All-Stars 2024

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David McKeown

Quote from: Armagh18 on September 19, 2024, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 19, 2024, 05:36:38 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on September 19, 2024, 04:52:37 PMNo disrespect to Conor Turbitt but really, an All star year!  Maybe more to do with the lack of forwards in the game reserve days that an above average one gers an all star

Top scorer from play in the All Ireland series and being talked about as a POTY contender before a quiet final. I felt his exclusion from the POTY short list is a bigger surprise than his inclusion in the All Star nomination list. That said it was very hard to separate 5 or 6 POTY candidates for me with no clear stand out
Yeah pre final i would have had him in the poty conversation with the 3 who were nominated plus Rian. Crealey and Grimley both up there as well

I would have had Conaty in the reckoning. Quiet in the semi but man of the match in both the quarter final and final as well as a strong test of the season. Easy to put him in the Young Player bracket instead
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nrico2006

You only have to look at what even gets POTY these days to see that the number of standout players is lower than it used to be.

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statto

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Quote from: lurganblue on September 19, 2024, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on September 19, 2024, 12:07:40 PM
Quote from: Mario on September 19, 2024, 11:09:20 AMDerry, the league champions, the only quarter finalists without a nomination.

By my count there are 5 nominees from counties that didn't even make the QFs, plus 9 from beaten QFs.

From a Derry perspective I thought Baker might have been in with a shout. But I'd doubt if any of the 14 (total) from above will be close to getting an All-Star.

Surprised that Campbell wasn't nominated. Think Conaty is an easy winner of YPOTY, and two nominees from Galway might pave the way for McCambridge to pick up POTY.



I didnt expect him to make the 15 but not to be included in the nominations is a very poor omission IMO.
Kileavey could pay for that this weekend.  Not sure he should have got an all start but definetly worth a nomination. 

From the list certainly he was more deserving that murtagh, aidan o shea, ROD at least imo. 

Rian O'Neill (Armagh), Conor Turbitt (Armagh), Oisín Conaty (Armagh), Rory Grugan (Armagh), Cillian McDaid (Galway), John Maher (Galway), Rob Finnerty (Galway), Shane Walsh (Galway), David Clifford (Kerry), Paudie Clifford (Kerry), Con O'Callaghan (Dublin), Cormac Costello (Dublin), Ryan O'Donoghue (Mayo), Aidan O'Shea (Mayo), Oisín Gallen (Donegal), Darragh Canavan (Tyrone), Sam Mulroy (Louth), Diarmuid Murtagh (Roscommon)

Blowitupref

Pat Spillane's 2024 All-Star Team

1. Blaine Hughes, Armagh (17 games, 14 clean sheets)

2. Aaron McKay, Armagh (Armagh's best defender all year)

3. Barry McCambridge, Armagh (Brilliant man-marker - also scored 2-5; that goal v Kerry was icing on the cake)

4. Johnny McGrath, Galway (Most consistent man-marking defender in league and championship)

5. Peadar Mogan, Donegal (Attacking wing back who scored 0-13 in this year's championship)

6. Aidan Forker, Armagh (A true inspirational leader)

7. Dylan McHugh, Galway (Mr Consistency, but a subdued final could cost him player of the year)

8. Paul Conroy, Galway (Inspirational for a man of 35, scored 2-16 from play)

9. Ben Crealey, Armagh (The assist to Campbell for McKay's goal, and that vital late turnover on Cillian McDaid)

10. Sam Mulroy, Louth (My wild card, the second highest scorer in the championship with 3-43)

11. John Maher, Galway (Powerful, strong runner - great year)

12. OisÍn Conaty, Armagh (Man of the match in the final with 0-3, 0-13 in the championship - great pace)

13. OisÍn Gallen, Donegal (Third highest championship scorer with 2-33, 1-15 from play)

14. Rian O'Neill, Armagh (Came good at the business end and such a versatile player)

15. Conor Turbitt, Armagh (Up to the final was in player of the year form, scored 3-22)

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Armagh18

Hard enough to argue with any of his picks tbh.

David McKeown

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 03, 2024, 05:47:41 PMHard enough to argue with any of his picks tbh.

Including what he called the worst inside forward line in the history of the All Stars ?
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Truthsayer

Quote from: David McKeown on October 03, 2024, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 03, 2024, 05:47:41 PMHard enough to argue with any of his picks tbh.

Including what he called the worst inside forward line in the history of the All Stars ?
Hard for forwards to shine the state of the game now. PS: who is the inside forward line? Seriously...

Armagh18

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 03, 2024, 07:12:07 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 03, 2024, 06:34:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 03, 2024, 05:47:41 PMHard enough to argue with any of his picks tbh.

Including what he called the worst inside forward line in the history of the All Stars ?
Hard for forwards to shine the state of the game now. PS: who is the inside forward line? Seriously...
Rian probably as good a player as I've seen in a long time and can play full forward not a problem but didn't this year at all.

Game is changed now for better or worse- best way to curtail a forward like Clifford or Walsh is how we did this year, cut the supply as much as possible, get bodies around them and get a sticky huer who can also go forward and make them have to work back like McCambridge did so well this year.

imtommygunn

I would say as good a talent rather than as good a player. I still think he could be 20-30% better if he got his attitude right.

thewobbler

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2024, 09:25:37 PMI would say as good a talent rather than as good a player. I still think he could be 20-30% better if he got his attitude right.

I dunno.

I mean, how much fitter / stronger can a man get than where Rian is now?

So what you're talking about surely has to then focus on the mental side of the game.

And I do wonder, would that increased focus make him more robotic or more flamboyant? I reckon the former.

f**k that. We've enough of them running around our sport.

ONeill

I think Rian is the best player in the country right now. He should have been in the POTY reckoning and I'd have bet on him.

He didn't have a vintage year for various reasons but without him, Armagh are half the team they are.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Armagh18

Would have had him in my top 3 for poty but can't begrudge any of the 3 nominated who all had super years.

For me it's not even his talent which he has in abundance, it's his leadership skills, work rate and versatility that stands out.

Look at the big moments- the free against Galway 2 years ago, the catch vs Kerry this year on his own goal line, last year vs Monaghan the screamer he scored that should have won the game, his points at times this year when we were under pressure particularly against Galway in the group game, unreal stuff.
 

imtommygunn

Quote from: thewobbler on October 03, 2024, 11:23:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2024, 09:25:37 PMI would say as good a talent rather than as good a player. I still think he could be 20-30% better if he got his attitude right.

I dunno.

I mean, how much fitter / stronger can a man get than where Rian is now?

So what you're talking about surely has to then focus on the mental side of the game.

And I do wonder, would that increased focus make him more robotic or more flamboyant? I reckon the former.

f**k that. We've enough of them running around our sport.

Nothing to do with fitness or strength. When he switches on he's as good as anyone but he drifts in and out. Great player but I honestly think there's a good bit more in him.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

An Watcher

Can anyone post thus article on here as can't access and looks a good read