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Tipp have got off the ground with this one and are going against it. Not surprised either, stupid proposal. The 30 yard forward move should cover cynical play if it's enforced properly. Imagine the furore this would cause if a ref gave a black card instead of a straight red? The CCCCCC would be working night and day during the championship.

Tipperary have revealed their reasons for opposing the black card motion ahead of this weekend's Annual Congress in Derry.
The Tipperary County Board are against the introduction of the rule that will enforce mandatory substitutions for an offence deemed worthy of the black card.
Fouls likely to incur a black card include purposefully bringing down an opposition player, or tripping an opponent with a hand, arm or foot.
Yellow and red cards would remain as previously.
Tipperary PRO Ger Ryan told RTÉ that they do not feel the rule is balanced fairly.
He said: "Tipperary is opposing the black card motion at congress. That was decided by a vote of delegates at our county board meeting on Tuesday night.
"There is a legitimate view that there is cynical play because the Football Review Committee have put an awful lot of effort into this and I don't think they came to their conclusion lightly.
"People have a particular point of view to put across and when a debate is going on, it's important they put their views strongly and use whatever evidence they have to get that view across.
"So I'm not surprised there are strong views being expressed on it.
"But I think we also have to look that people have other views and it is good to have debate.
"At our county board meeting delegates expressed the view that the black card was not the best way forward at this time because they felt there were a number of things that were not right about it.
"The main things they objected to was they felt it could cause confusion among players, it could make life difficult for referees, the public could be confused about it.
"They also felt it favoured the stronger teams who have substitutes readily available to come in. Weaker team, be it club or county, might not have that option available to them.
"On that basis the majority view was that we should oppose the black card motion."
Tipp will support some of the 73 motions including public timing and a mark which will be decided on today and tomorrow in Derry.
Ryan said: "We're in favour of the mark, we're in favour of moving the ball forward 30 metres. We're in favour of the handpass score and we're also in favour of the clock.
"So if you like there has been a very balanced debate in Tipperary.
"We're in favour of some motions in relation to the Football Review Committee recommendations and one of the ones were opposed to is the black card."

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2013/0322/377894-congress-set-to-begin-in-derry/

What's the new rule on this? Do the commentators / pundits even know?

During the Dublin Kildare game Canning thought one move led to a square ball and then he was corrected by Carney saying the rule no longer exists.

Much later last night on the Sunday (Monday Morning) Game (a good few beers later) I think I heard McStay re-implementing the rule.

If someone can clarify the rule this would be a help.

Not sure if this topic is already started elsewhere?

Looking through the RTE Sunday game topic re Spillane and Brolly it shouldn't go unnoticed the great coverage of the Dublin v Louth game on TV3. Great pundits and positive, studied analysis rather than the same old lazy muck from the RTE lads.

The TV3 lads did a good enough job that they managed to distract and give the impression that Matt Cooper was a genuine GAA man.

Once again we are subjected to this subject from r t e. Is this just more hype? Everyone worth their salt has collapsed at some stage in their life from drink so why have we to put up with this nanny state shite from r t e? Its not drink thats a problem in this country its the standard of journalism!

The last member of the 1936 AI winning panel passed away.

Funeral arrangements:

Tuesday, from Quinn's of Glasthule to St Joseph's Church, Glasthule, arriving at 6pm. Funeral Wednesday after 11am Mass to Shanganagh Cemetery. House private. No flowers please

"Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dílis"

http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5572&Itemid=81




Here is a podcast interview from 2008


http://chalkandcheese.podomatic.com/

Are peopled arsed about the presidential campaign?

I see a smear campaign has been made public against the gay nominee Norris. He seems popular with the public but that's probably more down to the amount of gay talk show hosts on our screens these days than any policy he has.

Sean Gallagher is about the best of them?

After the mind numbing week that was in it the media and other wanna bee higher class people of the country really are portraying a false impression of what the majority of the nation are thinking and it is only them and the invitees to yer wans events that say how great and remarkable this visit is.

