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Rangers have just hoisted the white flag by looks of it.

White Flag and filled the keks

Saw the boul Neil in Slane, wasn't a big fan funny enough.

Harvest Moon
For what it's worth (Buffalo Springfield)
Heart of gold

2 time penalty Kick champs, Fact. Vinny Corey had the decency to acknowledge it after Monaghan beat Armagh. Derry got the cups* tho.

If you follow Linehan and the likes, the debate is much wider than transgender rights and womens' rights being trampled on tho, its also about young people (some highly vulnerable) transitioning at  immature ages, unnecessary surgeries, puberty blockers. Some dangerous stuff becoming orthodoxy.

Wanting to discuss it in a reasonable manner is not anti anything either. That has been a huge part of the problem, debate being shut down, people being black balled & vilified for daring to question anything.

[That said I think he also deserves criticism for an ultra conservative approach to games against good teams.]

Is it really? Most counties have goals at the start of the year, get promoted, avoid relegation, beat neighbours etc. do they really need a coping mechanism of devaluing competitions, I seriously doubt it.  There are about 26 counties under the new system never going win Sam, Derry don't need another Ulster but will probably win it, any other county would relish it.

I believe JoG2 was referring the fans attempting to devalue a competition as a defense mechanism for if they don't win it. Armagh will have failed this year (again) if they do not win Ulster. How anyone can think different is beyond me.

Armagh will have failed agreed, Armagh will continue to fail until the County Board grows a set and get rid of McGeeney but they aren't devaluing it.  Who's these fans devaluing it two people on a discussion board, most counties would love to win Ulster, doubt Fermanagh, Antrim and Monaghan are sitting there thinking as sure it means nothing.

Would be a failure for Armagh not to reach the Ulster final. Derry will be strong favourites to win the final should they reach it.  Armagh comfortably bounced back to Div 1 and in 2025 will be their 4th year in the last 5 years to play in Div 1 and the last two years they reached the All Ireland quarter final only losing out on penalty shootouts.

Would another manager have got much more out of Armagh than McGeeney has? I highly doubt it when you consider Armagh haven't won U20/21 Ulster title since 2007 and U17/18 Ulster title since 2009 plus club football especially Crossmaglen hasn't been as strong as they use to be.

theres an opinion within Armagh that we have left behind an Ulster and at least one AISF in the last 2 years due to the negative tactics we have seen. So maybe another manager might, and I stress might, have achieved more than McGeeney. Or we could have got thumped in all those games

It's a tough one for me. I think Geezer deserves a lot of credit for building a strong squad with 23/24 players who I would consider all to be good inter county footballers albeit without too many superstars.

That said I think he also deserves criticism for an ultra conservative approach to games against good teams. Is that because

a he doesn't think Armagh are good enough to go toe to toe with a big team.

B Armagh are not good enough and he's trying to cover weaknesses

Or

C He lacks the ability to take Armagh to the next level.

For me the jury is still out. I would love to see us really go for teams with a fast flowing direct style of attack that we showed in some games over the last three years (Dublin at Croke Park for example). That way I think Armagh and Geezer could be fairly analysed.

If you listen to Monday's GAA Social Podcast, you'll hear Paddy Burns saying that they're sent out to play attacking football every game, and for some reason it doesn't come to pass every time ... he was adamant Kieran McGeeney sends them out to attack, attack, attack. 

I was surprised that that was news to Niblock and Murphy tbh, I've heard or read that in the papers b4 on more than one occasion as well. I don't believe it tbh.

The way Armagh finished off against Fermanagh is our standard response, try to win pulling up, keep our next opponents guessing. I've mentioned it a few times before but  IMO Armagh always have to win not showing our full hand, we always like to think there's more in the tank for the next day, we always do it until we're found out and then there are no more next days.  I, along the rest of the county, would like to see us play to the full of our potential at all times, no need for shadow boxing/ mind games bollox that nobody cares about outside of the Armagh backroom team.  I think our approach is a major flaw in our mentality tbh, but it seems really ingrained at this stage and will only change with a new manager.

But it was only Fermanagh, so .....

I hope we don't have to tell Benny a third time about the Aberdeen game.

Lol, I did miss that 😅

Glad to see Hearts at home, Kilmarnock away is potential squeaky bum tho - as is Aberdeen away this weekend.

I put KPIs in the overused words thread last week. A term that will very soon lose any meaning in sporting terms - bar becoming a form of ridicule.

In a full stadium, in a competitive game, with the crowd's dander up he gets a red.

Saturday Night Live's Beavis & Butthead parody is an instant classic

Post split fixtures not out yet. Aberdeen away next weekend is the last - should concentrate the minds!

3.1 to Ross County 20mins left

Has there been a bit of a sea change in general opinion? Seems to be a bit of common sense entering the debates - previously dismissed or shut down debates  imo.

The average person has common sense with these freaks. But they get called out for it so are afraid to say much.

I certainly don't view trans people as freaks. Trans rights shouldn't trump womens' rights tho (& their right to feel safe in women only areas), that seemed to be the road it was hurtling down for a long time. A section of the trans movement appear to not want to assimilate into society either. I don't care if they want to assimilate or not but I don't think society should have to put up with some of their outrageous nonsense either. They should have equality in society, they should also respect others in society.

Has there been a bit of a sea change in general opinion? Seems to be a bit of common sense entering the debates - previously dismissed or shut down debates  imo.