Super 8s

Started by theticklemister, February 19, 2017, 10:55:16 PM

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Rossfan

The League us a pre the real season competition plated by teams in varied stages if preparation,  trying out new lads,  missing club championship players etc.
The Championship is the real thing.
And from the Quarter Finals on it's the even more real thing.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Syferus

#1471
Ok, two more glorified league matches in the tank - has the penny dropped? Even the official program today was talking about how 'critics panned the first weekend'..

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Rossfan on July 18, 2018, 04:06:35 PM
The League us a pre the real season competition plated by teams in varied stages if preparation,  trying out new lads,  missing club championship players etc.
The Championship is the real thing.
And from the Quarter Finals on it's the even more real thing.
Every sport should have at least two top tournaments and that would provide more "real" stuff then for the players and supporters to enjoy. The league is the best format the GAA have and should be made more important. The championship is a cup competition where the story of the underdog going on a run to remember for many years to come should be as important as the team that wins the cup. A round robin for the last eight that will now include dead rubbers is one of the many daft things GAA HQ has brought in and they will now probably try to fix this daftness with more daftness in the years ahead.


RedHand88

This super 8 system is throwing up some classics.

balladmaker

#1474
If Super 8's had been introduced 100 yrs ago, Kerry wouldn't have won 37 All Irelands.  At least the new format is exposing the unfairness of playing a couple of easy games to get to an All Ireland semi, those days are now over thankfully.

Edit: well done Kerry, still stand by the above :-)

Jinxy

Keep all three rounds away from Croke Park (excluding Dublin home game) and this could work really well.
Is there any way of eliminating dead rubbers?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Syferus

Two good matches in eight tells its own story.

trileacman

Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 05:50:51 PM
Keep all three rounds away from Croke Park (excluding Dublin home game) and this could work really well.
Is there any way of eliminating dead rubbers?

We could get apres match to do the analysis at half time in the dead rubbers?
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

twohands!!!

We could yet get a Monaghan v Kerry play-off

Galway beat Monaghan by a point.
Kerry beat Kildare by 4 points.

This would leave both Kerry and Monaghan on 3 points and a score difference of +1
Both sides highest score so far is the 1-17 both scored today (so Kerry and Monaghan would both have to score less than this in their games)
Kerry have scored 2 goals so far and Monaghan have scored 1, so Monaghan would have to get one goal in their loss to Galway and Kerry to get none.

Then play-off.

It's unlikely but not impossible.


QuoteIn the event of teams finishing on equal points in a
Quarter-Final Group, the tie shall be decided by the
following means and in the order specified:
(i) Where two Teams only are involved – the
outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the
Group
(ii) Score difference – subtracting the total Scores
against from the Scores for.
(iii) Highest Total Score For
(iv) Highest Total Goals For
(v) A Play-Off.


http://res.cloudinary.com/dvrbaruzq/image/upload/ludlpjt6lq1ywtpsy4zn.pdf


Jinxy

Fair Play Index?  :)
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Jinxy

If we had Mayo instead of Roscommon in the Super 8s there would have been some craic.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Zulu

It's proving it's worth and will be a success. You'll have bad games in any format but this format pits most of the best teams against each other and winning (or a draw) is vital in, at least, two of the three rounds.


I don't see an issue with the odd dead rubber, nobody complains that premiership games in the last few weeks may not matter when there are 3 or 4 teams in with a shout of the title. Roscommon against Dublin is not important but Donegal v Tyrone is do or die. Kildare may not be overly pushed in two weeks and Galway are through but both games will matter as nobody wants the Dublin semi final. Until someone can come up with a magical format that provides loads of competitive games that all matter then the super 8's are as good as we are likely to get in the near future.

Dinny Breen

When is the best time to play Dublin, semi final or final? Something to ponder for Kevin Walsh?
#newbridgeornowhere

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 06:27:45 PM
If we had Mayo instead of Roscommon in the Super 8s there would have been some craic.
Would have been Mayo instead of Kildare though. If Galway had lost the Connacht final would they have reached the last 4 with a game to spare if they were in a group with Donegal,Tyrone and Dublin?

More games should be done before the last eight not during it. Last eight should be an old fashion knock out championship football.

Mayo4Sam14

Funny enough if the Galway Monaghan games a draw then Monaghan are definitely through and Galway stay top
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!