The like of Vincent Brown, Dunphy and the whole of RTE would sicken your hole over the last 4 days of this figurehead worship horseshit.

VB had a lad on the other night who thought it was great that they gave India back?? He also stated that they will gladly give back the North when a majority vote for it.... not one person on the panel pulled him up on the fact that the majority on this island would vote to get it back. No more VB in our house after that!

I'm not anti British or anti English but the whole false nature and band wagon jumping by the press and TV over the last few days is absolute putrid reporting and does not reflect the true feelings of the vast majority. It is this bandwagon mentality of us Irish (mainly led by the media) that has us where we are today, i.e. the developers trying to out do each other in D4 and elsewhere, the banks trying to out do each other by over lending, ever tom dick and dart user having to have an apartment on the DORT line at 1/2 a mil per sq foot, all these foreign shops coming in (bring back the coops), sky and the soccer supporters trying to out do each other for the 'title', all this shit caused the crash but yet again the oneupmanship starts by inviting a figurehead over for a week of cringe.

Just wondering what other people think thats all.

Bit early for this.....?


Published by: IRD Waterville
Publication Date: 03/02/2011
Application Deadline: 
Notice Deadline Date: 25/02/2011
Notice Deadline Time: 17:00
Notice Type: Invitation to Tender
Has Documents: Yes
Abstract: Submission and Brief:
The Mick O'Dwyer Dedication Committee invites submissions for a permanent memorial sculpture for Mick O'Dwyer, which will be located alongside the public path on an area known as Mick O'Dwyer Park (Formerly Barrack Field) as selected and facilitated by an elect committee from Waterville.
The purpose of the memorial is to capture and communicate the determination and indomitable spirit of the man, in a manner that will inspire both residents of the village and visitors to the area.
The committee have selected the image/pose and wish to see a life size piece which must be constructed in a material that will be permanent and easily maintained. It is envisaged that the committee will take responsibility for the civil work related to the installation of the piece and its ongoing maintenance.
Extended Deadline
Proposals must be submitted before close of business on Friday February 25th 2011 to

Same as the rest of them? Giving out about Gov wastage buying land at inflated prices and there he is selling the land himself for 5 times more than it was worth.

He should be forced to resign ....

By Fiach Kelly and Brian McDonald


Tuesday November 02 2010

THE wife of Labour leader Eamon Gilmore was paid €10,000 earlier this year for a small parcel of land next to a site for which she had already received €525,000 from the State.

The additional €10,000 paid to educationalist Carol Hanney came from local fundraisers for a new school in Killimor, Co Galway, the Irish Independent has learned.

The money was raised over a decade through initiatives such as raffle ticket and cake sales, as well as a scheme where locals "sponsored" a brick in the new school for IR£20.

Locals have revealed they "bargained" with Ms Hanney this spring to agree the figure of €10,000 for the small parcel of land. The half-acre add-on came three years after she completed a deal for the original two-and-half-acre site for €525,000 with the Office of Public Works (OPW), acting on behalf of the Department of Education.

The Irish Independent yesterday revealed that the site was now valued somewhere between €50,000 and €100,000 because of the collapse in property and land prices.

It is currently untouched and is in the same condition as it was when Ms Hanney completed the €525,000 sale.

Killimor parish priest Fr Ciaran Kitching said locals determined that the original site was not big enough to accommodate a playground and a hurling pitch beside the school and that it needed to be expanded.

The local school committee decided it was pointless to go back to the Department of Education to ask for more money because of cutbacks and Fr Kitching said they instead dipped into money raised over the past decade.

When Fr Kitching was asked if Ms Hanney had requested a higher price, he said there was "bargaining".

He had dealt with Ms Hanney personally in negotiating the land sale and described her as a "very pleasant person". He said the add-on was needed because the Department of Education had only provided a small site.

"There is a standard size for a certain school population and we were given the standard site," he said.

