The Official World Cup 2018 Thread

Started by Ball Hopper, November 16, 2017, 05:14:36 AM

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laoislad

Great game. The camera man played a blinder tonight also picking out some top talent in the crowd.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

JPGJOHNNYG

Fantastic 10 men and they were creating chance after chance. The swedes need to take a good look at themselves the way they blew that in the last 10 minutes

Wildweasel74

The free was in a very dangerous position and should had mire defenders in the wall

shark

Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.

Syferus

That was one of the all-time great goals. Utterly sublime.

laoislad

When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

shark

Quote from: laoislad on June 23, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: shark on June 23, 2018, 08:57:38 PM
Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.
Yeah. Mexico Sweden and Germany could all end up on 6 points.
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/world-cup-group-stage-tie-breakers-rules-what-happens-when-teams-/olh39ph3hunh1w1zdmhp3osft

If Sweden beat Mexico by 1 goal then we will probably see a draw from a hat!

BennyCake

Are positions decided firstly on goal difference?

shark

Jumped the gun on a draw from a hat. Should have read the link first!  Didn't realise they use head to head. In fact, fair play points come before a draw.

Minder

"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Ball Hopper


Here are the possibilities in the Mexico-Germany-Sweden-South Korea Group.  Nobody is officially out, or officially through to last 16 after two games.

- Mexico need a point vs. Sweden to go through and top the group.
- Sweden must better Germany's result to guarantee qualifying. If they beat Mexico and Germany fail to win, Sweden will top the group.
- Germany must better Sweden's result to guarantee qualifying.
- If both Germany and Sweden draw, the team in the higher-scoring game will finish second. If both draws are the same scoreline, Germany finish second on head to head.
- South Korea must beat Germany and hope Sweden lose to Mexico to have a chance of qualifying.

THREE-WAY TIE FOR FIRST AND SECOND
- If Sweden and Germany win they will finish level on six points with Mexico, and it will first come down to goal difference.
- Sweden are through in all scenarios.
- If Sweden win by two or more goals then Germany are guaranteed to qualify with any win (Mexico out)
- If Germany win by two or more goals then Sweden are through with any win (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win by two goals they are both through (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win 1-0 the three teams would have identical records and it would go to head-to-head mini-league, and this would see Germany and Sweden through on goals scored (with Germany top on direct head to head with Sweden) and Mexico out.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 2-1 (or any higher one-goal identical margin of victory) then Sweden would win the group, Mexico in second and Germany third on head to head goals scored
- The only other way Mexico can go through, at the expense of Germany, if is both games are won by one goal, but Mexico's defeat against Sweden is a higher-scoring game.
- If Sweden win by one goal, and Germany win by one goal but in a high-scoring game, Germany win the group with Sweden in second and Mexico out

THREE-WAY TIE FOR SECOND
- If South Korea win and Sweden lose there will be a three-way tie for second on three points for Germany, Sweden and South Korea. It will first come down to goal difference.
- If South Korea beat Germany by two goals they are guaranteed to finish second
- If South Korea beat Germany 1-0 and Sweden lose 1-0 to Mexico, Germany would be second on direct head to head against Sweden with South Korea bottom
- If South Korea beat Germany by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than Sweden lose to Mexico, then South Korea would finish second on direct head to head against Germany with Sweden bottom
- If Sweden lose by more than one goal they cannot qualify, and South Korea would therefore finish second with any victory

Capt Pat

I think it is advantage Germany in the race for second place. They play Korea who have lost both games. Germany will be looking to win by 2 clear goals to guarantee progress.

Tony Baloney

South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

Ball Hopper

Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2018, 12:08:53 AM
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

Or a load of Tony Baloney...

seafoid

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/23/toni-kroos-germany-sweden-world-cup-match-report

Germany had stepped on to the front foot at the outset, squeezing up the field, with their full-backs pinned high. They took an early grip on possession, with one statistic showing they made 122 passes in the opening 10 minutes to Sweden's six.

The worry for Löw was how threatening Sweden came to look on the counterattack and how easily they carved apart his team. It was extraordinary to see a German defence in such open and obliging mood. It was no exaggeration to say the game could have been over at the interval.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU