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#1786
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 26, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
Its like a forum of Ewan McKenna's. Dublin have advantages yes, they always had advantages.

Say what you will but to me you are disrespecting the Dublin GAA community disrespecting the thousands of volunteers, many many form the country, the visionaries, the grassroots,  the clubs, the club players. Dublin are the same as any other county in that the GAA is grassroots and club first, to your surprise we actually don't have a factory that makes footballers, as stated before a lot of the current squad fathers played for Dublin which created natural ability and with a coach like Gavin the worlds is yours.

Its seems maybe your gripe should be with the GAA, not Dublin.

And this team is an exceptional team and wont be around forever. A lot of players going past their peak.

None of this was a problem when Dublin were not winning and getting beaten by Tyrone (7 million British tax payer money for centre of excellence) or Kerry ( sponsored by a Billionaire Euro Company , one of the biggest is Europe and the world) .

Id advise you all to spend a few days in Dublin travelling around different clubs in different areas to see what is like.

Nice of you to spout blatant lies and inaccuracies to support your argument.
#1787
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on September 25, 2016, 07:56:10 PM
I attended the Ulster  Final this year, believe me, today's game was better

Stay away from Ulster finals anymore, they sell out and we can't be doing with fellas who would rather watch womens football there taking a seat.

I doubt you'd see anything likes the point taking of display in the Ulster final from McHugh, McNiallais, Harte, Cavanagh or a hit like Monroe on McGlynn late on in a women's match, ever.
#1788
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:23:45 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 25, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 06:28:51 PM


Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.
This kind of stuff is typical of the patronising nonsense you hear so regularly during coverage, and it does the games themselves no good at all, as they can never improve if people take such an attitude.

Either treat the sport seriously and recognise that it is far below the standard it could be, or admit that you're treating it pretty much as a sporting charity case.

I prefer to treat the games seriously - the standard today was awful and if women's GAA is to ever advance it  needs to do without the ridiculous, paranoid attitude which tolerates no criticism of the standard.

I agree with everything you said there.

Utter nonsense. The standard was excellent at times with some great scores across the three games. The tackling and physicality in the senior game was brilliant. It's comparing apples and oranges to compare men's and women's sports but taken as a stand alone sport ladies football is a tremendous sport and to say the skills are awful is pure rubbish or that -

Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

- is complete nonsense. Many ladies IC footballers have played international soccer, basketball or rugby so clearly their fitness and ball skills are at an elite level. I shouldn't even be engaging with lads like ye on this as it's like arguing with a men claiming the earth is flat.

You seem to be one with his head buried in the sand about the state of ladies football.

Tiddling 20 yard frees with a size 4 ball into the keepers hands is embarrassing.

Nope but feel free to console yourself with the delusion that if you think something it must be right. Again I wouldn't have to check hard for some fairly embarrassing efforts on goal by Tyrone but we don't seem to claim our men's representatives can't play the game.

The ladies game is a stand alone sport and measured as that it is a very good one. But lads if you don't like it don't watch it. I think soccer is the most boring non-entity of sport on Gods green earth and as such I just don't watch it very often. You can do the same with ladies football if you like.

You not liking soccer probably shows you up a philistine.

You bigging up the standard of ladies gaelic football and the "huge physicality" in it probably shows you up as a raving lunatic.

Well I'm happy not to heed the opinion on the quality of sports from a supporter of the over hyped, soulless drivel that is soccer.

Cracking game in store at the Artemio Franchi this evening, but if you like the incessant screeching of 10 year old girls for an atmosphere then please yourself.
#1789
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:23:45 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 25, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 06:28:51 PM


Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.
This kind of stuff is typical of the patronising nonsense you hear so regularly during coverage, and it does the games themselves no good at all, as they can never improve if people take such an attitude.

Either treat the sport seriously and recognise that it is far below the standard it could be, or admit that you're treating it pretty much as a sporting charity case.

I prefer to treat the games seriously - the standard today was awful and if women's GAA is to ever advance it  needs to do without the ridiculous, paranoid attitude which tolerates no criticism of the standard.

I agree with everything you said there.

Utter nonsense. The standard was excellent at times with some great scores across the three games. The tackling and physicality in the senior game was brilliant. It's comparing apples and oranges to compare men's and women's sports but taken as a stand alone sport ladies football is a tremendous sport and to say the skills are awful is pure rubbish or that -

Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

- is complete nonsense. Many ladies IC footballers have played international soccer, basketball or rugby so clearly their fitness and ball skills are at an elite level. I shouldn't even be engaging with lads like ye on this as it's like arguing with a men claiming the earth is flat.

You seem to be one with his head buried in the sand about the state of ladies football.

Tiddling 20 yard frees with a size 4 ball into the keepers hands is embarrassing.