Fr Kitching said people in Killimor were "delighted" with the second strip of land bought from Ms Hanney.

However, other locals, who did not wish to be named, said there was some unease in paying the €10,000 after the department had already forked out €525,000.

The controversy could prove embarrassing for the Labour leader amid growing criticisms of how the State paid inflated prices for school sites around the country during the property boom.

His own deputy leader -- finance spokeswoman Joan Burton -- hit out last year at "property tycoons" who made "a mountain of money" from selling school sites.

The site -- located on the Loughrea side of Killimor village -- was not even the preferred initial location for the national school, according to local sources.

A committee was established around 15 years ago to raise money to replace the current school, which was built in 1964.

The building, which accommodates 120 pupils, is overcrowded; some classes are held in prefabs; and children have to cross the schoolyard to the main building to use the toilets.

The principal's office is located in a staff toilet. Locals initially began fundraising when they thought they needed a deposit for the school, but the entire bill was taken over by the Department of the Education.

Local sources said they asked people to sponsor bricks of the new school for IR£20, and raised thousands doing so. Other fundraising schemes -- such as raffles and cake sales -- also went toward the new school.

The fundraising committee's account is understood to have a balance of more than €30,000, down from more than €40,000, after the €10,000 given to Ms Hanney was taken out. It is understood it was the first time money had been taken from the fund.

Inherited

Ms Hanney, who is chief executive of Dun Laoghaire VEC, sold both pieces of land from a larger site she inherited from her late mother. The Dun Laoghaire VEC has a staff of 500, and a multi-million euro budget that caters for more than 2,500 pupils.

There are 33 VECs around the country and chief executives can earn up to €146,000. Mr Gilmore, a TD for the Dun Laoghaire constituency, earns around €98,000. A spokesman for Mr Gilmore said yesterday that he had no comment to make. "Eamon has nothing to add to it," he said.

The spokesman added that he did not speak on behalf on Ms Hanney and could not pass on queries to her.

"I don't act on behalf of Carol Hanney. I can't help you."

- Fiach Kelly and Brian McDonald

Irish Independent

Has anyone else noticed the Centra advert on TV where your man is fixing his tie in front of the mirror?

He is going to a Rugby Team reunion and then the advert finishes with Centra as proud sponsors of the GAA football championship!!

This documentary is on More4 tonight at 10pm.

I saw it a while back in the IFI and it is worth a viewing. Its about the start of the internet and Josh Harris an internet entrepreneur who appeared to be a man ahead of his time. Interesting story anyhow IMO.

Recession proof jobs and no pay cut for 4 years, huge work benefits, plenty of holidays and they still grumble.

They need to wake up to reality.

Half Time in Munster Final with Limerick 3 points up and after last nights back door results I thought it was time to kick off this topic.

Is it the changing of the guard like 87, 91, 95 and 98 ?

A lot of the nearly teams over the last 20 years can fancy there chances this year IMO.

These include, Mayo, Kildare, Limerick and em Dublin.

Just noticed this on the Club Mayo Dublin site.....


Match on Friday night at 8pm in Naomh Mearnog Club, Portmarnock.

.....well Liam Hayes thinks so anyhow

Football Analyst, Liam Hayes - Capital returns at last
Dublin have used the league to find fresh faces for the summer and are looking good for a serious run at the All Ireland this year

Blue light: the appointment of Paul Griffin as Dublin captain is a good sign for the summer ahead You look at something half your life, and then one day you scratch your head and you, genuinely, ask yourself what you are looking at? Like Goofy.




We all know Goofy. We know what he looks like, we know what he sounds like, and still, when we first heard the four young chappies in that happy-sad little movie Stand By Me ask, "What's Goofy?", we all shared their dead-end conversation. Remember it?




"Mickey is a mouse," stated Gordie, "Donald is a duck. Pluto is a dog. What's Goofy?"




"He's a dog. He's definitely a dog," said Teddy.




"He can't be a dog," replied Chris. "He wears a hat, and he drives a car."




