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Armagh18

Quote from: Helix. on February 24, 2023, 12:25:01 AM
Frenkie De Jong rejected Man United all summer to play Champions League football just to get knocked out by Man United in the Europa League.

Hopefully have enough in the tank for Sunday and next few weeks fatigue will start to show.
See there was a few cheers of Frenkie, Frenkie what's the score at the end lol. Bruno showed his feeling towards him anyway lacing that ball into the diving feck! He's a deadly player though and I think he'll be signed in the summer.

Absolutely mental pace that game, big ask to go again Sunday but hopefull enough in the tank to beant Newcastle. Rashford and Casemiro both picked up knocks, hope they are ok for Sunday.

Turf

Europa League is Man United's to lose, as is the Cup Final at the weekend.

Armagh18

Quote from: Turf on February 24, 2023, 08:19:07 AM
Europa League is Man United's to lose, as is the Cup Final at the weekend.
Haven't even looked past Barca for Europa tbh, what other good teams are there? Arsenal?

square_ball

Quote from: Helix. on February 24, 2023, 12:25:01 AM
Frenkie De Jong rejected Man United all summer to play Champions League football just to get knocked out by Man United in the Europa League.

Hopefully have enough in the tank for Sunday and next few weeks fatigue will start to show.

I thought it was the €17m Barca owed him rather than anything to do with playing in the Champions League?

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 24, 2023, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: Turf on February 24, 2023, 08:19:07 AM
Europa League is Man United's to lose, as is the Cup Final at the weekend.
Haven't even looked past Barca for Europa tbh, what other good teams are there? Arsenal?

Jose & Roma at some stage would be interesting. More than likely be between Arsenal and United.

trailer

EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Mourne Red

Quote from: square_ball on February 24, 2023, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: Helix. on February 24, 2023, 12:25:01 AM
Frenkie De Jong rejected Man United all summer to play Champions League football just to get knocked out by Man United in the Europa League.

Hopefully have enough in the tank for Sunday and next few weeks fatigue will start to show.

I thought it was the €17m Barca owed him rather than anything to do with playing in the Champions League?

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 24, 2023, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: Turf on February 24, 2023, 08:19:07 AM
Europa League is Man United's to lose, as is the Cup Final at the weekend.
Haven't even looked past Barca for Europa tbh, what other good teams are there? Arsenal?

Jose & Roma at some stage would be interesting. More than likely be between Arsenal and United.

Juventus still in it

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.
Fred is suited that that sort of hectic game. It's when he needs to be composed on the ball that there is trouble. Shitty luck with injuries has left the squad thin enough looking alright despite the millions spent!


trueblue1234

Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

blasmere

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Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?


https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-five-net-spend-134509929.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD-gRVAglxCW0LST4zdU8J9XQP_K8syhOKGoRO0cZivEPS0hZpNqiFo2qNTdoolzOYZmoksSAOGG8RuNdQOGZLMM1_P0TB7uKAKdaudBqXTq6mMvIdLvBT9Wlq-F5-Arf5YUc5faXzppQzDUi0FHkFg0Xz-akXKEd6zBHjPmDWDg

ETH is doing well so far but the raw materials he already had before coming cost a fortune. United have been the utlimate flops recently and still are until they win something serious.

Premier League five-year net spend table 

1) Chelsea: £-654.21m
22/23: £-480.38m
21/22: £5.79m (3rd)
20/21: £-166.86m (4th)
19/20: £98.57m (4th)
18/19: £-110.23m (3rd)


2) Manchester United: £-540.23m
22/23: £-203.26m
21/22: £-99.5m (6th)
20/21: £-56.45m (2nd)
19/20: £-134.87m  (3rd)
18/19: £-45.8m (6th)


....

9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)


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Armagh18

Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?
He'lll be within touching distance of the league this year although be a big ask to win it. If we were out of all the cups I'd have given us a fair chance of the league but the drop off in quality after Bruno/Rashford/Casemiro is too much if we lose one.

Couple of signings in the summer and you'd fancy a decent run in Europe next year. I think Sunday is massive for this group to win a trophy. Bar Casemiro and Varane not many have really won much worth talking about, at least not in recent times (not counting Martinez who didn't feature much in Qatar)

Armagh18

Quote from: blasmere on February 24, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?


https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-five-net-spend-134509929.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD-gRVAglxCW0LST4zdU8J9XQP_K8syhOKGoRO0cZivEPS0hZpNqiFo2qNTdoolzOYZmoksSAOGG8RuNdQOGZLMM1_P0TB7uKAKdaudBqXTq6mMvIdLvBT9Wlq-F5-Arf5YUc5faXzppQzDUi0FHkFg0Xz-akXKEd6zBHjPmDWDg

ETH is doing well so far but the raw materials he already had before coming cost a fortune. United have been the utlimate flops recently and still are until they win something.

Premier League five-year net spend table 

1) Chelsea: £-654.21m
22/23: £-480.38m
21/22: £5.79m (3rd)
20/21: £-166.86m (4th)
19/20: £98.57m (4th)
18/19: £-110.23m (3rd)


2) Manchester United: £-540.23m
22/23: £-203.26m
21/22: £-99.5m (6th)
20/21: £-56.45m (2nd)
19/20: £-134.87m  (3rd)
18/19: £-45.8m (6th)


....

