Farming.

[trileacman]

its crazy downtown and it will be worse as I fear a lot of men will be after cattle so as to keep the SFP.

How does this help them keeping the Single Farm Payment?

You must be an active farmer to claim payment, you must have stock, in the past you only needed land.

[giveherlong]

SFP question from work colleague. He was left family farm but has never kept any stock, the farm has always been rented out. He is going to continue renting it out for next few years. He gets a small single farm payment at present. What should he do and is there a deadline for selling these entitlements he has, they wouldn't be worth much as the farm hasn't been stocked in past 20years

[93-DY-SAM]

SFP question from work colleague. He was left family farm but has never kept any stock, the farm has always been rented out. He is going to continue renting it out for next few years. He gets a small single farm payment at present. What should he do and is there a deadline for selling these entitlements he has, they wouldn't be worth much as the farm hasn't been stocked in past 20years

Tell him to have a read through here - http://www.dardni.gov.uk/q-and-a-active-farmer-2.pdf

[offtheground]

its crazy downtown and it will be worse as I fear a lot of men will be after cattle so as to keep the SFP.

How does this help them keeping the Single Farm Payment?

You must be an active farmer to claim payment, you must have stock, in the past you only needed land.

Q 13. What is the new definition of an 'Active Farmer'?
A. There is a provision in EU legislation adopted by the EU Commission on 11
March 2014 which states that "in line with the case law of the Court of Justice
of the European Union, payment entitlements should be allocated to the
person enjoying decision making power, benefits and financial risks in relation
to the agricultural activity on the land for which such allocation is requested." 
This provision has particular relevance for land let under conacre
arrangements. In general terms, this means that in 2015, when all existing
SFP entitlements are abolished and new entitlements established, then
landowners renting out land in conacre will not be able to establish
entitlements on that land. The principle being that where land is let, then the
farmer actively farming the land will be the one claiming direct payments on
that land. 
In brief, it will generally be the case that if a landowner receives a rent for
his/her land, the conacre tenant will obtain the benefit from the agricultural
activity undertaken on that land. Therefore, the tenant should establish
entitlements and claim payments in 2015. 
The EU legislation (Delegated Act) will be confirmed in May 2014.



The way i read that says you just need to be the one responsible for the land, whether that be keeping it in good state, growing grass on it etc. Not necessarily with stock...? No?

[Hereiam]

Dard being dard have not stated clearly what an active is. That is the problem.

[5 Sams]

Maybe the right place maybe not....but has anyone ever heard of the Limousin thread on AFR? 

[johnneycool]

Maybe the right place maybe not....but has anyone ever heard of the Limousin thread on AFR? 

Some great reading in that alright. Did they not have to remove it because of some Limousin breeders association complaining about it?

[orangeman]

Another death today at the slurry tank. 10 year old lad from Dunloy. Tragic again. RIP.

[Wildweasel74]

not too far down the road, know little of what happened yet but accidents round slurry tanks / pits, remember playing round them sometimes at a aunties house, children should be keep away from these death traps at all times. maybe somebody with a farming background can tell us why slurry pits are so dangerous at certain times of year, are gases released all the time or only in certain conditions.

[Tony Baloney]

Apparently wasn't a fall into a pit - by all accounts they were mixing slurry and were poisoned by the fumes. Very sad for the family and the father especially if he pulls through.

[orangeman]

not too far down the road, know little of what happened yet but accidents round slurry tanks / pits, remember playing round them sometimes at a aunties house, children should be keep away from these death traps at all times. maybe somebody with a farming background can tell us why slurry pits are so dangerous at certain times of year, are gases released all the time or only in certain conditions.

Gases are released only when the top crust is broken and the slurry is whisked in preparation for going in the tanker.

[EC Unique]

Very sad. Farms are dangerous places for children. RIP.

[Shrewdness]

Before slurry can be spread, it has to be agitated, or stirred up to make it easier to spread. It is at that stage it can be lethally dangerous as odourless gases can be released. It's advised to do it on a breezy/windy day to disperse gases. Stock should ideally be let out of the shed before starting this process, as these gases can be lethal to man and beast...The other danger with slurry is, of course, if someone falls into an open slurry tank or pit.

[Tony Baloney]

Before slurry can be spread, it has to be agitated, or stirred up to make it easier to spread. It is at that stage it can be lethally dangerous as odourless gases can be released. It's advised to do it on a breezy/windy day to disperse gases. Stock should ideally be let out of the shed before starting this process, as these gases can be lethal to man and beast...The other danger with slurry is, of course, if someone falls into an open slurry tank or pit.

There can't be a farmer in the country that doesn't know this yet there are deaths every year. Seems very unnecessary.

[Shrewdness]

Spot on Tony, and the biggest tragedy is when it involves children. It's an operation where no child should be anywhere near it.