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I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal or Armagh, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick or Cork , unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo , unless Cork beat Kildare.


What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out
Edit 5:  Getting clearer now...

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare

Galway v Donegal or Armagh

Dublin v Limerick or Cork

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo

Although latest story is they forgot to put this procedure in the overall plan for 2022, so it's looking like an open draw with no repeat pairings if possible.

Edit 13June before official draw.

Predictions only on this thread, folks.

Start a thread for the individual games for any further discussion.

Thanks.

I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon*, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal*, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick*, unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare*, unless Cork beat Kildare.

* = or the team that beats them

What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out

So either Mayo beating Donegal or Cork beating Kildare will upset this theory.  Will see where the draw tomorrow morning leaves us.

How is that theory holding up now?

Soo.... If we beat Donegal we'll play Galway? Roll on this weekend!

If Gaaboardmod's info is correct yes.

But QF is an open draw? As far as I know Derry can face anyone that comes through these qualifiers apart from Donegal. Unless the mod is suggesting the draw is fixed?

But then Dublin can't play Kildare, Limerick/Cork can't play Kerry etc...

What I'm suggesting is that the preferred system for the quarter finals is the way it works for the minors every year, with the same provinces matched up each year.  So this year Ulster and Connacht are paired...Ulster champion v Connacht runner-up or the team that beats them and vice versa.  Same with Leinster and Munster. 

Week 9 fixtures, 4 games at neutral venues:

Roscommon v Clare
Limerick v Cork

Kildare v Mayo
Donegal v Armagh


EDIT: Limerick V Cork in Cork per agreement between both counties

RULE 5 - AGGRESSIVE FOULS

Category 1 Infractions

Definition of a Category I Infraction - Being ordered off on foot of either a second Cautionable Infraction or a
Cautionable Infraction followed by a Cynical Behaviour Infraction (In Football).

Category 1 – Related Infractions

5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

5.2 To prevent or attempt to prevent an opponent from lifting or kicking the ball off the ground by striking
an opponent's hand, arm, foot or leg with the boot.

5.3 To engage in any other form of rough play.

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS –
(i) Caution offender; order off for second cautionable foul
(ii) Free kick from where foul occurred except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2.


Above is from the rule book 2022.  You might think the important part of  5.1 is "...when an opponent is kicking...".  And the important part of that is the definition of "is".  When does the kicking action stop?  When the ball has left the kicker's boot, like what is used to interpret the offside rule in soccer? 

Clearly, a block on the ball at the same time as the kicker makes contact with the ball is dangerous.  But once the ball has left the kicker's boot, it would seem that the rule says that blocking with the foot is ok. 

Finally, if Mayo did get a penalty, shouldn't the Monaghan player have been booked, per 5.3 (i) above?  If he wasn't...and I don't think he was...then the ref doesn't fully know the rule either. 

So when does "is kicking" become "has kicked" is the difference is whether a foot block is illegal or not.  In my mind, a kicking action is over when the kicking foot is back on the ground, by which time the ball can be a significant distance away, so that's hardly good enough for a defender. 

I defer to David McKeown and his legal mind and experience for an interpretation.

I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon*, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal*, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick*, unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare*, unless Cork beat Kildare.

* = or the team that beats them

What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out

So either Mayo beating Donegal or Cork beating Kildare will upset this theory.  Will see where the draw tomorrow morning leaves us.

Week 9 draw tomorrow morning, so I'll post the fixtures at that time.

By the way, Week 9 features Rd 2 of the All-Ireland Championship between the 4 provincial losers and the 4 winners from Rd 1 this weekend.

These 4 games plus the Quarter finals (4 games), semi finals (2 games) and Final (1 game) = 11 senior games left.

Add in 2 Tailteann Cup semifinals and the final means 14 games left in the season, unless a replay in the final.

Plenty of games to make a run up the Leaderboard.