9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)
Some amount of money wasted in that- Sancho and Antony cost a bomb and while I do think both will come good, United are getting nowhere near their moneys worth currently. Further back Maguire and Pogba stand out as money wasted as well obviously.

Seem to be on track now though signing the right players. The 2 big name signings Varane and Casemiro have been great- no egos or bullshit, just 2 class acts and pure winners.

trueblue1234

Maybe, or you could see the second season syndrome, where there's bigger expectations and more pressure. Without a bigger win, there'll always be that pressure to show improvements.
We had posters on here calling Klopp a flop in his first couple of seasons. But Liverpool fans could see the change that was happening within the team. Then the performances started to follow, and then the silverware. Which is why all Liverpool fans are happy to stick with Klopp as he has those trophies in the bank now. And it had been a long wait.
I think there's definite potential there with EtH. And he seems to be having a good impact on existing players similar to Klopp. Shows he's a good coach.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

trailer

Quote from: blasmere on February 24, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?


https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-five-net-spend-134509929.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD-gRVAglxCW0LST4zdU8J9XQP_K8syhOKGoRO0cZivEPS0hZpNqiFo2qNTdoolzOYZmoksSAOGG8RuNdQOGZLMM1_P0TB7uKAKdaudBqXTq6mMvIdLvBT9Wlq-F5-Arf5YUc5faXzppQzDUi0FHkFg0Xz-akXKEd6zBHjPmDWDg

ETH is doing well so far but the raw materials he already had before coming cost a fortune. United have been the utlimate flops recently and still are until they win something serious.

Premier League five-year net spend table 

1) Chelsea: £-654.21m
22/23: £-480.38m
21/22: £5.79m (3rd)
20/21: £-166.86m (4th)
19/20: £98.57m (4th)
18/19: £-110.23m (3rd)


2) Manchester United: £-540.23m
22/23: £-203.26m
21/22: £-99.5m (6th)
20/21: £-56.45m (2nd)
19/20: £-134.87m  (3rd)
18/19: £-45.8m (6th)


....

9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)

The Net spend champions. A kind of trophy for the smaller clubs.

blasmere

Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: blasmere on February 24, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:26:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 24, 2023, 09:17:09 AM
EtH should get Manager of the Millennium. Anyone getting that performance out of Fred has magical powers.

With a threadbare squad we're fighting on four fronts while others who have spent millions (Chelsea, Tottenham) and had years to build teams (Flopp and Loserpool) are nowhere.
A win this weekend and some silverware would be a fantastic boost.

Klopp has a League and CL under his belt. EtH has nothing yet.

That said, similar to when Klopp was hired, it looks like he's going in the right direction. Will he ever get United back to winning the bigger trophies is the big question?


https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-five-net-spend-134509929.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD-gRVAglxCW0LST4zdU8J9XQP_K8syhOKGoRO0cZivEPS0hZpNqiFo2qNTdoolzOYZmoksSAOGG8RuNdQOGZLMM1_P0TB7uKAKdaudBqXTq6mMvIdLvBT9Wlq-F5-Arf5YUc5faXzppQzDUi0FHkFg0Xz-akXKEd6zBHjPmDWDg

ETH is doing well so far but the raw materials he already had before coming cost a fortune. United have been the utlimate flops recently and still are until they win something serious.

Premier League five-year net spend table 

1) Chelsea: £-654.21m
22/23: £-480.38m
21/22: £5.79m (3rd)
20/21: £-166.86m (4th)
19/20: £98.57m (4th)
18/19: £-110.23m (3rd)


2) Manchester United: £-540.23m
22/23: £-203.26m
21/22: £-99.5m (6th)
20/21: £-56.45m (2nd)
19/20: £-134.87m  (3rd)
18/19: £-45.8m (6th)


....

9) Liverpool: £-254.19m
22/23: £-49.7m
21/22: £-50.44m (2nd)
20/21: £-58.7m (3rd)
19/20: £29.94m (Champions)
18/19: £-123.7m (2nd)

The Net spend champions. A kind of trophy for the smaller clubs.

How many small clubs have 6 of Europeans premier club trophy in their cabinet, never mind the bigger ones...
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Blowitupref

Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2023, 09:48:55 AM
Maybe, or you could see the second season syndrome, where there's bigger expectations and more pressure. Without a bigger win, there'll always be that pressure to show improvements.
We had posters on here calling Klopp a flop in his first couple of seasons. But Liverpool fans could see the change that was happening within the team. Then the performances started to follow, and then the silverware. Which is why all Liverpool fans are happy to stick with Klopp as he has those trophies in the bank now. And it had been a long wait.
I think there's definite potential there with EtH. And he seems to be having a good impact on existing players similar to Klopp. Shows he's a good coach.
Klopp has a track record of building teams he joins and then winning trophies, i don't think he's the best at rebuilding which will be required at Liverpool now.

Man United after a decade of searching seem to have found a good fit and proper replacement for Ferguson.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose