called Northern Ireland Traffic Watch, it's very good for letting you know where accidents and trtaffic jams are, but also for telling you where the Dippers are and where speed cameras have been set up. Morally not right but morals don't come into it when you've bills to pay
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on May 23, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 23, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
For those on Facebook there's a page called Northern Ireland Traffic Watch, it's very good for letting you know where accidents and trtaffic jams are, but also for telling you where the Dippers are and where speed cameras have been set up. Morally not right but morals don't come into it when you've bills to pay

Balls to morals! I thought those sort of pages were closed down?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2013, 12:57:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 23, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
For those on Facebook there's a page called Northern Ireland Traffic Watch, it's very good for letting you know where accidents and trtaffic jams are, but also for telling you where the Dippers are and where speed cameras have been set up. Morally not right but morals don't come into it when you've bills to pay

The idiot running those pages has been banned from driving for life. He is before the courts on a regular basis. I think the Gardai get as much info from these pages as the people using them to avoid checkpoints.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: aontroim abu on May 23, 2013, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2013, 12:57:34 PM
Quote from: aontroim abu on May 23, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
For those on Facebook there's a page called Northern Ireland Traffic Watch, it's very good for letting you know where accidents and trtaffic jams are, but also for telling you where the Dippers are and where speed cameras have been set up. Morally not right but morals don't come into it when you've bills to pay

The idiot running those pages has been banned from driving for life. He is before the courts on a regular basis. I think the Gardai get as much info from these pages as the people using them to avoid checkpoints.

It's still up and running, seems to have several different mods who post up what others send them. I use it from time to time to check traffic jams etc, its actually not too bad
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omagh_gael on September 17, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
Have heard that there's a large squad of them staying in Coalisland. All you rasberryade drivers in the west beware.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on September 17, 2013, 05:37:33 PM
There is no way they would be made welcome in the 'Island
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: orangeman on September 17, 2013, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on September 17, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
Have heard that there's a large squad of them staying in Coalisland. All you rasberryade drivers in the west beware.


Now that's what you call changed times - in Coalisland of all places where not one parking ticket was given out in the history of traffic wardens.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on September 18, 2013, 12:02:52 AM
Have never seen a traffic warden in the Island.

TV Licence men were another extinct group around the town.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: tyrone girl on September 18, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
They were dipping at the roundabout in clonoe the other day for a good while so they might not be far away!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Gaffer on September 18, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
Seen the day when they wouldn't have dared shown their dippers in Clonoe.

Times have changed.

Good god they ll be in Meenagh Park next !!!!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: J OGorman on November 21, 2013, 02:48:32 PM
squad of renegades stopping outside the Elk (South Derry)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on November 21, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that it was illegal to use green or red diesel in the territory of the UK, but the diesel dippers only check for illegal usage of the red.
Is that so, that they don't check for green in the North?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on November 21, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
QuoteEarlier in the thread it was mentioned that it was illegal to use green or red diesel in the territory of the UK, but the diesel dippers only check for illegal usage of the red.
Is that so, that they don't check for green in the North?

They do. At one time green was not illegal but now it is.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Main Street on November 21, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 21, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
QuoteEarlier in the thread it was mentioned that it was illegal to use green or red diesel in the territory of the UK, but the diesel dippers only check for illegal usage of the red.
Is that so, that they don't check for green in the North?

They do. At one time green was not illegal but now it is.
So if somebody claimed on Jan 14 2012, that diesel dippers only checked for red (not green), that somebody would have been talking through their hole?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on November 21, 2013, 04:44:28 PM
QuoteSo if somebody claimed on Jan 14 2012, that diesel dippers only checked for red (not green), that somebody would have been talking through their hole?

I'd say so.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Aristo 60 on November 21, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
rarely see dippers in greater south Belfast but a friend told me there was a fairly recent purge in the Malone and Stranmillis areas. "Chelsea tractors" were the dish of the day and the customs officers were heard to remark they had caught 80 in a morning.


What is the current fine? £1,000?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: qubdub on February 03, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Where is the cheapest place to get 'diesel' in Belfast.

A friend wants to know.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: qubdub on February 03, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Where is the cheapest place to get 'diesel' in Belfast.

A friend wants to know.

Ha I love these 'friends' wanting to know, or they know a guy who.....

If you are dodging tax on green diesel up north, what's illegal? Customs are pulling you for using red diesel as you aren't paying British tax on it. So if you have illegal fuel from another country, was that why you couldn't be done for it in the past?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on April 29, 2015, 07:23:40 PM
Listened to radio report other day regarding being caught on green in the south. Those caught faced court. Is this a new thing?