Nope but feel free to console yourself with the delusion that if you think something it must be right. Again I wouldn't have to check hard for some fairly embarrassing efforts on goal by Tyrone but we don't seem to claim our men's representatives can't play the game.

The ladies game is a stand alone sport and measured as that it is a very good one. But lads if you don't like it don't watch it. I think soccer is the most boring non-entity of sport on Gods green earth and as such I just don't watch it very often. You can do the same with ladies football if you like.

You not liking soccer probably shows you up a philistine.

You bigging up the standard of ladies gaelic football and the "huge physicality" in it probably shows you up as a raving lunatic.
#1790
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 25, 2016, 07:13:02 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM

Utter nonsense. The standard was excellent at times with some great scores across the three games. The tackling and physicality in the senior game was brilliant. It's comparing apples and oranges to compare men's and women's sports but taken as a stand alone sport ladies football is a tremendous sport and to say the skills are awful is pure rubbish or that -
On page 2 here you were saying that the standard was poor, now you're saying otherwise.

Anybody who watched the game will know that the standard was poor. Terrible shooting, poor passing, poor handling skills, lack of composure of players in possession.

Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
- is complete nonsense. Many ladies IC footballers have played international soccer, basketball or rugby so clearly their fitness and ball skills are at an elite level. I shouldn't even be engaging with lads like ye on this as it's like arguing with a men claiming the earth is flat.
Dublin tanked early in the second half as they did last year when leading by a large margin.

Cork were poor and basically stuck in the game due to Dublin's poor shooting. They have the cuteness and know how to win games but they are a shadow of even previous Cork teams.

I don't believe the standard now has advanced much, if at all since Waterford and Monaghan were contesting these games in the mid to late 90s.

The quality of the senior game in tough conditions wasn't brilliant like the men's game last weekend but both were compelling contests with huge physicality. If you read the post you quoted you'd see I said it was excellent at times across the three games.

The standard has improved dramatically since then that's not even up for debate I'd have thought.

Huge physicality??? ;D

I can't actually tell if you are on the wind up here.
#1791
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 25, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 06:28:51 PM


Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.
This kind of stuff is typical of the patronising nonsense you hear so regularly during coverage, and it does the games themselves no good at all, as they can never improve if people take such an attitude.

Either treat the sport seriously and recognise that it is far below the standard it could be, or admit that you're treating it pretty much as a sporting charity case.

I prefer to treat the games seriously - the standard today was awful and if women's GAA is to ever advance it  needs to do without the ridiculous, paranoid attitude which tolerates no criticism of the standard.

I agree with everything you said there.

Utter nonsense. The standard was excellent at times with some great scores across the three games. The tackling and physicality in the senior game was brilliant. It's comparing apples and oranges to compare men's and women's sports but taken as a stand alone sport ladies football is a tremendous sport and to say the skills are awful is pure rubbish or that -

Team sports like hockey and basketball have women's games that can be taken seriously. Even a physical sport like rugby (certainly the 7s at the Olympics and the last 15 a side World Cup) contains players who look like genuine athletes with genuine skill. These sports have women that can reasonably be called elite. Women's GAA contains neither proper athletes nor proper skill. It's miles away from being able to call itself "elite".

- is complete nonsense. Many ladies IC footballers have played international soccer, basketball or rugby so clearly their fitness and ball skills are at an elite level. I shouldn't even be engaging with lads like ye on this as it's like arguing with a men claiming the earth is flat.

You seem to be one with his head buried in the sand about the state of ladies football.

Tiddling 20 yard frees with a size 4 ball into the keepers hands is embarrassing.
#1792
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 25, 2016, 06:59:19 PM
Quote from: In hiding on September 25, 2016, 06:53:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 25, 2016, 06:46:18 PM
Listening to the radio coverage it seemed like McAliskey was quite poor for Clonoe.

Any standout peformers? Hampsey seemed to have a great game and McNulty was on the scoresheet quite regularly. Would it be fair to say that McNulty is a bigger player for Clonoe these days than McAliskey?

How did young McKernan go for Coalisland, seems to be quite highly thought of?
You should go to an odd club game. They're wile craic

I am currently based a good distance outside the county. Club games are not an option I'm afraid.
#1793
GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
September 25, 2016, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 25, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Zulu on September 25, 2016, 06:28:51 PM


Well that's the greatest load of bollocks written on here for quite some time, you should be proud of yourself. There's so much rubbish in your post that I haven't the time to respond to it bit by bit but suffice to say that there was some great football played at CP today and whatever about the quality of the last game there was huge physicality and athleticism shown by both teams.
This kind of stuff is typical of the patronising nonsense you hear so regularly during coverage, and it does the games themselves no good at all, as they can never improve if people take such an attitude.

