All-Stars 2024

[JoG2]

But for an ankle injury Armagh would have had Ethan Rafferty doing goals this year in the same style as Morgan. Hughes game has improved immensely this year and Rafferty didn't get back in. tome Morgan is the best in the country, if that is what an all star is then he deserved it. If it is based on a significant contribution to an AI win the it should have gone to Hughes.

Con O'Callaghan, David Clifford and Brian Fenton are the best players in the country.

They didn't have better 2024's than the lads who got All Stars.

Same thing here.

I'm nit picking but Con hasn't been a top 10 player for a few years now imo

Fair enough but if we're talking strictly ability wise/at their best.

But we're not, this is the 2024 All Stars, not the all time All Stars, modern footballers All Stars....

[AustinPowers]

Can't understand the Morgan  criticism. His  awareness and his long kicking is  a deadly weapon in today's ultra defensive tactics.

His pass to Canavan for that goal this year  (can't recall the opposition), and his  long ball up to McCurry in the 2021  AI final that almost resulted in a goal  showed how  his kicking can  change the game in a second.

Whether he deserved the all star over Hughes, I'm not sure , as I didn't really  see much of Tyrone's games  this year

[Armagh18]

But for an ankle injury Armagh would have had Ethan Rafferty doing goals this year in the same style as Morgan. Hughes game has improved immensely this year and Rafferty didn't get back in. tome Morgan is the best in the country, if that is what an all star is then he deserved it. If it is based on a significant contribution to an AI win the it should have gone to Hughes.

Con O'Callaghan, David Clifford and Brian Fenton are the best players in the country.

They didn't have better 2024's than the lads who got All Stars.

Same thing here.

I'm nit picking but Con hasn't been a top 10 player for a few years now imo

Fair enough but if we're talking strictly ability wise/at their best.

But we're not, this is the 2024 All Stars, not the all time All Stars, modern footballers All Stars....

Thats the point I'm making. If you're picking the 15 best players in the country on ability you'd have Clifford, Con, Fenton, Morgan (or Begann). But we aren't and Blaine should have even there instead of Morgan, not even close

[Captain Obvious]

Novelty can play a big part in the All Stars so Louth putting in a shift in a provincial final, something rarely seen in Leinster, and getting to AIQF, I can see the logic in rewarding someone from the wee county.

But Morgan is a real head scratcher. Very ordinary year for a team with pedigree and AI medals in the arse pocket and bagfulls of previous All Star awards too for the county.

Everyone keeps saying 'team'... These are individual awards. Morgan in the games he played was by a distance the best keeper in the country

He was probaly the best at everything bar stopping the ball from going into the goals.

How many goals did he concede ?

14 or so

And how many of those 14 were directly linked to him or could he have saved? Not exactly Morgan's fault that when defending we allow players to run from deep without tracking them

Thats not the point there are plenty of keepers who let in lots of goals aswell due to having poor defence in front of them.

I'm struggling to see what the criteria is. If goals conceded doesn't come into because they are the defence's fault, then presumably kick outs won don't come into either. Then is contribution to scores or what exactly is it?

Morgan is a brilliant keeper. Hughes is a level below but Hughes was a major factor in an all Ireland win and kept a previous years all star nominee out of a starting spot.

Morgan was a significant contributor to a team than underachieved.

For me if Armagh hadn't have had Hughes they wouldn't be All Ireland Champions. Had Tyrone not have had Morgan they wouldn't have finished much worse off. 

I'd agree. Hugely important player in Armagh's All Ireland success, his impact seemed to fly over the heads of the journalists that picked the goalkeeping All Star. 

[JoG2]

But for an ankle injury Armagh would have had Ethan Rafferty doing goals this year in the same style as Morgan. Hughes game has improved immensely this year and Rafferty didn't get back in. tome Morgan is the best in the country, if that is what an all star is then he deserved it. If it is based on a significant contribution to an AI win the it should have gone to Hughes.

Con O'Callaghan, David Clifford and Brian Fenton are the best players in the country.

They didn't have better 2024's than the lads who got All Stars.

Same thing here.

I'm nit picking but Con hasn't been a top 10 player for a few years now imo

Fair enough but if we're talking strictly ability wise/at their best.

But we're not, this is the 2024 All Stars, not the all time All Stars, modern footballers All Stars....

Thats the point I'm making. If you're picking the 15 best players in the country on ability you'd have Clifford, Con, Fenton, Morgan (or Begann). But we aren't and Blaine should have even there instead of Morgan, not even close

No one is but yourself and someone else though.. This is the 2024 All Stars. Hughes maybe played more games, but Morgan was better this year imo. How you come up with the 'not even close', only you will know, but it's you're opinion of course

[illdecide]

If you say anything then it sounds like sour grapes or you have orange tinted spec's on. If the panel that picked the All Stars could explain the criteria then it would clear things up. I'm not too bothered about it TBH but I would be interested to hear how they choose.
As some people have already stated if it's for the best players then Dublin and Kerry would have at the very least 3 each on the 15, with Galway having 3 too. For me Morgan is the best GAA keeper in the Country so he'd be in too, as far as I can work out there'd be 5 more positions to fill from another 29 Counties including the All Ireland Champions. When you use that logic then you cannot pick the best players from the previous few years but the best players in this current year which changes everything, as I said I won't lose any sleep over it but I would like to hear the criteria.

[From the Bunker]

Kyle Hayes got a Liveline roasting the last two days. The gist was a felon show not be rewarded with an All Star. Not sure what I thought on the topic. Found the witch-hunt uncomfortable.  But I could see merit to the argument.
Joe Duffy as usual was annoyingly righteous and in no way a neutral presenter. I would expect anything less as his show is built around drawing peoples opinions out.