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« Reply #10230 on: June 15, 2022, 02:56:39 PM »
I wonder how long the latest alliance of the rogues, the tory party and the DUP, can last?  I suppose the safe bet is the DUP ("won't get fooled again") will end up being chucked into yet another cesspit.
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« Reply #10231 on: June 15, 2022, 03:23:10 PM »
I wonder how long the latest alliance of the rogues, the tory party and the DUP can last?  I suppose the safe bet is the DUP ("won't get fooled again") will end up being chucked into yet another cesspit.

DUP sticking by Boris rather like a downtrodden housewife staying with a philandering husband, which isn't a bad analogy really..

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« Reply #10232 on: June 15, 2022, 04:31:46 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/1738957b-41d0-46f0-a8bb-fa7b3979dda5

As Sam McBride, Northern Ireland editor of the Belfast Telegraph, told a seminar this week: “If they do go back into government and they are betrayed by Boris Johnson, I think it’s potentially . . . the end of the DUP as a serious force”. 
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« Reply #10233 on: June 15, 2022, 04:33:14 PM »
The Rwanda thing is a media spectacle. Seen to be hard on immigration without doing anything.
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« Reply #10234 on: June 15, 2022, 08:33:27 PM »
https://ft.com/content/2a11d759-36ba-488b-87af-cf8f6c636c20… 

Truss, a Remainer in the 2016 EU referendum, proposed in late March — with her eye on Johnson’s slipping crown — unilateral legislation to rewrite key parts of the Brexit treaty. “The ERG was driving it,” said one former Tory cabinet minister
The ERG wanted a permanent solution. For the Eurosceptics it was not just about fixing the border friction but also — as they saw it — “completing” Brexit: ending all remaining EU sway over Northern Ireland. Downing Street said this week that the legislation provided a “stable solution”, including reducing the role of the ECJ to a bare minimum and removing checks on goods from Great Britain destined for Northern Ireland’s shops.

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« Reply #10235 on: June 15, 2022, 09:22:45 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/eu-trade-officials-have-a-hit-list-of-uk-products-as-trade-war-looms-41749648.html

Shít is going to get real for Boris and Truss if the EU start hitting UK manufacturing...

Lord Bamford won't be long off the phone if he can't get parts for his diggers....
Tariffs imposed on Scottish Whiskey? That's Scotland who voted to remain, on the surface that sounds like a brainless sanction.

I listened to Sammy in a debate this morning on ulster radio, it was mentioned to him that the Wright Bros chairperson? came out strongly in favour of the NI protocol and obviously stated that they have made huge contracts all over the EU. Sammy said they could have made those contracts without the protocol in place by using the trade agreement in place.  Not mentioned was that signing the protocol allowed for the trade agreement to be put into place. Otherwise the Wright bros ability to fulfill contracts would be burdened by paperwork and probable tariffs making them less competitive.

Not so brainless if you play the long game. Scottish Indy 2.0 has been launched.
I see your point,  the perception that traditional Scotland business is being punished as a result of British gov shenanigans.  But somehow I doubt the EU could be in secret cahoots with the SNP.
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In the current world I’d rule nothing out…

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« Reply #10236 on: June 15, 2022, 11:10:50 PM »
The latest attorney general Braverman seems to be another ERG sycophant. Throwing out insults and being economical with the truth would appear to be a pre-requisite to hold a position of power in the current English government. It must be one of the most incompetent, chaotic governments anywhere in the world and it doesn’t say much for Starmer that he hasn’t been capable of sinking this government yet.

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« Reply #10237 on: June 15, 2022, 11:46:33 PM »
The latest attorney general Braverman seems to be another ERG sycophant. Throwing out insults and being economical with the truth would appear to be a pre-requisite to hold a position of power in the current English government. It must be one of the most incompetent, chaotic governments anywhere in the world and it doesn’t say much for Starmer that he hasn’t been capable of sinking this government yet.

There was actually disbelief in the higher levels at Whitehall such a mediocre lawyer was made attorney general. Just there as a 'yes woman'. Private Eye stuff on her would make laugh.

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« Reply #10238 on: June 16, 2022, 09:12:23 AM »
The latest attorney general Braverman seems to be another ERG sycophant. Throwing out insults and being economical with the truth would appear to be a pre-requisite to hold a position of power in the current English government. It must be one of the most incompetent, chaotic governments anywhere in the world and it doesn’t say much for Starmer that he hasn’t been capable of sinking this government yet.

