East wall #Irelandisfull

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brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Kidder81 on November 17, 2023, 05:53:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 17, 2023, 05:34:58 PMWeren't many foreigners about when Larry Murphy was on the rampage.
Weren't many around and wasn't too safe when Marilyn Rynne was murdered.

239 women murdered in the 26 from 1996 to mid 2022.
All by males?

Aye sure we have a big enough handlin with our own Larry Murphys without feral lowlifes like Puskas.

The Larry Murphys of the world are a minority. The lowlifes like Puskas are an even smaller minority. The vast majority of women murdered in Ireland in the last 30 years were by people very close to them,  husbands, boyfriends, ex husbands or boyfriends or sons. Even a lot of the murders by non Irish men are were carried out by boyfriends or husbands of non Irish women.

The biggest problem of violence against women is that there has been a historic 'acceptance' of domestic violence whether we like it or not,  a lot of that directly linked to alcohol over use. How many of the murders over the years have had a history of him giving her a few slaps when the drink was in and this becoming par for the course. Before we get on our high horses about the scum from other countries coming here we have societal problems within our locals to acknowledge and sort out first.

LC

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 19, 2023, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on November 17, 2023, 05:53:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 17, 2023, 05:34:58 PMWeren't many foreigners about when Larry Murphy was on the rampage.
Weren't many around and wasn't too safe when Marilyn Rynne was murdered.

239 women murdered in the 26 from 1996 to mid 2022.
All by males?

Aye sure we have a big enough handlin with our own Larry Murphys without feral lowlifes like Puskas.

The Larry Murphys of the world are a minority. The lowlifes like Puskas are an even smaller minority. The vast majority of women murdered in Ireland in the last 30 years were by people very close to them,  husbands, boyfriends, ex husbands or boyfriends or sons. Even a lot of the murders by non Irish men are were carried out by boyfriends or husbands of non Irish women.

The biggest problem of violence against women is that there has been a historic 'acceptance' of domestic violence whether we like it or not,  a lot of that directly linked to alcohol over use. How many of the murders over the years have had a history of him giving her a few slaps when the drink was in and this becoming par for the course. Before we get on our high horses about the scum from other countries coming here we have societal problems within our locals to acknowledge and sort out first.

+1

Re Larry Murphy watched a documentary on Sky recently re murders / disappearance of woman in Ireland in the early / mid 90s tragic stuff.

burdizzo

Indeed - we should sort out our own problems before taking in those of the world. And even when we have sorted them out, why then take in those of the world?!

Milltown Row2

Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 12:57:51 PMIndeed - we should sort out our own problems before taking in those of the world. And even when we have sorted them out, why then take in those of the world?!

Because Ireland is part of the EU?

Are you looking to do a brexit?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

burdizzo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 12:57:51 PMIndeed - we should sort out our own problems before taking in those of the world. And even when we have sorted them out, why then take in those of the world?!

Because Ireland is part of the EU?

Are you looking to do a brexit?

I said "world", not "EU". Even then, we're not in Schengen, so we should be able to exercise more control over who comes in. Of course, the political will is not there to do that.

Milltown Row2

You can't cherry pick the good things and dish the stuff you don't like..

We've been the scum of the earth for many years, "no blacks no Irish"

Will we put up similar signs at ports airports accommodation around the country?

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

burdizzo

The converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Will we be able to take back our own from other countries then?

Should we just accept that if we kick out non Irish that it's ok for other countries follow suit?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JoG2

Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 01:25:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 01:19:10 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 12:57:51 PMIndeed - we should sort out our own problems before taking in those of the world. And even when we have sorted them out, why then take in those of the world?!

Because Ireland is part of the EU?

Are you looking to do a brexit?

I said "world", not "EU". Even then, we're not in Schengen, so we should be able to exercise more control over who comes in. Of course, the political will is not there to do that.

Never mind who's coming in, can we let you out?

burdizzo

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Will we be able to take back our own from other countries then?

Should we just accept that if we kick out non Irish that it's ok for other countries follow suit?

Fine.

lenny

Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

You don't give a shit about our own, you're just a racist.

burdizzo


Milltown Row2

Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 05:52:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Will we be able to take back our own from other countries then?

Should we just accept that if we kick out non Irish that it's ok for other countries follow suit?

Fine.


Fine? Have you actually thought it out in your head? The practicalities the reality of what you're looking for?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 05:52:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Will we be able to take back our own from other countries then?

Should we just accept that if we kick out non Irish that it's ok for other countries follow suit?

Fine.


Fine? Have you actually thought it out in your head? The practicalities the reality of what you're looking for?
It's never gonna happen in a million years lol

burdizzo

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 19, 2023, 07:53:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 05:52:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 19, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on November 19, 2023, 02:56:40 PMThe converse will mean being overwhelmed. Look after your own first.

Will we be able to take back our own from other countries then?

Should we just accept that if we kick out non Irish that it's ok for other countries follow suit?

Fine.


Fine? Have you actually thought it out in your head? The practicalities the reality of what you're looking for?
It's never gonna happen in a million years lol

I know, but it should.

The practicalities? Makes far more sense to be encouraging Irish emigrants to come home (and there are some schemes which do this), than to import loads of culturally incompatible immigrants who, let's face it, don't really have any stake in Irish heritage or society as it is. We continue on this path, and in 50 years time - perhaps less - Irish people will be a minority. Yippee. Is that 'practical'? Of course, another option is to increase the fertility rate, and not encourage gender dystopia, homosexuality, abortion, etc. I know, I know - some of ye won't be able to contain yourselves. Sheesh. However, it is a fact that mass immigration is here because we "need" (apparently) a growing economy, and that requires a growing population. So, either get mass immigration, and quickly lose cohesiveness as a society, or encourage a fertility rate at or above replacement levels. But the former option is the quick fix that most of the rest of Europe is at, and, shure, we may as well just go along with that.