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Leaderboard after Week 8:

49: cloneman, Farrandeelin
48: Hoof Hearted, JoG2
46: maigheo, oakleaflad, Tatler Jack,
45: Ed Ricketts, Fionntamhnach, J70, redhander, Substandard

44: bigarsedkeeper, Dreadnought, The Boy Wonder
43: clubman21, Milltown Row 2, Oraisteach, The Trap, twohands!!!
42: imtommygunn, sligoman2
41: An Astrail, Ball Hopper, Blowitupref, Orior, Rossfan, Rudi
40: Fear ón Srath Bán, Itchy, phpearse, seafoid, Taylor, weareros

39: donelli, Hound, PMG1
38: FermGael, ONeill, SHEEDY
37: AustinPowers, BennyHarp, Brick Tamlin, pbat, tbrick18
36: Armagh18, David McKeown, keeperlit, laceer
35: Muck Savage, rrhf
34: toby47
33: Shamrock Shore
28: rosnarun

Everybody below that has missed 2 or more weeks.


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Week 8 results:

11: bigarsedkeeper, cloneman, JoG2, oakleaflad, pbat, redhander, sligoman2
10: Ed Ricketts, Hoof Hearted, Rossfan, Taylor
9: An Astrail, Brick Tamlin, Dreadnought, Farrandeelin, J70, Orior, Substandard, Tatler Jack, tbrick18, The Boy Wonder, greensandgold1

8: Fionntamhnach, Hound, Itchy, keeperlit, maigheo, Milltown Row 2, Muck Savage, phpearse
7: Armagh18, Ball Hopper, Blowitupref, clubman21, David McKeown, donelli, FermGael, laceer, Oraisteach, PMG1, Rudi, SHEEDY, twohands!!!, weareros

6: BennyHarp, imtommygunn, ONeill, rrhf
5: AustinPowers, seafoid, Shamrock Shore, The Trap
3: Fear ón Srath Bán


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Edit 1: Added 1 to Austin Powers

Sunday's results:

Armagh 1-16 Tyrone 1-10 - 12 picked Armagh and 2 get the margin bonus point, pbat and Ed Ricketts
Sligo 1-19 Leitrim 2-16, Sligo win after penalties - 21 picked Sligo and 14 get the margin bonus point
Cavan 2-16 Fermanagh 0-13 - 51 picked Cavan and 13 get the margin bonus point
Westmeath 1-21 Carlow 2-13 - 52 picked Westmeath and 23 get the margin bonus point

Saturday Results:

Mayo 1-13 Monaghan 0-12 - 43 picked Mayo and 18 get the margin bonus point
Clare 1-11 Meath 1-9 - 35 picked Clare and 29 get the margin bonus point
Cork 2-12 Louth 2-8  - 38 picked Cork and 18 get the margin bonus point
Offaly 3-17 New York 0-11 - 52 picked Offaly and 3 get the margin bonus point

Top Scorers today, with 7 points out of a max 8, are Farrandeelin and Rossfan.  11 got 6 points and 12 got 5.

Week 8 has 52 entrants and the prediction tallies are as follows:

Mayo 42-10
Clare 34-18
Cork 38-14
Tyrone 41-11

Leitrim 32-20
Cavan 50-2
Westmeath 51-1
Offaly 52-0

With four games today, expect an update tonight.

I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon*, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal*, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick*, unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare*, unless Cork beat Kildare.

* = or the team that beats them

What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?

Good to see Armagh out already .

Read it again and show where Armagh are out.  Armagh doesn't get mentioned as there is no scenario where they are involved that will disrupt the QF fixtures.

There are no restrictions mentioned for the Rd 2 games, so Armagh can meet Donegal again.  Then again, it would be typical of HQ to change the Rd 2 draw to eliminate such repeating fixtures.

Or would you prefer the sentence:  Derry v Roscommon or the team that beats them, unless it's Monaghan or Tyrone that beat Roscommon.

I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal or Armagh, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick or Cork , unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo , unless Cork beat Kildare.


What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out
Edit 5:  Getting clearer now...

All free kicks and sideline kicks must go forward.