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#2641
GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland day
November 10, 2015, 01:41:13 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on November 10, 2015, 01:22:06 PM
People have complained for years about soccer but in fairness UEFA has hardened up and cleaned up its act big time. None of these type of exchanges with the ref are allowed anymore. If they happen and bad language or threatening behavior is used the ref issues the proper card or sends off the culprit from the field. Plus he can have the manager removed off as well.

If parents are on the sideline giving bad language to the ref or players (especially in front of minors) the ref has the power to stop the game and force the respective management team to deal with offenders or the match could be abandoned and the offending team faces a hefty fine and possible/probable elimination from the competition.

Its high time the GAA brought in proper enforcement to protect refs, linesmen, umpires children and players. Right now it's only getting worse as was depicted again in the Kerry County final at the weekend.

Do you watch soccer?? When was the last time you seen someone carded for giving the referee a mouthful? I can honestly say I have never seen it. The GAA has the same problem - the black card was introduced for this exact problem yet is rarely used. If it was used regularly then there would be less of it in my opinion. I hate hate hate players mouthing to referees and getting free kicks moved nothing as infuriating!
#2642
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 31, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: WT4E on October 31, 2015, 09:21:33 AM
Quote from: square_ball on October 30, 2015, 10:51:35 PM
I had heard from a kildress fella that the Cookstown manager was away on holidays tomorrow so kildress agreed to move the match to Friday provided they get home advantage as opposed to a neutral venue and Cookstown agreed to that.

That Kildress fella you were talkin to was slightly wrong - cookstown asked for game to be changed alright and they offered to play it in Kildress. Kildress never made any demands they just wanted to accommodate the town. Don't think the venue would have had much influence on the result.

Rumour has it that cookstown felt they would win the game wherever it was played but that didn't happen. Good game of football played in good spirit and the tones are delighted about being the right side of the result!!!

Right maybe I picked him up wrong. Good win anyway. Seen kildress a few times last year and to be honest wouldnt have picked them to be in the promotion mix up this year. Full credit to Barry Dillon and players of course. 
#2643
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 30, 2015, 10:51:35 PM
I had heard from a kildress fella that the Cookstown manager was away on holidays tomorrow so kildress agreed to move the match to Friday provided they get home advantage as opposed to a neutral venue and Cookstown agreed to that.
#2644
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Quote from: square_ball on October 29, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2015, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: square_ball on October 29, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
Agree with a lot of what is being said. Diet is definitely key. Get the batch of chicken fillets bought from the butcher and prep your meals every few days as it makes life so much easier. If your working in an office its actually ideal as you can bring in your fruit, nuts & lunches etc and you have no excuses really. Also get the water right as well - 2 or 3 litres a day minimum. Myfitnesspal is a good app to use initially just to understand exactly what you are eating.

As the lads have said getting a good strength based gym programme will do you wonders. I'd suggest something like Crossfit as an excellent form of conditioning even though it gets a bad rap (unjustified in my opinion). This time a year you are wasting your time running on roads and treadmills.

I actually enjoy this time of year when you can get on with your own thing before team training begins again in the new year.

Very justified in my opinion. Anything that encourages people to do power or Olympic lifts as quickly as possible in the name of competition is a no no in my books.

That seems to be the stick that Crossfit gets beat with. People seem to have this notion that every workout involves 50 x snatch and 50 x clean & jerk where the experience that i have had with it couldnt be any different. Those lifts are coached and coached very well might I add. Very rarely are they used in a workout and if they are they are very low reps. For things like squat, deadlift and other lifts you are actually coached as well as placing a high emphasis on flexibility and mobility. As i say in my experience it is an excellent form conditioning and for me I was never fitter when I did it.

Out of interest Gallsman have you tried it before? Don't get me wrong I'm not saying CrossFit is the be all and end all by any means just interested in your views on it if you have tried it?

Yes, I have tried it before and I don't like it for the reasons stated above. Coaching varies wildly - perhaps you've hit the jackpot and had a great coach, but plenty of others haven't. I'm not aure about now, but at least up until last year you could become an accredited CrossFit coach in absolutely no time at all.

Not all WODs have mad numbers of reps on dangerous lifts, but plenty of them do and the (encouraged) competitive aspect of it (trying to do things as quickly as possible, or establish a max within a time limit) risks people not preparing properly for lifts and consequently risking serious injury.

On top of all that, it's an absolute f**king rip off.

Fair points - I do agree on the high reps/for time etc. it is a recipe for disaster when technique starts to go when fatigue sets in.

In terms of cost I would argue it doesn't really cost that much more than a gym membership (again maybe just my experience) and comparing it to PTs (also takes no time to get that piece of paper) who charge upwards £30 for an hours session then its value for my money in my book

We'll agree to disagree anyway on it. As i said previously it's whatever people enjoy doing and what works best for themselves.
#2645
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 01:19:02 PM
Oh definitely Olympic lifts can be a recipe for disaster they are very technical and very difficult to master. Give me a squat or deadlift any day of the week.