There was actually disbelief in the higher levels at Whitehall such a mediocre lawyer was made attorney general. Just there as a 'yes woman'. Private Eye stuff on her would make laugh.

She was telling downright lies on Peston last night, NI is on the verge of civil war if you've believed her and our economy is doing worse than the rest of the UK....

The Labour lad was shaking his head in disbelief at her ramblings...

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« Reply #10239 on: June 16, 2022, 09:27:25 AM »
The latest attorney general Braverman seems to be another ERG sycophant. Throwing out insults and being economical with the truth would appear to be a pre-requisite to hold a position of power in the current English government. It must be one of the most incompetent, chaotic governments anywhere in the world and it doesn’t say much for Starmer that he hasn’t been capable of sinking this government yet.

There was actually disbelief in the higher levels at Whitehall such a mediocre lawyer was made attorney general. Just there as a 'yes woman'. Private Eye stuff on her would make laugh.

She was telling downright lies on Peston last night, NI is on the verge of civil war if you've believed her and our economy is doing worse than the rest of the UK....

The Labour lad was shaking his head in disbelief at her ramblings...

Seen that. Talking complete BS. Peston should have challenged her on the economy bit..

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« Reply #10240 on: June 16, 2022, 10:50:24 AM »
The latest attorney general Braverman seems to be another ERG sycophant. Throwing out insults and being economical with the truth would appear to be a pre-requisite to hold a position of power in the current English government. It must be one of the most incompetent, chaotic governments anywhere in the world and it doesn’t say much for Starmer that he hasn’t been capable of sinking this government yet.

There was actually disbelief in the higher levels at Whitehall such a mediocre lawyer was made attorney general. Just there as a 'yes woman'. Private Eye stuff on her would make laugh.

She was telling downright lies on Peston last night, NI is on the verge of civil war if you've believed her and our economy is doing worse than the rest of the UK....

The Labour lad was shaking his head in disbelief at her ramblings...
Braverman is an ideologue close to the ERG. Same as Patel. Way out of her depth.
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« Reply #10241 on: June 16, 2022, 11:04:19 AM »
I see wee Jeffrey taking a dig at Stephen Kelly and Manufacturing ni. On his Twitter feed, there's a lot of support, which is good to see.

The organistaion has the audacity to say the protocol is working for a lot of businesses with the best of both worlds.

Similiar to the dairy industry - things going well.

We need to hear more from these organisations.  A programme should be done on these companies and the benefits. 

Where are the investigative journalists at?

Again, there seems to be a campaign to silence these people from unionist politicians and their hench men.

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« Reply #10242 on: June 16, 2022, 11:17:17 AM »
I see wee Jeffrey taking a dig at Stephen Kelly and Manufacturing ni. On his Twitter feed, there's a lot of support, which is good to see.

The organistaion has the audacity to say the protocol is working for a lot of businesses with the best of both worlds.

Similiar to the dairy industry - things going well.

We need to hear more from these organisations.  A programme should be done on these companies and the benefits. 

Where are the investigative journalists at?

Again, there seems to be a campaign to silence these people from unionist politicians and their hench men.

This is the slippery slope we are on at the moment in terms of disinformation. The truth of what is happening on the ground is being undermined by the ERG Tories and now the DUP. It has been happening here since the DUP election campaign where loyalists such as Bryson, Hoey, Holmes and Lowry have been deliberately attacking media outlets, BBC, judiciary, academics, business groupings etc to try and discredit any information. It's straight from the Steve Bannon/Trump playbook.

It is a deliberate tactic to increase division, fear and hatred. It might work for the Tories in England where the political system is run by the elites for the elites but I can't understand how the DUP think it is going to work here. I think people here, particularly in the centre ground are increasingly seeing them for what they are and the longer they continue to cosy up to priviliged English nationalists, the further they back themselves into a corner and leave themselves exposed for when they are no longer useful.   

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« Reply #10243 on: June 16, 2022, 11:24:02 AM »
It is an absolute shitshow at the minute. The dup are disgusting. They hide behind Christianity. What does Christianity make of liars?

Hugely divisive and quite worrying tbh.

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« Reply #10244 on: June 16, 2022, 11:39:08 AM »
Read an article this morning that the Tories won’t go any further with this new Brexit bill ripping up the protocol unless the DUP nominate a first minister.