Dublin players and Management all get new Subaru car

[rrhf]

Or simply split Dublin in 4.

[manfromdelmonte]

they all live and work in Dublin, don't have far to travel to work, county training or games.

that is probably the biggest advantage

a county like Sligo or Cavan would have a lot of players working away from the county which involves a lot of travelling

[Beffs]

they all live and work in Dublin, don't have far to travel to work, county training or games.

that is probably the biggest advantage

a county like Sligo or Cavan would have a lot of players working away from the county which involves a lot of travelling

So what about players from Kilare, Meath and Wicklow? With modern motorways, they would have manageable commutes to/from Dublin to Newbridge, Navan etc. What are those counties excuses for being crap?

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

Kildare have many reasons/excuses for being crap but the recent decline is down to a combination of suffering hammerings from Dublin(Kerry too on 1 dark day), ousting McGeeney when he was rebuilding against the wishes of the players and most right minded supporters, appointing the spoofer Jason Ryan (didn't think Meath would be physical etc), losing huge amount of supporters, much reduced finances as a result, clubs being squeezed to pay for the centre of excellence and probably the main excuse is that they have always been somewhat crap apart from the odd spell every 20/30 years or so. There is no hope.

The growth of Rugby is having some impact too as more children are playing it than ever before and Kildare has the highest amount of Rugby clubs per population in the country. Decent well run soccer leagues too.

[seafoid]

Kildare have many reasons/excuses for being crap but the recent decline is down to a combination of suffering hammerings from Dublin(Kerry too on 1 dark day), ousting McGeeney when he was rebuilding against the wishes of the players and most right minded supporters, appointing the spoofer Jason Ryan (didn't think Meath would be physical etc), losing huge amount of supporters, much reduced finances as a result, clubs being squeezed to pay for the centre of excellence and probably the main excuse is that they have always been somewhat crap apart from the odd spell every 20/30 years or so. There is no hope.

The growth of Rugby is having some impact too as more children are playing it than ever before and Kildare has the highest amount of Rugby clubs per population in the country. Decent well run soccer leagues too.

Kildare doesn't have a cohort of winners at any age and the supporters are fatalistic . The psychology of Kildare football is very complex. It should be studied in conjunction with Cork. They have crosses to bear but they can still win every so often.

[Beffs]

Ah here. Cork have won nearly 40 All Irelands, across both codes. Cork may be in the doldrums now, but Kildare and Cork are at polar opposites on the overall success scale.

Kildare have many reasons/excuses for being crap but the recent decline is down to a combination of suffering hammerings from Dublin(Kerry too on 1 dark day), ousting McGeeney when he was rebuilding against the wishes of the players and most right minded supporters, appointing the spoofer Jason Ryan (didn't think Meath would be physical etc), losing huge amount of supporters, much reduced finances as a result, clubs being squeezed to pay for the centre of excellence and probably the main excuse is that they have always been somewhat crap apart from the odd spell every 20/30 years or so. There is no hope.

The growth of Rugby is having some impact too as more children are playing it than ever before and Kildare has the highest amount of Rugby clubs per population in the country. Decent well run soccer leagues too.

This past decade, Kildare have lost to other counties in Leinster, more than they have lost to Dublin. Blaming mental trauma from getting hammered by the Dubs, will only get you so far.

[seafoid]

Ah here. Cork have won nearly 40 All Irelands, across both codes. Cork may be in the doldrums now, but Kildare and Cork are at polar opposites on the overall success scale.

Kildare have many reasons/excuses for being crap but the recent decline is down to a combination of suffering hammerings from Dublin(Kerry too on 1 dark day), ousting McGeeney when he was rebuilding against the wishes of the players and most right minded supporters, appointing the spoofer Jason Ryan (didn't think Meath would be physical etc), losing huge amount of supporters, much reduced finances as a result, clubs being squeezed to pay for the centre of excellence and probably the main excuse is that they have always been somewhat crap apart from the odd spell every 20/30 years or so. There is no hope.

The growth of Rugby is having some impact too as more children are playing it than ever before and Kildare has the highest amount of Rugby clubs per population in the country. Decent well run soccer leagues too.

This past decade, Kildare have lost to other counties in Leinster, more than they have lost to Dublin. Blaming mental trauma from getting hammered by the Dubs, will only get you so far.

