The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Hound]

I obviously knew DC is not a state, but are you guys saying residents of DC don't have a vote in the presidential election?
Or just that it doesn't have senators or congressmen ?

[LeoMc]

By making DC a state could Republicans not simply respond in kind by making a republican voting city into a state?

Admission to the union requires approval by congress.  Quoth wikipedia:

The Admission to the Union Clause of the United States Constitution, often called the New States Clause, found at Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1, authorizes the Congress to admit new states into the United States beyond the thirteen already in existence at the time the Constitution went into effect.

The Constitution went into effect on June 21, 1788, after ratification by 9 of the 13 states, and the federal government began operations under it on March 4, 1789.[1] Since then, 37 states have been admitted into the Union. Each new state has been admitted on an equal footing with those already in existence.[2]

Of the 37 states admitted to the Union by Congress, all but six have been established within an existing U.S. organized incorporated territory. A state so created might encompass all or a portion of a territory. When the people of a territory or a region thereof have grown to a sufficient population and make their desire for statehood known to the federal government, in most cases Congress passed an enabling act authorizing the people of that territory or region to frame a proposed state constitution as a step toward admission to the Union. Although the use of an enabling act was a common historic practice, a number of states were admitted to the Union without one.

In many instances, an enabling act would detail the mechanism by which the territory would be admitted as a state following ratification of their constitution and election of state officers. Although the use of such an act is a traditional historic practice, a number of territories have drafted constitutions for submission to Congress absent an enabling act and were subsequently admitted. The broad outline for this process was established by the Land Ordinance of 1784 and the 1787 Northwest Ordinance, both of which predate the present U.S. Constitution.

The Admission to the Union Clause also forbids the creation of new states from parts of existing states without the consent of all the affected states and Congress. The primary intent of this caveat was to give Eastern states that still had western land claims (there were four at that time[which?]) a veto over whether their western counties could become states.[3] This clause has served the same function since, each time a proposal to partition an existing state or states has arisen.

Is Texas not a unique case though? The The Tyler-Texas treaty allowed for the creation of up to 4 more states from the existing territory!

[dec]

I obviously knew DC is not a state, but are you guys saying residents of DC don't have a vote in the presidential election?
Or just that it doesn't have senators or congressmen ?

DC residents do get a vote in the Presidential election, they do not get to elect any one to the Senate or House of Representatives (they do have a non voting member in the House)

[J70]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

[sid waddell]

I obviously knew DC is not a state, but are you guys saying residents of DC don't have a vote in the presidential election?
Or just that it doesn't have senators or congressmen ?

Residents of DC do have a vote in the presidential election

DC has 3 electoral college votes

But it has no senators

Why should it have no senators?

[sid waddell]

Trump said "Jews are only in it for themselves"

We already knew he's a raving anti-Semite and he's proved it yet again

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-quoted-as-saying-that-jews-are-only-in-it-for-themselves-1.9180593

[J70]

Trump said "Jews are only in it for themselves"

We already knew he's a raving anti-Semite and he's proved it yet again

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-quoted-as-saying-that-jews-are-only-in-it-for-themselves-1.9180593

Talk about projecting!

If ever someone was looking for a person or people who were "only in it for themselves", Trump and his family would be Exhibit A.

[J70]

I obviously knew DC is not a state, but are you guys saying residents of DC don't have a vote in the presidential election?
Or just that it doesn't have senators or congressmen ?

Residents of DC do have a vote in the presidential election

DC has 3 electoral college votes

But it has no senators

Why should it have no senators?

Or a congress person with a vote?

[sid waddell]

Trump said "Jews are only in it for themselves"

We already knew he's a raving anti-Semite and he's proved it yet again

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-quoted-as-saying-that-jews-are-only-in-it-for-themselves-1.9180593

Talk about projecting!

If ever someone was looking for a person or people who were "only in it for themselves", Trump and his family would be Exhibit A.

Literally everything about Trumpism and fascism is projection

Especially the supposed "anti-paedophilia" QAnon, and Pizzagate, I can't remember any other presidential candidate with credible claims of being a paedophile against them other than Trump

And the claims of voter fraud

Trump is planning to chuck all the mail-in votes in the trash

The warning signals about him stealing the election are at Code Red and then some, he's literally telling everybody what's going to happen, and yet nobody seems to be doing anything about it

[J70]

Trump said "Jews are only in it for themselves"

We already knew he's a raving anti-Semite and he's proved it yet again

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-quoted-as-saying-that-jews-are-only-in-it-for-themselves-1.9180593

Talk about projecting!

If ever someone was looking for a person or people who were "only in it for themselves", Trump and his family would be Exhibit A.

Literally everything about Trumpism and fascism is projection

Especially the supposed "anti-paedophilia" QAnon, and Pizzagate, I can't remember any other presidential candidate with credible claims of being a paedophile against them other than Trump

And the claims of voter fraud

Trump is planning to chuck all the mail-in votes in the trash

The warning signals about him stealing the election are at Code Red and then some, he's literally telling everybody what's going to happen, and yet nobody seems to be doing anything about it

https://thebulwark.com/the-strongman-cometh/

The internet runneth over with people who see this and are desperate to discount it. And so this is what you hear:

He's a master troll.
He can't mean it.
He probably doesn't mean it.
Even if he means it, some deus ex machina will prevent him from doing it.
And even if there's a chance—a 20 percent chance, a 2 percent chance—that Trump does mean it and that the guardrails might not hold . . .
Well, what if Joe Biden is a cyborg being controlled by Communist space-lizards?
What if the Democrats got power and raised the capital gains tax rate?
What if some future Supreme Court, in some future decade, renders a bad decision on a case that does not yet exist?
And so these people avert their eyes and hide behind euphemisms and hope to avoid the precipice without having to sacrifice their positioning.

But the precipice is here. Donald Trump just told you.

In fact, he's been telling anyone who would listen for 30 years.

Maybe he won't be able to pull it off. Maybe Roberts and Gorsuch will stand in the breach. Maybe he'll wimp out in the end because he's more of a man-baby than a strongman.

But just how much are you willing to bet on that?

Because if the answer isn't "everything," then it's time to take this man at his word.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Take him at his word!  First time for everything I suppose.

[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

[J70]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

[sid waddell]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

What brought you to America, Gmac? On the run because you were in the Glennane Gang, was it?

You haven't lost the ideology you learned there anyway

[Gmac]

Watching cnn and their talking about trump encouraging violent protests while a cop was shot in the background in Louisville, what a sc**bag news station .

Right, and if Biden was doing the talking Trump currently is celebrating a journalist being shot by police with a rubber bullet, about not accepting the election results, about not pledging a peaceful transition, and his campaign talking about certain states replacing the public's chosen electors with GOP-chosen electors, you would be on here frothing at the mouth about Biden fomenting violence.

What happened in Louisville to the cops is wrong, but so was what happened to Breonna Taylor.

Difference is that someone has been arrested and will be held accountable in one case, but not the other. In Ms. Taylor's case, its simply a case of "shit happens". Once again.

the cops were shot at first and one hit should they have ran away ?

Yes, there were no other options available. No mistakes were made, no misconduct occurred, either before, during or after the proceedings. Wildly and blindly shooting through the walls and doors of two apartments in the middle of the night and ignoring the mortally wounded victim were the only available and justifiable responses.

they were looking for a drug dealer who had this apartment listed as an address, they had a no knock warrant but they did knock and announced themselves after which they were fired at and returned fire tragically killing the innocent girl inside , my question is there are at least 10 shootings weekly we hear about where innocent people (mostly black) are shot in the crossfire including kids but none of those victims are celebrated, there are no marches , no protests. As the law stands they were justified in returning fire  except for cop who shot into another apartment.