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#1
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
April 10, 2025, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: WT4E on April 10, 2025, 04:00:45 PMWhat happened naming the team on a Thursday night to get the caht going about the match. Also why do we not list any clubs on social media posts of teams???

Is it not always named at the Club Tyrone members night before the first round of the championship?
#2
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 10, 2025, 04:29:40 PMIs the semi-final pairing decided by a draw from quarter finalist winners or are they already decided?


I read somewhere that Derry play the winners of Tyrone v Armagh.
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Colleges
April 10, 2025, 05:39:19 PM
Quote from: lenny on April 10, 2025, 02:14:34 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on April 10, 2025, 01:20:03 PMWould be very surprised if a result was overturned due to a referee error.
I don't ever remember that happening in any circumstances at any level.


Not sure if there's been an error here or not. Spoke to someone who was at the game and he said the problem originated from a Maghera point which went on the scoreboard as an Omagh point. The ref noticed it and went to the sideline to get it corrected. Problem was it wasn't updated until the next Omagh point which was then awarded to Maghera which corrected the earlier error. Many in the crowd hadn't picked up on the earlier mistake. Should be a tasty replay.

From someone who was at the game myself, there 100% was an error.
#4
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
April 09, 2025, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on April 09, 2025, 08:11:40 PMSome comeback from Maghera in the Oisin McGrath final , they were 7 points down with 2 minutes of normal time and came back to draw ( no idea if there is extra time or a replay)

In fairness, they were beat by two, but the ref has got the score wrong. I'm not sure how it will work out. The game was videoed, and Maghera were aware they were beat.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
April 01, 2025, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 31, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCouldnt take the odd slap in a game himself

For all Joe's issues, and he has many, that was never one of them.
#6
Quote from: thebigfullforward on March 04, 2025, 08:04:42 AM
Quote from: PMG1 on March 03, 2025, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on March 03, 2025, 12:16:58 PMA question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.
In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc
Is this the case throughout underage? Was at a game at the weekend and the opposition team left a forward standing behind the keeper on every kickout. Granted it was a tanking match so maybe the ref didn't care to much

That's allowed in the rules for all age groups including Senior. The only change from the rules applied at Senior is for U14 age group.
#7
Quote from: PMG1 on March 03, 2025, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on March 03, 2025, 12:16:58 PMA question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.
In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

The rules I explained are the rules in Tyrone as I think that's where tbrick's lad plays. What do you mean by the 20m arc?
#8
Neither referee is correct on this. You do not need to be outside the 40m arc for kickouts, nor does the ball need to travel outside the 40m arc before the ball can be touched by the team taking the kickout.

The ball must be kicked from the centre of the 20m line and travel forwards 13m. ie it cant be touched inside the 13 arc/D.

The only difference from the old rules is that players from either team may remain inside the 20m line but cannot touch the ball and must be 13m from the player taking the restart.

Before anyone jumps on this, these are U14 rules set by a particular county. Each county has the power to set their own for underage.
#9
Quote from: tbrick18 on March 03, 2025, 12:16:58 PMA question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

Which arc are you referring to? The 13m or 40m?
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025
February 01, 2025, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 01, 2025, 06:41:41 PMG that looked the most straight forward penalty with the ref 5m away.

As clear a penalty as you'll ever see.
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 21, 2025, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on January 21, 2025, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 21, 2025, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 08:39:12 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on January 20, 2025, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on January 19, 2025, 05:02:49 PMTwo giant Dublin super clubs win the club All Irelands.
All that volunteering is paying off for them.

Errigal must be the equivalent Tyrone super club
4 parishes, 4 x adult teams
Wonder what the population difference is though. I'd imagine Cuala are based in a well built up area in terms of housing

Cuala website say they have over 3,200 members and a wide catchment area. Total population of ballygawley is 700. Not sure of how many would be classed as within the errigal catchment
https://tyronegaa.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Convention24Final_comp.pdf page 85 says Errigal have just under 600 playing members

If comparing like for like, Errigal have over 1000 members. Considering that's for only two codes, it's a very large club membership.
Where are you getting 1000 from out of interest?

850 odds with GAA. Add LGFA on top of that.
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
January 21, 2025, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 03:13:04 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on January 21, 2025, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 08:39:12 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on January 20, 2025, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on January 19, 2025, 05:02:49 PMTwo giant Dublin super clubs win the club All Irelands.
All that volunteering is paying off for them.

Errigal must be the equivalent Tyrone super club
4 parishes, 4 x adult teams
Wonder what the population difference is though. I'd imagine Cuala are based in a well built up area in terms of housing

Cuala website say they have over 3,200 members and a wide catchment area. Total population of ballygawley is 700. Not sure of how many would be classed as within the errigal catchment
https://tyronegaa.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Convention24Final_comp.pdf page 85 says Errigal have just under 600 playing members

If comparing like for like, Errigal have over 1000 members. Considering that's for only two codes, it's a very large club membership.
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Colleges
January 21, 2025, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 21, 2025, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 21, 2025, 12:00:52 PMJust took a look through the Omagh CBS team and it doesn't look overly impressive. Is there many from last year stayed on? Think I seen maybe 4 or 5. Probably don't pay enough attention to the underage club football than I should so not sure on how good they are but looked to be a drop off in quality

Why would anyone expect more than 4-5 players to carry through from one MacRory season to the next?
Did Omagh not have that happen last year where they were able to field players from the year previous? I didn't expect 15 starters to all be playing again but maybe 7 or 8 from the starting 15 and bench would be available

Yeah they did, hence back to back Macrory/Hogans. I don't think their team this year had any success at any level coming up through the school and looking at their team/panel they had a good number of Y12's included.
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Colleges
January 20, 2025, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 20, 2025, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 20, 2025, 01:23:33 PM
Quote from: statto on January 20, 2025, 01:19:48 PMAny confirmation of dates/venues for semis?

armagh v maghera in athletic grounds this sunday
not a great neutral venue that. whats wrong with healy park ?

Sure was that Omagh game not in Healy park?  And the St Pats v Abbey match was in the Athletic Grounds.  I thought both of those selections were very strange too.

Quarters not neutral venues.
#15
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
December 03, 2024, 01:35:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 03, 2024, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 03, 2024, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: Saffron71 on December 02, 2024, 09:36:00 PMQuery for anyone who might know this.  Am I right in saying that at senior level in terms of membership if pay for membership for your parent club who only provide one code (Say Football for example) do you still have to pay membership of another club that you are sanctioned for to play the other code (eg Hurling)?  And in woman's sport (Camogie and Ladies football) if someone was in the same situation ie playing Camogie for one club and football for another they would have to pay membership for both clubs because of the two different associations??

I can't comment with regard to the football/hurling at senior level but at underage I have to pay two memberships. This wasn't a sanction though, our club doesn't offer hurling so lads play elsewhere. The camogie/football in different clubs, you need to pay both as they are completely different organisations. As my kids have got older and played a variety of different sports I have realised the value of a GAA membership.   

Do you pay these memberships via Foireann?

All associations are on Foireann and when creating your profile and family details you pick the main association per person, i.e. all my boys are the GAA and the girls are the Camogie Association.


If the club your lads are sanctioned to play hurling for ask for a membership fee from them, then that's their decision but your lads would still be insured under the football clubs membership.



Yeah all paid via Foireann for football, hurling, camogie and LGFA. The football for the boys and girls is at their home club and the hurling/camogie at a neighbouring club. No sanction involved. Tbh I don't begrudge a penny of it.