"Yeah, that is weird. What the hell is Goofy?" asks Vern, and the four little amigos continue walking along the train tracks in search, it so happens, not for a Disney cartoon character, but for the body of another young boy who is missing and presumed dead.




Next question!




What the hell are the National Leagues? Nobody ever appears to be hell-bent on winning them. All the teams in lower divisions try with all of their might to avoid relegation or gain promotion, but once teams arrive in Division One, it's all smiles and little pressure. The National League is not a competition. Whoever happens to win it refuses to be seen celebrating.




What the hell are the leagues?




Today, that question sits in the minds of the four teams competing in the Division One and Two finals in Croker, and it dwells in the conversations of their supporters too.




All the gates into the stadium could be opened wide at 8.00am today, with 'Free Admission' signs enthusiastically greeting Gaelic football fans and anybody else nosing around the place, and there'd still be 'nobody' at today's two league finals.




Our new president is kindly offering reduced prices, and letting adults in free if there's a man or a woman with 10 kids hanging out of them, but Christy Cooney probably should have gone for broke. They say there'll be 25,000 people in the ground. They'll be doing very well, I'll tell you that.




The most interesting thing for me about the last couple of months has been the utter disdain which both Kerry and Dublin have shown for the competition in 2009, but at the same time how over the last two or three months both counties ran the legs off themselves, searching high and low, behind walls and over ditches, looking for lads who might happen to be county footballers.




Kerry breezed through, unbeaten in their seven games, and in advance of this afternoon's Division One title decider against Derry, Jack O'Connor, very curiously given the ease with which Kerry have landed in the final, told us that he'd already have a fair shot at naming 12 of his starting championship 15.




If I was a Kerry supporter, I wouldn't be thrilled at hearing Jack say that, not on the evidence of the league about to end. That was Wednesday afternoon when Jack O'Connor spoke at a media day in Croke Park. Same day, in another location across the city, Dublin team boss Pat Gilroy handed out one very long sheet of paper with the names of footballers still on his training panel. The league is over for Dublin, and Pat, by my count, still has 39 lads in front of him.




Kerry and Dublin, once this league commenced, moved at some speed in different directions within Division One. Kerry north, Dublin south. A lot of positives and good performances came the way of the Kerry team boss. From Tadhg Kennelly's reappearance back home for good, to David Moran's impressive impersonation of a younger Darragh Ó Sé in the middle of the field, to Jacko's son and the other young bucks who looked ready for it when they were given their first Kerry start.




But everything has gone a little too well for Kerry. Meanwhile, for Dublin, for their geriatrics and their youngsters, the league appeared longer and harder, and every point gathered, whether it was way over in Charlestown against Mayo or back home in Parnell Park against Kerry – and let's not forget those two most valuable points of all taken on Donegal soil – can safely be classified as character-building by Pat Gilroy and his trusty old right arm, Mickey Whelan.




I'd say Mickey, more than Pat, is quietly (extremely) pleased with where things are for The Dubs. This week, without any game, two things happened which can help Dublin finally win 'The Big One' in '09. Paul Griffin was named team captain. Griffin is a defender, and his position in defence has still to be determined. But he is in my book, braver on the ball than any other Dublin player – creative, calm, and without too much unnecessary emotion or theatrics. This is good news for Dublin. The other boost, or jolt if you like, for the entire Dublin squad was the sudden retirement of 28-year-old Collie Moran.




If – and I have a sneaking suspicion it might even be a when – Dublin are crowned 2009 All Ireland champions, you'll hear every second player mention that Collie Moran's forced retirement due to an unforgiving hip, reminded him and him and him just how sudden the dream can die. Too many of this Dublin football team have given the impression that they have forever to win their first All Ireland medal. The team's mentality this summer will have Last Chance Saloon embedded within it.




But there's more I like about Dublin, starting with the two principal members of the management team. Mickey Whelan, in good days and bad days, has always thought and talked like a winner. And Gilroy – only a pup in the management stakes when compared with hardened, medaled-generals like Jack O'Connor and Mickey Harte – will have been told by Whelan that he has as much chance of winning that All Ireland in his first year as Dublin team boss, as he has in year three, four or five. Gilroy, like a great many people in Gaelic football, will have believed Mickey as well.




And there's also so much to like about so many of the new faces on the field. The Dublin defence needed to be broken down and rebuilt, and that appears to have successfully come to pass. Alan Hubbard has been strong and quick in the full-back line, and Denis Bastick definitely thinks and plays like the string of safe, tight full-backs who were so good for Dublin right through the '80s and '90s. No full-forward is going to like being in Bastick's company for 70 minutes. Ger Brennan looks like a man wanting to play total-football this summer. So too David Henry. I'm believing there's real energy in this Dublin team which, if topped up with self-belief thanks to a couple of the right wins in the early stages of the championship, can amount to something different, and something we have not seen from Dublin in over a decade.




The release of Ross McConnell from the number three jersey is a further 'win' for Gilroy and Whelan. McConnell has ball-winning ability, which is less important in Gaelic football than ever before, but he's also got a fine work ethic, and he's got vision on the ball. I'd keep Darren Magee with him, and save Ciaran Whelan and Shane Ryan, sometimes starting either one of them in the half-forward line, but mostly keeping the pair of them for 20-minute roles in games.




You know where this is going, because I've already suggested that this is a team which can win this All Ireland. I honestly do! There's going to be a greater mixture of young and old blood in the Dublin team than we've seen in years, and in between there are two or three lads who might also feel it in their gut that this is the season. Injury-free, the Brogans, could be dynamic, but personally I've given up on them ever getting a full lash at it for one summer without one or the other, Bernard or Alan, having to pull up. For Dublin, it will be more interesting to see if Mark Vaughan turn up in Croker in June and play as confidently and supremely as Ray Cosgrove did in 2002. That can happen. A surer thing is Conal Keaney make a good effort at being the country's number one forward in the championship. He's the sort of full-forward, and he should always be full-forward, who, if he explodes for a full month, especially for four weeks in August and September, can convince the whole team that this is Dublin's year.




Me? I've never liked Dublin more than I have this spring. I still think they might lose to Meath in the first round in Leinster, who knows? But a loss so early on might further reinforce the character of Pat Gilroy's team. Anyhow, Dublin don't need a Leinster! Leave that for Meath, because that's all Meath are going to be capable of winning this year.




If Mickey Whelan has not already put that thought into the heads of one or two of the older lads, he'll be all set to announce it within minutes of Dublin 'crashing' out of Leinster.

CASTLEMAINE sportsfield, which is at the centre of a bitter dispute between local GAA and soccer clubs, was ploughed on the instructions of the GAA before the weekend.

Following the nighttime ploughing of the sportsfield, which is regularly used by the local soccer club, a hole was dug in the middle of Milltown/ Castlemaine GAA pitch late on Saturday night, forcing an under-21 game to be moved to another venue on Sunday afternoon.

County GAA Board Chairman Jerome Conway confirmed to The Kerryman that the sportsfield, which is the home ground of Castlemaine United soccer club, was ploughed on instructions from the GAA on Thursday. Soccer goalposts standing in the middle of the field are the only remaining evidence of sporting exploits there.

While local groups dispute the GAA's claim to exclusive ownership of the sportsfield, Mr Conway insisted the board had acted within its rights. In October, Milltown/ Castlemaine GAA Club was granted planning permission to redevelop the pitch, erect floodlights and construct a car park and associated services, despite an application from the soccer club for leave of appeal.

"The property belongs to the GAA and there's no debate about ownership as there is documentation there," Mr Conway stated, adding: "Of course the field was ploughed by the GAA".

Asked why the actions had been carried out in darkness, Mr Conway said he was unsure.