Cork hurlers have a top 3 pedigree. Cork footballers would be closer to Mayo. They lose a lot of all Ireland finals.

[Beffs]

Yep. They may do. But at least they are actually getting to the AI finals. Kldare generally, aren't within an arses roar of one.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

This past decade, Kildare have lost to other counties in Leinster, more than they have lost to Dublin. Blaming mental trauma from getting hammered by the Dubs, will only get you so far.

Have not lost to a Leinster county in a knock out game that matters in almost 10 years (Louth 2007). Getting out of Leinster every year is a weight off our shoulders and performances generally improve greatly in the qualifiers. The difference in intensity last year between the Kildare Westmeath match and the Kildare Offaly qualifier was astonishing, one was like a challenge match played behind closed doors and the other was proper championship fare with a great atmosphere and proper football.

[seafoid]

Yep. They may do. But at least they are actually getting to the AI finals. Kldare generally, aren't within an arses roar of one.

That is partly structural. There are twice as many counties in Leinster than in Munster.  The GAA should allocate Kildare to Munster or Connacht on humanitarian grounds for 5 years.

[ONeill]

These boys don't play many club games atall.

[Avondhu star]

Obviously playing numbers must be top of the list. There are clubs in Dublin that field over 90 teams across the male and female games. And that is still after a significant loss of players in the teenage years. Financially Dublin cannot be matched. However they are beatable as long as you dont do Mayo on it and give them two goals

[Dinny Breen]

Kildare have many reasons/excuses for being crap but the recent decline is down to a combination of suffering hammerings from Dublin(Kerry too on 1 dark day), ousting McGeeney when he was rebuilding against the wishes of the players and most right minded supporters, appointing the spoofer Jason Ryan (didn't think Meath would be physical etc), losing huge amount of supporters, much reduced finances as a result, clubs being squeezed to pay for the centre of excellence and probably the main excuse is that they have always been somewhat crap apart from the odd spell every 20/30 years or so. There is no hope.

The growth of Rugby is having some impact too as more children are playing it than ever before and Kildare has the highest amount of Rugby clubs per population in the country. Decent well run soccer leagues too.

Athy
Barnhall
Cill Dara
Clane
Naas
Newbridge
North Kildare

Newbridge College
Clongowes Wood (Boarding)

21 Adult teams between them

Close to 150 underage teams including the 2 schools but most playing club rugby play multiple sports so a very small factor in our shiteness.

There would be in excess of 100 Adult GAA teams and over 500 juvenile teams.

Culture is our biggest issue.

[criostlinn]

Obviously playing numbers must be top of the list. There are clubs in Dublin that field over 90 teams across the male and female games. And that is still after a significant loss of players in the teenage years. Financially Dublin cannot be matched. However they are beatable as long as you dont do Mayo on it and give them two goals

Sometimes scrolling through this board you read some of the daftest things and you wonder is the poster on the wind up and thinks they are after delivering a real smart one or are they really that stupid. This here. This is a great example of this.

"However they are beatable as long as you dont do Mayo on it and give them two goals"

Right so. Beatable by who. Kildare maybe. If Kildare can avoid conceding 2 own goals they can beat the all conquering Dubs. Or Kerry. Maybe they should try this wonderful new tactic.
What does this actually mean.

Actually the day that Dublin came nearest to been beat the last 2 years was the day they were given them 2 goals

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

Athy
Barnhall
Cill Dara
Clane
Naas
Newbridge
North Kildare

Newbridge College
Clongowes Wood (Boarding)

21 Adult teams between them

Close to 150 underage teams including the 2 schools but most playing club rugby play multiple sports so a very small factor in our shiteness.

There would be in excess of 100 Adult GAA teams and over 500 juvenile teams.

Culture is our biggest issue.

Fair point but I'd still imagine their playing numbers are a lot higher than what was the case 10-15 years ago. I know the seasons can compliment each other with Rugby being useful for toughening up young lads (it probably helped myself in that regard when I was a skinny 13 year old playing flanker and every big number 8 going would think they could run over me) in the winter but at my club at least you'd see a few of them not bother come back in the summer and they'd be missed.
The rugby clubs also seem to be more adept at hoovering up sponsorship money that in the past the GAA might have got.

Only a very small contributory factor in the counties overall demise though.