Apparently they said they can detect if your diesel is washed diesel. I wouldn't imagine that's a bookable offence?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on June 10, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
Any word on the locations our fuel duty protectors of late?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: qubdub on February 03, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Where is the cheapest place to get 'diesel' in Belfast.

A friend wants to know.

Ha I love these 'friends' wanting to know, or they know a guy who.....

If you are dodging tax on green diesel up north, what's illegal? Customs are pulling you for using red diesel as you aren't paying British tax on it. So if you have illegal fuel from another country, was that why you couldn't be done for it in the past?

You couldn't be done for the Green before about 2002, but that is a while ago now.

it seems with this new marker that some people are going back to honest smuggling, and none of this washing.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on June 10, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 04, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: qubdub on February 03, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Where is the cheapest place to get 'diesel' in Belfast.

A friend wants to know.

Ha I love these 'friends' wanting to know, or they know a guy who.....

If you are dodging tax on green diesel up north, what's illegal? Customs are pulling you for using red diesel as you aren't paying British tax on it. So if you have illegal fuel from another country, was that why you couldn't be done for it in the past?

You couldn't be done for the Green before about 2002, but that is a while ago now.

it seems with this new marker that some people are going back to honest smuggling, and none of this washing.

(http://memecrunch.com/meme/1MD98/smokey-and-the-bandit/image.png)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omaghjoe on June 10, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
Seems to be a high proportion of Armagh posters on this forum hmmmm.....
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Over the Bar on June 10, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
The cheapest place to get diesel in Belfast is Sainsburys!  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2015, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 10, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
Seems to be a high proportion of Armagh posters on this forum hmmmm.....

At least we have cars and so know about fuels other than TVO.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: omaghjoe on June 10, 2015, 07:16:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 10, 2015, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 10, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
Seems to be a high proportion of Armagh posters on this forum hmmmm.....

At least we have cars and so know about fuels other than TVO.

You really got me there
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on June 10, 2015, 07:23:15 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 10, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
The cheapest place to get diesel in Belfast is Sainsburys!  ;)

Tesco's Bangor definitely the dearest though!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 11:04:38 AM
Out in force past few days
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on April 13, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
Units on both the old Dungannon/Ballygawley road at Cabragh and on the new dual carriageway on the west bound lane just before Ballygawley roundabout. Pulling in everyone
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: WT4E on April 13, 2016, 11:30:50 AM
Why is everyone out to get Tyrone!

RTE
The Dippers

LOL
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on April 13, 2016, 11:42:50 AM
You can bet your arse they're not in Bangor or Carrickfergus or some other unionist kip.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on April 13, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
They were at Coalisland Roundabout this morning too...Leave Tyrone alone you inconsiderate Bastids.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: stew on April 13, 2016, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 13, 2016, 11:42:50 AM
You can bet your arse they're not in Bangor or Carrickfergus or some other unionist kip.

I got pulled in there two weeks ago every one of the f**kers was from Scotland, should they not be helping fight the drug problem in their own country instead of being put up in hotels and eating for free at the taxpayers expense.

On a similar note, if some bastard traffic warden is writing you a ticket but has not finished it yet, drive off, the ticket must be complete to be valid, 90 quid for a parking infraction in Armagh is a disgrace and the f**kers can't write enough of them.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: themac_23 on April 13, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
They tend to do this in blasts, few weeks/ month or so they are flat out then you dont see or here from them for 6 months. just park the big guzzler up for a few weeks and take the wife/ daughters micro/ fiesta to work! lol
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 13, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
They tend to do this in blasts, few weeks/ month or so they are flat out then you dont see or here from them for 6 months. just park the big guzzler up for a few weeks and take the wife/ daughters micro/ fiesta to work! lol

I wonder what their 'hit' rate would be? Official figures tend to be exaggerated and based on wild assumptions.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: stew on April 13, 2016, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
They were at Coalisland Roundabout this morning too...Leave Tyrone alone you inconsiderate Bastids.

Coukdnt hit it hard enough for me, and remember, when they are there they are nit torturingbthe good people if Armagh.

I use the white because I Couldn't be arsed sneaking around and relying on texts from mates, telling you they are in town, it is also the law.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: general_lee on April 13, 2016, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 13, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
They tend to do this in blasts, few weeks/ month or so they are flat out then you dont see or here from them for 6 months. just park the big guzzler up for a few weeks and take the wife/ daughters micro/ fiesta to work! lol

I wonder what their 'hit' rate would be? Official figures tend to be exaggerated and based on wild assumptions.
Sure half the country is on the red lol I wouldn't be surprised
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: stew on April 13, 2016, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
They were at Coalisland Roundabout this morning too...Leave Tyrone alone you inconsiderate Bastids.

