Premier League 2023-2024

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general_lee

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2023, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
If playing careers are measured by longevity then of course Giggs wins out. But Bale was a level above Giggs. Bale is a step below Ronaldo, Messi territory. Somewhere alongside Iniesta, Modric, Mattheus, Van Basten. Rooney might make that tier too. Giggs is below that .
Think people often underrate how good Giggs was at his best as a winger, maybe due to the fact they view him as someone who just had a long career rather than on his merits as a player. He's up there with any of them imo.
Giggs played under SAF for vast majority of his career and people seem to neglect the fact that Sir Alex could and did get the very best out of his players. Would Giggs have been the same player had he moved clubs a few times?

Armagh18

Quote from: general_lee on January 10, 2023, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2023, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
If playing careers are measured by longevity then of course Giggs wins out. But Bale was a level above Giggs. Bale is a step below Ronaldo, Messi territory. Somewhere alongside Iniesta, Modric, Mattheus, Van Basten. Rooney might make that tier too. Giggs is below that .
Think people often underrate how good Giggs was at his best as a winger, maybe due to the fact they view him as someone who just had a long career rather than on his merits as a player. He's up there with any of them imo.
Giggs played under SAF for vast majority of his career and people seem to neglect the fact that Sir Alex could and did get the very best out of his players. Would Giggs have been the same player had he moved clubs a few times?
If your granny had balls and all that lol

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2023, 12:03:20 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 10, 2023, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2023, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
If playing careers are measured by longevity then of course Giggs wins out. But Bale was a level above Giggs. Bale is a step below Ronaldo, Messi territory. Somewhere alongside Iniesta, Modric, Mattheus, Van Basten. Rooney might make that tier too. Giggs is below that .
Think people often underrate how good Giggs was at his best as a winger, maybe due to the fact they view him as someone who just had a long career rather than on his merits as a player. He's up there with any of them imo.
Giggs played under SAF for vast majority of his career and people seem to neglect the fact that Sir Alex could and did get the very best out of his players. Would Giggs have been the same player had he moved clubs a few times?
If your granny had balls and all that lol
If your  granny had balls it would be a transgender these days

quit yo jibbajabba

Just going back to Bale - it was his 25th Prem appearance before he got his first win for Spurs. Quite the stat

Full of useless info i am

imtommygunn

Spurs never won a game with him at left back if I mind right. Moved to left wing and never looked back. Hugely talented footballer but was never too sure on his attitude.

seafoid

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gareth-bale-net-worth-business-25932906

Roberts, who is now assistant manager at Crystal Palace, told The Athletic: "They joked during the Euros that they wanted Gareth to buy a Welsh club lower down. It was Merthyr (who play in the seventh tier of the English league system), actually.

"Everyone would sign for him and take them all the way through the pyramid to the Premier League, so they could all play together every week. That's how close they were — they didn't want to just do it during the international breaks, they wanted to be together every day of the week."


Armagh18

Quote from: imtommygunn on January 10, 2023, 08:57:41 PM
Spurs never won a game with him at left back if I mind right. Moved to left wing and never looked back. Hugely talented footballer but was never too sure on his attitude.
His attitude just wasn't there later on. Look at the Wales. Golf. Madrid. Sign he had. Didnt give a shite about Madrid and don't really blame him either, fans there never took to him.

Milltown Row2

Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

AustinPowers

Quote from: general_lee on January 10, 2023, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 10, 2023, 12:07:28 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
If playing careers are measured by longevity then of course Giggs wins out. But Bale was a level above Giggs. Bale is a step below Ronaldo, Messi territory. Somewhere alongside Iniesta, Modric, Mattheus, Van Basten. Rooney might make that tier too. Giggs is below that .
Think people often underrate how good Giggs was at his best as a winger, maybe due to the fact they view him as someone who just had a long career rather than on his merits as a player. He's up there with any of them imo.
Giggs played under SAF for vast majority of his career and people seem to neglect the fact that Sir Alex could and did get the very best out of his players. Would Giggs have been the same player had he moved clubs a few times?

Always thought  Giggs was hugely overrated as  a winger.  Too easily pushed off the ball  and always yapping for frees.  He  tended to perform well  when the team  was winning handy.  I preferred him  playing in the last few years ,  when the team needed  something , he came on to thread  an important pass or two from centre midfield

snoopdog

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
He was never a flop. Had a couple poor seasons. Played with a shoulder injury for nearly 2 seasons. He is never going to be prolific but he is flying at the moment.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: snoopdog on January 10, 2023, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
He was never a flop. Had a couple poor seasons. Played with a shoulder injury for nearly 2 seasons. He is never going to be prolific but he is flying at the moment.

I jest but he was definitely distracted for long periods
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Wildweasel74

Bale a way better footballer than Giggs was.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 10, 2023, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
He was never a flop. Had a couple poor seasons. Played with a shoulder injury for nearly 2 seasons. He is never going to be prolific but he is flying at the moment.

I jest but he was definitely distracted for long periods
By his other work maybe

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on January 11, 2023, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 10, 2023, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
He was never a flop. Had a couple poor seasons. Played with a shoulder injury for nearly 2 seasons. He is never going to be prolific but he is flying at the moment.

I jest but he was definitely distracted for long periods
By his other work maybe

Southgate benched him. Talk about not knowing what you are doing.

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on January 11, 2023, 10:35:04 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 11, 2023, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 10, 2023, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2023, 09:55:47 PM
Rashford has turned from a flop to star  ;)
He was never a flop. Had a couple poor seasons. Played with a shoulder injury for nearly 2 seasons. He is never going to be prolific but he is flying at the moment.

I jest but he was definitely distracted for long periods
By his other work maybe

Southgate benched him. Talk about not knowing what you are doing.
In fairness he was shite for 2 years and probably lucky to be in the squad at all.