Feigning Injuries

Started by mrdeeds, March 06, 2023, 12:59:49 PM

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Brick Tamlin

Quote from: yellowcard on March 07, 2023, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 07, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: befair on March 06, 2023, 10:00:27 PM
Tyrone introduced diving/feigning injury in the 2000s, but as it's proven to be effective, there's been a culture change, and every team is at it, even at club level. Impossible for a ref to determine if an injury if being feigned, even if they have a MRI in their pocket.
And there are other consequences; with so many faked injuries, identifying the real one becomes more difficult

Lol what a load of nonsense. That team was known for its intensity, running after a ball like your life depended on it. It did not introduce feigning injury into GAA   :o

I wouldn't necessarily agree that they introduced it but they were the first team who tolerated a win at all costs mentality. Whether that was sledging, feigning injury or gamesmanship that Tyrone team under Mickey Harte had a win at all costs mentality which still pervades to this day. Players like Jordan, McGuigan, Cavanagh and McCann feigned injury in high profile games before yet the practice never disappeared. While players have to take personal responsibility, it can be easily eradicated by management ensuring that it doesn't become part of the culture. Kieran McGeeney for example would not tolerate a diving culture as it would be anathema to what he believes in.

Would he not aye.
Big, macho, strong, manly men dont believe in that guff.

yellowcard

Quote from: LeoMc on March 08, 2023, 09:21:24 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 07, 2023, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 07, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: befair on March 06, 2023, 10:00:27 PM
Tyrone introduced diving/feigning injury in the 2000s, but as it's proven to be effective, there's been a culture change, and every team is at it, even at club level. Impossible for a ref to determine if an injury if being feigned, even if they have a MRI in their pocket.
And there are other consequences; with so many faked injuries, identifying the real one becomes more difficult

Lol what a load of nonsense. That team was known for its intensity, running after a ball like your life depended on it. It did not introduce feigning injury into GAA   :o

I wouldn't necessarily agree that they introduced it but they were the first team who tolerated a win at all costs mentality. Whether that was sledging, feigning injury or gamesmanship that Tyrone team under Mickey Harte had a win at all costs mentality which still pervades to this day. Players like Jordan, McGuigan, Cavanagh and McCann feigned injury in high profile games before yet the practice never disappeared. While players have to take personal responsibility, it can be easily eradicated by management ensuring that it doesn't become part of the culture. Kieran McGeeney for example would not tolerate a diving culture as it would be anathema to what he believes in.
Would he tolerate it from Ethan Rafferty?

No I don't believe he would tolerate it from any player. I'm not sure if you are referring to a particular incident but I'm certain that it is not something that McGeeney would tolerate never mind encourage in his teams. If an individual player chooses to feign injury then that is something that a manager can't control but it's certainly not something that has been associated with an Armagh team.   

blanketattack

The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:

tyrone08

Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

CK_Redhand

8 week ban for this and he got off on appeal. The rulebook/disciplinary process needs to be rewritten. Hate the game, not the player.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: CK_Redhand on March 09, 2023, 01:52:20 PM
8 week ban for this and he got off on appeal. The rulebook/disciplinary process needs to be rewritten. Hate the game, not the player.

For all the weights these footballers do they go down pretty quick!! No defence for that shite!! Is he still playing?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

RedHand88

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on March 09, 2023, 01:52:20 PM
8 week ban for this and he got off on appeal. The rulebook/disciplinary process needs to be rewritten. Hate the game, not the player.

For all the weights these footballers do they go down pretty quick!! No defence for that shite!! Is he still playing?

Rode off into the sunset with his all-ireland medal. Which is one more than anyone here.

He's apologised on the record for it years ago, but that will never satisfy some people who will harbour bitterness towards Tyrone for rest of their life.

joemamas

Quote from: CK_Redhand on March 09, 2023, 01:52:20 PM
8 week ban for this and he got off on appeal. The rulebook/disciplinary process needs to be rewritten. Hate the game, not the player.

Who was the ref who was standing what seemed like six feet away

tyrone08

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?

There was a ban proposed which is more then has been done to any other team. Fans and the gaa need to look at these issues individually rather than handing out proposed bans because a certain team is involved.

Armagh18

Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?

There was a ban proposed which is more then has been done to any other team. Fans and the gaa need to look at these issues individually rather than handing out proposed bans because a certain team is involved.
That one was desperate and I'm sure he still gets slagging about it. Any player at that shit should be ashamed.

blanketattack

Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?

There was a ban proposed which is more then has been done to any other team. Fans and the gaa need to look at these issues individually rather than handing out proposed bans because a certain team is involved.

Even the way he appealed his ban made it seem like he was proud of his behaviour which sunk his reputation even further.
His real punishment is that his name will live in infamy because of one bad incident rather than of any positive contributions. He's the Tonya Harding of Gaelic Football.

J70

Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?

There was a ban proposed which is more then has been done to any other team. Fans and the gaa need to look at these issues individually rather than handing out proposed bans because a certain team is involved.

The ban was "proposed "?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 09, 2023, 03:03:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on March 09, 2023, 01:52:20 PM
8 week ban for this and he got off on appeal. The rulebook/disciplinary process needs to be rewritten. Hate the game, not the player.

For all the weights these footballers do they go down pretty quick!! No defence for that shite!! Is he still playing?

Rode off into the sunset with his all-ireland medal. Which is one more than anyone here.

He's apologised on the record for it years ago, but that will never satisfy some people who will harbour bitterness towards Tyrone for rest of their life.

lol!! WTF does that even mean? like are you justifying that because (in your head) that no one on here has an All Ireland medal that its grand?

Bitterness doesn't even come close to this shite, having a medal gives no one a free pass to be called out every time that comes up, and apologising because he got caught out isnt an excuse either
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tyrone08

Quote from: J70 on March 09, 2023, 04:30:46 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 03:34:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 09, 2023, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 09, 2023, 01:00:33 PM
The Hall of Fame for diving in Gaelic football, a one that will never be beaten til the end of time:


Horrible act. I suppose the question should be why has no one been hit with a ban since this. Dives like this should be called out and punished with as ban. Would soon cut it out.

How did this pan out?

There was a ban proposed which is more then has been done to any other team. Fans and the gaa need to look at these issues individually rather than handing out proposed bans because a certain team is involved.

The ban was "proposed "?

He got it but ended up getting off. Again the gaa hand an opportunity to stamp this out the but as usual the appeal succeed