Coukdnt hit it hard enough for me, and remember, when they are there they are nit torturingbthe good people if Armagh.

I use the white because I Couldn't be arsed sneaking around and relying on texts from mates, telling you they are in town, it is also the law.

It's the law? Wow, didn't know that. I'll take a leaf out of your book from now on stew. Good man.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on April 13, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: general_lee on April 13, 2016, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on April 13, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
They tend to do this in blasts, few weeks/ month or so they are flat out then you dont see or here from them for 6 months. just park the big guzzler up for a few weeks and take the wife/ daughters micro/ fiesta to work! lol

I wonder what their 'hit' rate would be? Official figures tend to be exaggerated and based on wild assumptions.
Sure half the country is on the red lol I wouldn't be surprised

It is the half of those that paid full whack I feel some sympathy for.
I use petrol, it is more refined, like myself.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: dec on April 13, 2016, 04:11:59 PM
They should just get rid of red and green diesel and then there would be no need for the diesel dippers.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on April 13, 2016, 04:36:14 PM
Quote from: dec on April 13, 2016, 04:11:59 PM
They should just get rid of red and green diesel and then there would be no need for the diesel dippers.

Or they could just reduce the price of diesel to a sensible rate, and people wouldn't see the point using the red stuff!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on April 13, 2016, 04:47:24 PM
Road surveys on both roads between Dungannon and Ballygawley today. They're there all day.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: stew on April 13, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on April 13, 2016, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: stew on April 13, 2016, 01:19:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
They were at Coalisland Roundabout this morning too...Leave Tyrone alone you inconsiderate Bastids.

Coukdnt hit it hard enough for me, and remember, when they are there they are nit torturingbthe good people if Armagh.

I use the white because I Couldn't be arsed sneaking around and relying on texts from mates, telling you they are in town, it is also the law.

It's the law? Wow, didn't know that. I'll take a leaf out of your book from now on stew. Good man.

I put the law not in because I would be a great fellah for wanting the law upheld in the states in relation to illegal aliens, I was wondering which clampett would pull me on that statement, you sir, are said clampett.  ;)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: maco on September 06, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
Dippers have Ballygawley well covered this morning. They were set up 1 mile from the roundabout on the Omagh side, and also on the Aughnacloy side shortly after 8.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: GJL on September 06, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
Quote from: maco on September 06, 2016, 10:32:52 AM
Dippers have Ballygawley well covered this morning. They were set up 1 mile from the roundabout on the Omagh side, and also on the Aughnacloy side shortly after 8.

Enniskillen road too. Massive operation this morning.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: The Bearded One on September 06, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
Do they just pull lorries and vans or do they pull cars as well? Have never actually been dipped before.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on September 06, 2016, 12:16:06 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on September 06, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
Do they just pull lorries and vans or do they pull cars as well? Have never actually been dipped before.

In Tyrone I'd say they'd also be on the lookout for motorbikes running on the red.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Hereiam on September 06, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
Thank god for facebook/twitter.  :P
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Rossfan on September 06, 2016, 02:48:49 PM
6 Counties criminality still going strong it seems 8)
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Dire Ear on September 06, 2016, 03:57:36 PM
Tamnamore now
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: doodaa on September 07, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
Been dipped twice.
Both of those times 10+years ago.
Haven't seen a dipping operation in years where I drive. Mostly North Derry/ North Antrim/ Belfast direction.
I must have covered about 300k miles in that time, id have been up a clean fortune if I was running red.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: DuffleKing on September 07, 2016, 04:42:39 PM

Aye but you'd have it spent of fegs and loose women. Be thankful for your life of piety via the customs
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on September 07, 2016, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 07, 2016, 04:42:39 PM

Aye but you'd have it spent of fegs and loose women. Be thankful for your life of piety via the customs

Probably dodgy fegs and smuggled women too.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2016, 12:25:46 PM
I've no doubt the dippers will move their operation into Armagh & Craigavon next, if i'm right i believe they go flat out at it for a week or two and then fly back to the mainland.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Brick Tamlin on September 08, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
where can ye find out their locations whenever they are about..which twitter or facebook page?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: No wides on September 08, 2016, 01:06:27 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on September 08, 2016, 12:45:05 PM
where can ye find out their locations whenever they are about..which twitter or facebook page?

Just don't drive on illegal fuel and you won't have to know.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: under the bar on September 08, 2016, 09:38:43 PM
Quotewhere can ye find out their locations whenever they are about..which twitter or facebook page?

#fegs n diesel
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on September 08, 2016, 09:55:09 PM
Quote from: doodaa on September 07, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
Been dipped twice.
Both of those times 10+years ago.
Haven't seen a dipping operation in years where I drive. Mostly North Derry/ North Antrim/ Belfast direction.
I must have covered about 300k miles in that time, id have been up a clean fortune if I was running red.

Aye but just think of all that money you paid in tax has gone to good causes.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
http://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/tyrone-news/motorists-using-social-media-site-to-avoid-dippers-and-speed-cameras-1-7567805
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on September 09, 2016, 11:52:14 PM
Sticking it to the man!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Owen Brannigan on February 15, 2018, 07:56:17 PM
The diesel dippers out in force today.  Spotted them on the Armagh-Newry road and Armagh-Portadown road.  They were pulling in commercial vehicles, larger SUVs and pickups.

It's been a while since I have seen them on the roads.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on February 15, 2018, 08:08:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on February 15, 2018, 07:56:17 PM
The diesel dippers out in force today.  Spotted them on the Armagh-Newry road and Armagh-Portadown road.  They were pulling in commercial vehicles, larger SUVs and pickups.

It's been a while since I have seen them on the roads.

People should go off dodgy diesel for Lent.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: BennyCake on February 15, 2018, 10:09:38 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on February 15, 2018, 07:56:17 PM
The diesel dippers out in force today.  Spotted them on the Armagh-Newry road and Armagh-Portadown road.  They were pulling in commercial vehicles, larger SUVs and pickups.

It's been a while since I have seen them on the roads.

Fuppin' backstards!
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Ambrose on March 04, 2020, 12:21:47 PM
Rishi Sunak is set to announce in next week's budget that red diesel - so-called because it is marked with a dye - will no longer attract a lower fuel duty. It currently accounts for about 15% of total diesel sales in the UK and costs the Treasury about £2.4bn a year in revenue.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sensethetone on March 04, 2020, 12:27:56 PM
That's gonna funk things up.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 04, 2020, 12:37:42 PM
That's gonna massively f**k things up.

QuoteExplaining the increased duty on red diesel, a government official said: "We are talking not only about a significant contribution to climate change but also to the quality of our air.

"At the moment people aren't incentivised to make the change to lower consumption or alternative fuels. We need to fix that."

Are these f**kers living in the real world?

A small (120 bhp) sized tractor might run through over £100 of red a day.
A bigger (200 bhp) sized tractor might run through double that!

Thats north of a thousand pound a week on fuel and some f**kwit in whitehall thinks "people aren't incentivised to make the change to lower consumption"?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: Ambrose on March 04, 2020, 12:41:42 PM
Disaster for farmers, along with upcoming reductions to subsidy payments at the same time.

Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: WT4E on March 04, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
Can we blame DUP & Brexit for this?

Another incentive for farmers to vote for reunification?
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: sensethetone on March 04, 2020, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 04, 2020, 12:41:54 PM
Can we blame DUP & Brexit for this?

Another incentive for farmers to vote for reunification?

Only if running a tractor on red diesel turns out to be more expensive than using green.

Likely to be some scam/scheme were farmers buy electric/hydro powered tractors and get £1.60 back for each KW used.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 11, 2020, 02:18:44 PM
Quote13:20
Chancellor to scrap diesel tax relief
The chancellor says he will scrap a scheme that allows companies in some sectors to pay duty of just over 11p per litre for diesel, compared to almost 58p per litre for everyone else.

"But the sectors using red diesel are some of the biggest contributors to our air quality problem - emitting nearly 10% of the most noxious gases polluting the air of cities like London," he tells MPs.

"This is a tax relief on nearly 14 million tonnes of carbon dioxide every year", which, he says, is the same as the entire population of London and Greater Manchester taking a return flight to New York.

"It's been a £2.4bn tax break for pollution that's also hindered the development of cleaner alternatives. So I will abolish the tax relief for most sectors."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-51765994/page/2

Done and dusted.

Setting up Boris to sell it all out to the yanks.



edit: I may have to row back on the above:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51832634

Quote*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: dec on March 11, 2020, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on March 11, 2020, 02:18:44 PM

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: armaghniac on March 11, 2020, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: dec on March 11, 2020, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on March 11, 2020, 02:18:44 PM

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.

More than ever, because they will no have to dip diggers.
Title: Re: Diesel Dippers
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2020, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: dec on March 11, 2020, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on March 11, 2020, 02:18:44 PM

*Fuel subsidies for off-road vehicles - known as red diesel - will be scrapped "for most sectors" in two years time

*Farmers and rail operators will be excluded

So red diesel will still exist and the need for diesel dippers will still exist.

More than ever, because they will no have to dip diggers.

Expect to see some building contractors "diversify" into farming as well!