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Non GAA Discussion => General discussion => Topic started by: Rossfan on April 18, 2016, 08:24:04 PM

Title: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Rossfan on April 18, 2016, 08:24:04 PM
I believe the 26 Cos officially became a Republic and also left the British "Commonwealth" on 18th April 1949.

PS it stopped being the " Free State" 11 or 12 years previously.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: foxcommander on April 18, 2016, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2016, 08:24:04 PM
I believe the 26 Cos officially became a Republic and also left the British "Commonwealth" on 18th April 1949.

PS it stopped being the " Free State" 11 or 12 years previously.

Sensitive little soul that you are +1

You'll always be a free stater to me.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: armaghniac on April 18, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
Windscale became Sellafield, but it is still a danger to health.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: omaghjoe on April 19, 2016, 04:48:27 AM
Was it not at the adoption of the constitution?

Countries like India are in the commonwealth but the queen is not the head of state.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: seafoid on April 19, 2016, 07:01:33 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 19, 2016, 04:48:27 AM
Was it not at the adoption of the constitution?

Countries like India are in the commonwealth but the queen is not the head of state.
Eilis 2 is head of state of NZ
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Rossfan on April 19, 2016, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 19, 2016, 04:48:27 AM
Was it not at the adoption of the constitution?



Dev wrote the British monarchy out if the Constitution but didn't use the word Republic in it even though it brought in the office of President.
The State officially became a  Republic and formally left the British Commonwealth in 1949.
I believe foreign  Embassies in Dublin were "Legations" before 1949. Presumably ambassadors (or whatever title they had then) had to present their credentials at Buckingham Palace before proceeding to Dublin??
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 19, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
The rumour at the time in 1949 was that John A. Costello, the Teashop, was in Canada at a meeting with the Canadian PM and at the official dinner whereas they had a toast to King George V there was no toast to President Sean T. O'Kelly.

Costello, kinda half sorted jarred, took umbrage, declared a republic over the petit fours and the rest is history.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Rossfan on April 19, 2016, 11:19:31 AM
I also heard that Clann na Poblachta ( "Take 3" converts from physical force republicanism) who were part of the Inter Party Govt wanted to leave their mark by getting the term Republic into being.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: guy crouchback on April 19, 2016, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on April 19, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
The rumour at the time in 1949 was that John A. Costello, the Teashop, was in Canada at a meeting with the Canadian PM and at the official dinner whereas they had a toast to King George V there was no toast to President Sean T. O'Kelly.

Costello, kinda half sorted jarred, took umbrage, declared a republic over the petit fours and the rest is history.

so the story goes, on top of that the center piece on the table at said banquet was a silver model of a canon called roaring meg that was used at either the siege of Derry or the battle of the Boyne ( i cant recall exactly but i'm 90% it was Derry) this further infuriated costello.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Hardy on April 19, 2016, 05:38:54 PM
Orangeism has always been very strong in Canada and parts of the country, until relatively recent times, were not unlike the pre-troubles six counties, with order members predominating in public office, etc.
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: muppet on April 19, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
The 1921 Anglo-Irish Treaty was the first time 'The British Empire' was replaced by 'British Commonwealth of Nations' in Official Britain.

The term first received imperial statutory recognition in the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921, when the term British Commonwealth of Nations was substituted for British Empire in the wording of the oath taken by members of parliament of the Irish Free State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations)
Title: Re: Republic of Ireland
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 21, 2016, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 19, 2016, 09:31:48 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 19, 2016, 04:48:27 AM
Was it not at the adoption of the constitution?



Dev wrote the British monarchy out if the Constitution but didn't use the word Republic in it even though it brought in the office of President.
The State officially became a  Republic and formally left the British Commonwealth in 1949.
I believe foreign  Embassies in Dublin were "Legations" before 1949. Presumably ambassadors (or whatever title they had then) had to present their credentials at Buckingham Palace before proceeding to Dublin??

I often wonder why? Was it in the hope that partition would be ended in or around that time I wonder?