A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

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general_lee

Quote from: marty34 on January 23, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 23, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
🚨POLL🚨

@LucidTalk (Northern Ireland)

Support for a United Ireland:

No: 53%
Yes: 47%

(Excludes DK's at 11%)

Sample - 2,392
January 15-18th, 2021



Its getting closer...

Anybody hazzard a guess when a border poll will take place?

10, 20 or 30 years?

We'll need another year or two to see the outworkings or Brexit.

As an aside, I wonder will there be a census this year - are they not usually every 10 years.  If so, the results of that will be interesting.

Although in fairness, there'll be a lot of lads on here ticking the...mmmm...northern irish box.
There will be a census, think it may be done online. Won't make nice reading for the sally rods, but like you say a lot of people describing themselves as "northern" Irish these days  ???

Angelo

Quote from: marty34 on January 23, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 23, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
🚨POLL🚨

@LucidTalk (Northern Ireland)

Support for a United Ireland:

No: 53%
Yes: 47%

(Excludes DK's at 11%)

Sample - 2,392
January 15-18th, 2021



Its getting closer...

Anybody hazzard a guess when a border poll will take place?

10, 20 or 30 years?

We'll need another year or two to see the outworkings or Brexit.

As an aside, I wonder will there be a census this year - are they not usually every 10 years.  If so, the results of that will be interesting.

Although in fairness, there'll be a lot of lads on here ticking the...mmmm...northern irish box.

It has no chance when you have parties like FFG who were willing to turn a blind eye to British state atrocities on this island as long as they could cling to their power and an elite ruling class in their state.

The problem with a lot of partitionists down south is that they think it's a case of the north joining their state, it will be nothing of the sort. It will be a new state forming from two failed ones.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

#2792
Quote from: Angelo on January 23, 2021, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 23, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 23, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
🚨POLL🚨

@LucidTalk (Northern Ireland)

Support for a United Ireland:

No: 53%
Yes: 47%

(Excludes DK's at 11%)

Sample - 2,392
January 15-18th, 2021



Its getting closer...

Anybody hazzard a guess when a border poll will take place?

10, 20 or 30 years?

We'll need another year or two to see the outworkings or Brexit.

As an aside, I wonder will there be a census this year - are they not usually every 10 years.  If so, the results of that will be interesting.

Although in fairness, there'll be a lot of lads on here ticking the...mmmm...northern irish box.

It has no chance when you have parties like FFG who were willing to turn a blind eye to British state atrocities on this island as long as they could cling to their power and an elite ruling class in their state.

The problem with a lot of partitionists down south is that they think it's a case of the north joining their state, it will be nothing of the sort. It will be a new state forming from two failed ones.

Lol, how can you call  Republic a failed state, might be many things but that's not one

Sportacus

The Brexit Protocol is giving the North some of the pain of a United Ireland without any of the joy.  It's another step, but there's not much upside.

armaghniac

From tomorrow's Times

In Northern Ireland, a majority — 51 per cent to 44 per cent — want a referendum about the border within the next five years. And unionists hold only a slender lead over those who want a united Ireland now — 47 per cent to 42 per cent — but another 11% are undecided, enough to threaten the future of the UK.

The LucidTalk survey in Northern Ireland found that among those aged under 45, supporters of Irish reunification outnumber those who want to stay in the UK by 47 per cent to 46 per cent...

The polls show that voters in all four corners of the land expect Scotland to become independent within the next 10 years — by margins far in excess of two to one in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Northern Irish voters also think there will be a united Ireland within 10 years by a margin of 48 per cent to 44 per cent.

The LucidTalk survey in Northern Ireland found that among those aged under 45, supporters of Irish reunification outnumber those who want to stay in the UK by 47 per cent to 46 per cent.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Milltown Row2

Any boarders actually take part in this poll? How many are polled?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

balladmaker

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 01:04:06 AM
Any boarders actually take part in this poll? How many are polled?

I did.  As previous post, 2392 polled in the north.

RedHand88

Quote from: balladmaker on January 24, 2021, 01:23:25 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2021, 01:04:06 AM
Any boarders actually take part in this poll? How many are polled?

I did.  As previous post, 2392 polled in the north.

I did too, I'm registered with Lucidtalk and get invite emails from them when they run these things.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

JPGJOHNNYG

I did the poll too. It's easy to sign up to lucid talk. As for Arlene wasn't she goading bring it on not too long ago. Didn't see her warning about a divisive Brexit poll either the d1ck

JPGJOHNNYG

The usual suspect on twitter claiming the poll is rubbish. Funnily enough the latest LT poll shows a dip in support for UI compared to last time. Unionism prefers the NILT  polls which involve face to face questioning. Don't know when you last had to go to a polling station and tell someone who you are voting for but these polls are gospel for unionism they also have the SF vote under 10%  ffs. Sammy Wilson not too long ago was arguing that sure good loyalists don't have access to the internet. I'm not joking!! I think the most interesting thing about any future referendum is how the Alliance and Greens deal with it without upsetting a chunk of their voters either way. Don't think a vote on an individual basis will cut it during the build up to an actual referendum. PBP will have to stop spoofing too.

Rossfan

With Unionism and Nationalism neck and neck Alliance and Green voters will be the decision makers.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Angelo

#2803
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 23, 2021, 10:03:24 PM
Quote from: Angelo on January 23, 2021, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 23, 2021, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 23, 2021, 07:18:25 PM
🚨POLL🚨

@LucidTalk (Northern Ireland)

Support for a United Ireland:

No: 53%
Yes: 47%

(Excludes DK's at 11%)

Sample - 2,392
January 15-18th, 2021



Its getting closer...

Anybody hazzard a guess when a border poll will take place?

10, 20 or 30 years?

We'll need another year or two to see the outworkings or Brexit.

As an aside, I wonder will there be a census this year - are they not usually every 10 years.  If so, the results of that will be interesting.

Although in fairness, there'll be a lot of lads on here ticking the...mmmm...northern irish box.

It has no chance when you have parties like FFG who were willing to turn a blind eye to British state atrocities on this island as long as they could cling to their power and an elite ruling class in their state.

The problem with a lot of partitionists down south is that they think it's a case of the north joining their state, it will be nothing of the sort. It will be a new state forming from two failed ones.

Lol, how can you call  Republic a failed state, might be many things but that's not one

Homelessness and poverty
Disgraceful two-tier health service which has 6-700 on hospital trolleys every year with extortionate health insurance required
Inherent and widespread political corruption from FFG since the inception of the state
Institutionalised child abuse in state facilities that was ignored and hidden for decades
Massive national debt burdended on them by the govt to save the wealth of private investors
A culture of selling off state resources and services to the private sector for a song and a brown envelope
A state run by shadowy figures like Denis O'Brien and Larry Goodman
The current leaders of the two establishment parties - MM - took a bung from a property developer and LV has been up lately for interfering in the process to judicial appointments to appoint a crony and then leaks confidential documents to his mate.



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balladmaker

#2804
Quote from: Rossfan on January 24, 2021, 10:07:33 AM
Someones getting worried😄

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40213094.html

'In Northern Ireland, 47% still want to remain in the UK, with 42% in favour of a United Ireland and a significant proportion – 11% – undecided.'

The undecideds will sway it.  Always wondered how many of a catholic background in the north would vote to remain part of the union.  Looks to be quite a few still. With the Civil Service being a major employer in the north, I assume this would be a factor for anyone employed by UK government when it comes to the unification. Anyone here in the civil service who would share their viewpoint?