Either treat the sport seriously and recognise that it is far below the standard it could be, or admit that you're treating it pretty much as a sporting charity case.

I prefer to treat the games seriously - the standard today was awful and if women's GAA is to ever advance it  needs to do without the ridiculous, paranoid attitude which tolerates no criticism of the standard.

I agree with everything you said there.
#1794
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 25, 2016, 06:46:18 PM
Listening to the radio coverage it seemed like McAliskey was quite poor for Clonoe.

Any standout peformers? Hampsey seemed to have a great game and McNulty was on the scoresheet quite regularly. Would it be fair to say that McNulty is a bigger player for Clonoe these days than McAliskey?

How did young McKernan go for Coalisland, seems to be quite highly thought of?
#1795
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 24, 2016, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: Club boi on September 23, 2016, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: In hiding on September 23, 2016, 11:54:13 AM
Conan Grugan did alright against clonoe, it wasn't one of his best performances. Johnny Munroe had a stinker against Greencastle,  doesn't make him a bad player. How have the current county starters and panellists done for their clubs this year. Paudi mc nulty, aiden mc crory, Richie donnelly, mc aliskey among others. Very easy to right someone off on the basis of one performance. Do you feel Barry Tierney has improved as a footballer sitting on the county bench for the past 3 years

Prime example. Barry Tierney was incredible at CHB for Omagh and nearly single handed Won Omagh their championship that year with his Goals from running from deep. Que MH an Tyrone, play him in Corner Back against O'Donaghue and he gets toasted and ripped apart for his performance in a position he wasn't used to

The Big fella from Dungannon got his call up for his out an out Full Forward performances. Was he played here or expected to chase back in Half Forward?? Same with Conlon Edendork

Tierney got roasted by O'Donoghue before starring for Omagh in their Championship win - not after.

If you're going to try and pedal an agenda then at least have your facts right.

We don't really have too many natural options at full back unfortunately.
#1796
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 21, 2016, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: Club boi on September 21, 2016, 09:22:28 AM
So your judging a player who has just returned from injury and ruling him out for league action in 5 months time ........ One of the best Club players about and consistently plays well

I'm not ruling anyone out of league action, it would be a team along the lines of what I would like to see get plenty of game time in next year's league. The half back and half forward lines are the most competitive in our squad, McNabb will need to return to his 2015 form next year if he wants to be starting. He looked very rusty this year, understandably.
#1797
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 21, 2016, 08:25:08 AM
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on September 20, 2016, 11:34:46 PM
Ronan Mc Nabb not on this selection, All star nomination in 2015.

I thought McNabb was off the pace this year which was completely understandable given he only returned to action in May after a serious injury.
#1798
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 20, 2016, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: ose 14 on September 20, 2016, 09:21:01 PM
has anyone seen any defenders. our fullbackline is shit. ruairi keenan looks in great shape possible option for middle of the park.

Would like to see Hampsey getting a run at full back in the league next year.

Felt McNamee was poor enough last year and while McCrory is a good honest player and a decent option to have I'd like to see someone who can offer a bit more get a run out last year.

What would you guys think of Rory Brennan at corner back, we have loads of half back options and I think Rory Brennan is one of those types of players who can play anywhere on the pitch. He's a good tackler,  has great pace and fitness to get up and down the pitch.

Would like to see something like this for the league:

1. Morgan
2. Rory Brennan
3. Hamspey
4. McCarron/McNamee
5. McCann
6. Burns
7. K McGeary
8. Mattie Donnelly
9. C Cavanagh
10. Sludden
11. Harte
12. R Donnelly
13. L Brennan/McCurry
14. D McNuly/N McKenna
15. McAliskey/O'Neill

What held Lee Brennan up last year was the u21 management pulling him from league games. O'Neill performed very well during the league and McCurry and McAliskey were already firmly established from the previous year. So come Championship he was firmly behind all them, he's u21 against this year so could suffer the same fate.

Hopefully Conor Meyler can shake off his injury problems as I think he can be a big player for us next year if he stays injury free.
#1799
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 20, 2016, 06:01:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on September 19, 2016, 03:47:53 PM
Surely Mickey will adapt our setup next year. If he chooses to continue the one up front policy then we deserve to stale and stagnate. There are good options out there and they should be given a fair crack of the whip.

Our scoring forwards are too light for the modern game, you can only really cater for two of McAliskey, McCurry, Brennan, Bradley and O'Neill on the pitch at any one time.

Look at the other top teams at the minute and the size of their forward lines compared to ours if we were looking at trying to get a few more scoring options in the team.
#1800
Quote from: orangeman on September 18, 2016, 10:47:50 PM
Most people are saying Dublin won't be as bad again.

But Mayo won't score 2 OGs again.


Looking forward to the replay.

Will Rock be as poor on frees again?