"The long term objective is to develop the pitch properly as there is a slope on it. We have been given a directive by Croke Park to use the property according to the rules and that's what we are doing," he added.

The actions mean that local soccer club Castlemaine United are now without a home ground, despite having used the pitch since their inception two decades ago. The suspension of GAA's Rule 42, banning soccer from the association's pitches, does not apply outside Croke Park.

The newly-formed Castlemaine Community Sportsfield Action Group — representing local community groups including Castlemaine United AFC — are furious that the GAA has had the pitch ploughed.

The group argues that the sportsfield was originally handed over to the general community by the Spring Walker family in 1936, had always been a community field and had merely been placed in the trust of the GAA. They point to carnivals, community fairs, sheep shearing, dog shows, tennis and basketball events held in the sportsfield to support their claim.

At a fiery meeting hosted by the group in Castlemaine Community Centre on Monday night, plans were initiated for a community-wide petition condemning the GAA's actions, with possible protest also planned outside Kerry County Board offices.

"This is the greatest bit of scamping I've seen for a long time," one angry action group member stated.

"Our group has had to resort to blockading and chaining. We will cover the entrance with cars every night if we have to," chairman Charlie Boyle stated.

Others present at Monday's meeting claimed the actions were "an insult to the children of the community". "Our event in June has gone, as has the Easter camp here," one stated.

"It is now very cheeky of the GAA club to come over and do their lotto draw in our village," the group's assistant PRO Brendan O'Reilly added.

The community group is now planning to reseed the pitch and a call for locals to help remove stones from the ground will be made in the coming days.

The action group is to lodge a petition with the Circuit Court seeking an injunction restraining Milltown Castlemaine GAA club from further interference at the site.

Meanhile, former senior captain of Milltown Castlemaine GAA club and player manager of Castlemaine United AFC, Jason Giles expressed his dismay at the recent developments and has decided to take action: "I will not be renewing my membership with Milltown/ Castlemaine GAA, a club I've been a lifelong member of. It's nothing against the players but I've been given no choice following this."

How many of the Taxi drivers on the protest today got their plate recently, i.e during deregulation. It is a bit of a contradiction that they are now protesting and want regulation back.

However, I do feel some sort of sympathy with them as there are now over 40,000 plates in Dublin.

I'm just wondering what other peoples views are here and are their actions justified?

Brogan reckons Dublin players are singled out and its one rule for them and one rule for the rest of the country after his appeal failed, even though Meath got stiffer sentances.

"Its the way it is when you're playing with Dublin. there's always that extra eye, the media attention is always a lot bigger with Dublin" (he told reporters  )

"Its definitely something you learn from, the next day you go out you won't go into a melee as hot-headed maybe as you would in other times" ---- the last 7 words sum up the Pillar era, its as if these lads think its normal. At least the lad appears to have learned his lesson (for a while).

Last Updated: 23/04/2008  22:07
Nude artist seeks subjects

A controversial photographer famous for his installations of crowds of naked people is bringing his artwork to Ireland, it emerged today.

Internationally acclaimed contemporary artist Spencer Tunick wants naked volunteers to become part of his first back to back city art project in Dublin and Cork this June.

Groups of nude participants will be photographed outdoors as part of his series of installations that have taken place in cities around the world

The Cork installation will take place on Tuesday, June 17, followed by Dublin Docklands on Saturday, June 21.

Tunick said those who pose are everyday people, with less than 1% made up of nudists or naturalists.

"It's 99% everyday people like social workers, artists, landscapers," he said.

"They are not exhibitionists. They just do this collaborative art project once in their life and they might never get naked for an artist again.

Events in Ireland are being staged by Dublin Docklands Development Authority and Cork Midsummer Festival. Everyone taking part must be aged over 18 and has to register in advance at www.spencertunickireland.ie.

In exchange for taking part, the models will receive a limited edition photograph from the event they attended. PA

History repeating itself here.

Is this new breed of Dub trying to emulate the team of 25 years ago?