Everyone seems to be turning their hand to personal training these days and the prices can be  extortionate for what you actually get.

there does seem to be a serious amount of gym work being done by GAA club teams. I personally think it's great compared to years gone by when it was laps of the pitch etc!
#2646
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: No1 on October 29, 2015, 11:00:41 AM
Gallsman & square_ball, I'd be interested in hearing more of your views on Crossfit. I've heard a few different opinions and am still unsure. The only thing I know for sure is that it's expensive!

See my responses to the other posts. As i said its not the be all and end all of fitness but its something I enjoy and worked for me. It does come down to quality of coaching but that goes for anything fitness related. In terms of being expenses yeah i guess it is if you take the figures on their own but compare it to PTs who are charge £20 to £30 per session as well as gym membership on top of that then it isn't really.
#2647
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on October 29, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2015, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: square_ball on October 29, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
Agree with a lot of what is being said. Diet is definitely key. Get the batch of chicken fillets bought from the butcher and prep your meals every few days as it makes life so much easier. If your working in an office its actually ideal as you can bring in your fruit, nuts & lunches etc and you have no excuses really. Also get the water right as well - 2 or 3 litres a day minimum. Myfitnesspal is a good app to use initially just to understand exactly what you are eating.

As the lads have said getting a good strength based gym programme will do you wonders. I'd suggest something like Crossfit as an excellent form of conditioning even though it gets a bad rap (unjustified in my opinion). This time a year you are wasting your time running on roads and treadmills.

I actually enjoy this time of year when you can get on with your own thing before team training begins again in the new year.

Very justified in my opinion. Anything that encourages people to do power or Olympic lifts as quickly as possible in the name of competition is a no no in my books.

Always had an issue with this.. the thing about Crossfit is that it is a sport... this is where people go wrong from what I can see. You should use whatever millions of training regimes that are out there - to then go and compete at Crossfit, just like a Pro Weight lifter would train to then go out on competition day and push to the limit with very real chance of doin damage... but to use Crossfit as a training tool is not smart in my opinion... Absolutely train for Crossfit and then compete if that's your thing, but I wouldn't use Crossfit as a training regime... Unless ur Rich Froning.. then u can do whatever the frig you want

Again I would tend to disagree with that. The crossfit gym that I go to very few of them compete - its a form of exercise they enjoy doing. And I think that's what it is ultimately all about - if you enjoy Crossfit do it, if you enjoy bums and tums class do that or if you enjoy pounding a treadmill for an hour do that. In my experience from a GAA background I found it to be an excellent conditioning tool for getting fitter, faster and stronger. But i would recommend trying it rather than going on what you read and watch on the internet - i think you will find its a lot different that what you might imagine.
#2648
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2015, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: square_ball on October 29, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
Agree with a lot of what is being said. Diet is definitely key. Get the batch of chicken fillets bought from the butcher and prep your meals every few days as it makes life so much easier. If your working in an office its actually ideal as you can bring in your fruit, nuts & lunches etc and you have no excuses really. Also get the water right as well - 2 or 3 litres a day minimum. Myfitnesspal is a good app to use initially just to understand exactly what you are eating.

As the lads have said getting a good strength based gym programme will do you wonders. I'd suggest something like Crossfit as an excellent form of conditioning even though it gets a bad rap (unjustified in my opinion). This time a year you are wasting your time running on roads and treadmills.

I actually enjoy this time of year when you can get on with your own thing before team training begins again in the new year.

Very justified in my opinion. Anything that encourages people to do power or Olympic lifts as quickly as possible in the name of competition is a no no in my books.

That seems to be the stick that Crossfit gets beat with. People seem to have this notion that every workout involves 50 x snatch and 50 x clean & jerk where the experience that i have had with it couldnt be any different. Those lifts are coached and coached very well might I add. Very rarely are they used in a workout and if they are they are very low reps. For things like squat, deadlift and other lifts you are actually coached as well as placing a high emphasis on flexibility and mobility. As i say in my experience it is an excellent form conditioning and for me I was never fitter when I did it.

Out of interest Gallsman have you tried it before? Don't get me wrong I'm not saying CrossFit is the be all and end all by any means just interested in your views on it if you have tried it?
#2649
General discussion / Re: Gym
October 29, 2015, 10:48:49 AM
Agree with a lot of what is being said. Diet is definitely key. Get the batch of chicken fillets bought from the butcher and prep your meals every few days as it makes life so much easier. If your working in an office its actually ideal as you can bring in your fruit, nuts & lunches etc and you have no excuses really. Also get the water right as well - 2 or 3 litres a day minimum. Myfitnesspal is a good app to use initially just to understand exactly what you are eating.

As the lads have said getting a good strength based gym programme will do you wonders. I'd suggest something like Crossfit as an excellent form of conditioning even though it gets a bad rap (unjustified in my opinion). This time a year you are wasting your time running on roads and treadmills.

I actually enjoy this time of year when you can get on with your own thing before team training begins again in the new year.