GAA funding issues verus Athletes

Started by Baile Brigín 2, January 22, 2021, 01:55:04 AM

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armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

All the people in any sporting' social or cultural body pay taxes. Its not an argument to pay a group of them from the public purse

armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

All the people in any sporting' social or cultural body pay taxes. Its not an argument to pay a group of them from the public purse

It is a reason to use taxpayers money for things of interest to the public.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

gallsman

Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
My argument is that both are deserving of state aid support. Not one at the expense of the other.

Jerry was miffed that GAA players were rewarded. He shouldnt have been.

He wasn't miffed at GAA players being rewarded - he was miffed at the money to reward them being taken from the pot intended for elite athletes as he didn't consider them a such and it reduced the funding available for Olympic and World Championship calibre athletes who trained every day of their lives.

gallsman

Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

I'd not be overly confident of that to be honest.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

All the people in any sporting' social or cultural body pay taxes. Its not an argument to pay a group of them from the public purse

It is a reason to use taxpayers money for things of interest to the public.

They are just random words

armaghniac

Quote from: gallsman on January 22, 2021, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

I'd not be overly confident of that to be honest.

Perhaps not where you are, but I expect people in South Armagh pay their taxes.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: bannside on January 22, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Without one shadow of a doubt Peter Quinn brought the GAA much further forward as sporting organisation....to a place where it could be respectfully considered as Irelands premier sport. Up to then it had been looked down on by many as the sport of bogmen. But PQ changed that.

The GAA has done more for the country on multiple levels than a few middle or long distance runners, and Im not disrespecting the deceased views by stating that as a fact.

Im not saying dont fund elite athletes that can bring great honour and excitement to the country (Katie Walsh et al). But not at the expense of respecting the efforts of the hundreds of inter county gaa players who consistently deliver months on end of high skill and endeavour to the Irish nation year after year.

Also an argument for professionalism.

Why should the taxpayer be on the hook?

Because all the people in the GAA pay taxes?

All the people in any sporting' social or cultural body pay taxes. Its not an argument to pay a group of them from the public purse

It is a reason to use taxpayers money for things of interest to the public.

They are just random words

What an incisive response.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Brigin is back in his element "Gah bad" ::)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 09:11:07 PM
Brigin is back in his element "Gah bad" ::)

How is wanting to retain amateur status 'Gah bad'?

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 22, 2021, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 09:11:07 PM
Brigin is back in his element "Gah bad" ::)

How is wanting to retain amateur status 'Gah bad'?

To be honest I don't think BB is on that train at all. At the time Kiernan was giving off about the GAA getting preference. The funny thing is that's not the GAAs fault but it is actually the funding bodies responsibility. They are the ones who allocated the funding. The GAA obviously had a strong lobby than the Irish athletics, and there is nothing wrong with that. He was pissed at suggestions that GAA players were just as fit. They have a different type of fitness as sports are not comparable but Olympic athletes train more and therefor need further assistance and that's a simple fact.

I remember at the time thinking that Ireland had an opportunity as there were a number of sports people, across a number of events, who were just a step below the top level. Boxing, cycling, laterally rowing and also athletics who could push on with the right support. The Government didn't fund them and many had to go to England or the US for support and facilities.