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So if a soft border pisses off unionists, and the North remains as it is, should all nationalists in the North not have voted for Brexit in the first place?

Some of them did but it was important that the north as a whole voted strongly to remain. I voted against Brexit but hoped that enough votes for it in England would lead to them leaving.

Was it? Why?

Many nationalists don't want to be in the UK, ie. a Union with Britain. Why would they want to be in a union with 20 odd others?

That's the brainless "nationalist" hypocrisy for you, I proudly voted for Brexit and would do so hundred times over. Living in a UK out of the EU is arguably more nationalist than living in an Ireland in the EU.

OF course its more nationalist.....British Nationalist

Still we are a Celtic Briton people regardless of the last 400 years of history. I'd rather be a British nationalist than have Europe seep their way under our skins.

Obvious WUM is obvious.

Just because I'm not wasting my life campaigning for a unified Ireland that will never happen

So if a soft border pisses off unionists, and the North remains as it is, should all nationalists in the North not have voted for Brexit in the first place?

Some of them did but it was important that the north as a whole voted strongly to remain. I voted against Brexit but hoped that enough votes for it in England would lead to them leaving.

Was it? Why?

Many nationalists don't want to be in the UK, ie. a Union with Britain. Why would they want to be in a union with 20 odd others?

That's the brainless "nationalist" hypocrisy for you, I proudly voted for Brexit and would do so hundred times over. Living in a UK out of the EU is arguably more nationalist than living in an Ireland in the EU.

OF course its more nationalist.....British Nationalist

Still we are a Celtic Briton people regardless of the last 400 years of history. I'd rather be a British nationalist than have Europe seep their way under our skins.

Load of drivel, I have 3rd cousins in USA and they send their children to Irish dancing, their great great grandparents wouldn't have Irish danced in Ireland, if you want to celebrate true Irish culture, get your children to learn the Irish language and teach them about Irish mythology not prance around in a wig.

So if a soft border pisses off unionists, and the North remains as it is, should all nationalists in the North not have voted for Brexit in the first place?

Some of them did but it was important that the north as a whole voted strongly to remain. I voted against Brexit but hoped that enough votes for it in England would lead to them leaving.

Was it? Why?

Many nationalists don't want to be in the UK, ie. a Union with Britain. Why would they want to be in a union with 20 odd others?

That's the brainless "nationalist" hypocrisy for you, I proudly voted for Brexit and would do so hundred times over.

Knowing that Ireland was going to remain in the EU? So you're an advocate for partition then?

Partition is out of my hands and always will be, a unified Ireland will never happen because the southerners will never want it, my opinion is meaningless on the matter, we Ulstermen have to take what we can get, if that's a UK out of the EU then that's it.

So if a soft border pisses off unionists, and the North remains as it is, should all nationalists in the North not have voted for Brexit in the first place?

Some of them did but it was important that the north as a whole voted strongly to remain. I voted against Brexit but hoped that enough votes for it in England would lead to them leaving.

Was it? Why?

Many nationalists don't want to be in the UK, ie. a Union with Britain. Why would they want to be in a union with 20 odd others?

That's the brainless "nationalist" hypocrisy for you, I proudly voted for Brexit and would do so hundred times over. Living in a UK out of the EU is arguably more nationalist than living in an Ireland in the EU.

I hope I'm I my grave by 50, 25 years to go

I hope you are too

at least if i die tonight i'll have seen my county win the All-Ireland unlike you, even if I was only 14 months at the time.

And the whole island would be about to exit the EU.

That's what blue shirts like to tell themselves.

9/11. I am in my 20s so I don't remember the war in Ulster, all the stuff I grew up with was mainly politicians guldering at each other in Stormont. My father always talks about the war in Ulster, people seem to think that war was something foreign pre 1969, they act as if they are the only ones who experienced war but Ulster has been a hot bed of conflict since medieval times, the only difference is that video cameras existed during this war which makes it more famous.

Immigrants would be ok if they raised their children within our heritage but they often swing the other way as the big immigrant populations seem to be in unionist towns apart from Dungannon.

Run that one again... 

There are a lot of immigrants in places like Coleraine, Ballymena and Ballymoney, the natives they associate with tend to be unionists too, they are very big into saying how they "live in the UK", they say things like "I have been in UK 2 years"

Immigrants would be ok if they raised their children within our heritage but they often swing the other way as the big immigrant populations seem to be in unionist towns apart from Dungannon.

Have you ever heard as much talk about a border in your life? You know how many times I've been across the border in 10 years? 4.
The only way a checkpoint would ever effect my life is if they put one between Derry and Antrim.

It's not all about You, you know.

Maybe your men should have thought twice about signing that treaty then, maybe if they didn't the whole island would be in the EU today and not left with this mess.

Have you ever heard as much talk about a border in your life? You know how many times I've been across the border in 10 years? 4.
The only way a checkpoint would ever effect my life is if they put one between Derry and Antrim.

[Are you aware that...]

Cúchulainn rides again.....
Only problem was he was from modern day Louth.
As someone said I've read some nonsense here over the years but trentoneill take the biscuit.

A fictional character, going off topic a wee bit.

Are you aware that...

I voted to leave the EU as I have no connection to Europe, I don't view myself as European and I believe the ever increasing European population in my region is more harmful to our heritage than a big wall on the border would be.
At the end of the day Europeans don't integrate into our Gaelic society, they are right not to as that's the way people work, the Irish in USA didn't integrate into English American society, the Gaels in Scotland didn't become Picts and lose their Gaelic culture, the Europeans in Australia didn't take up Aboriginal culture.

Ive read some bullshit on this but this post is right up there with the best of it.

Hard to know where to start on it, so maybe just try to ignore it is for the best.

Well I'd rather be abused on here than have my relatives in 200 years with Slovakian surnames.

... it is possible...

I voted to leave the EU as I have no connection to Europe, I don't view myself as European and I believe the ever increasing European population in my region is more harmful to our heritage than a big wall on the border would be.
At the end of the day Europeans don't integrate into our Gaelic society, they are right not to as that's the way people work, the Irish in USA didn't integrate into English American society, the Gaels in Scotland didn't become Picts and lose their Gaelic culture, the Europeans in Australia didn't take up Aboriginal culture.

Where do you think the feckin' Gaels came from?

Modern Antrim but I don't see your point? I am just saying that different cultural groups don't integrate into a society.

... to quote more than other other post at a time?

We can't all be as tech savvy as the East Ulster men.

Cúchulainn rides again.....
Only problem was he was from modern day Louth.
As someone said I've read some nonsense here over the years but trentoneill take the biscuit.

A fictional character, going off topic a wee bit.

I voted to leave the EU as I have no connection to Europe, I don't view myself as European and I believe the ever increasing European population in my region is more harmful to our heritage than a big wall on the border would be.
At the end of the day Europeans don't integrate into our Gaelic society, they are right not to as that's the way people work, the Irish in USA didn't integrate into English American society, the Gaels in Scotland didn't become Picts and lose their Gaelic culture, the Europeans in Australia didn't take up Aboriginal culture.

Ive read some bullshit on this but this post is right up there with the best of it.

Hard to know where to start on it, so maybe just try to ignore it is for the best.

Well I'd rather be abused on here than have my relatives in 200 years with Slovakian surnames.