The Many Faces of US Politics...

[Gmac]

Whatever you think of Trump it can't be disputed that the current administration is the worst ever with a dementia patient (Von Hindenburg ) as president while the nazis work in the background, remember whatever they call you is in fact what they are .

[Gabriel_Hurl]

The AI ChatGPT chatbots are getting worse

[J70]

The AI ChatGPT chatbots are getting worse

I don't know. I'd expect something coherent and somewhat sensible from those Chat GPT yokes.

[J70]

David Frum (from The Atlantic)

MARCH 30, 2023, 7:19 PM ET

The first Catholic. The first African American. Someday, maybe soon, the first woman. The history of the presidency is a history of firsts. Now there is one more: the first former president to be indicted.

It's a solemn and sad moment. It's also a fiercely just moment.

Remember that although Donald Trump's indictment in New York has been confirmed by one of his attorneys, we do not yet know, as of the evening of Thursday, March 30, what he has been indicted for. When Trump himself circulated the first rumors of his pending indictment, many reacted with rapid comments on the inadvisability of indicting a former president for offenses arising from a sexual affair, a reservation I share. But it's also possible that this reported indictment arises from the Trump Organization's decades-long practices of criminal tax fraud.

In 2018, The New York Times reported that the Trump family had allegedly evaded hundreds of millions of dollars in estate taxes through complex schemes of false invoicing. In 2022, a New York State court convicted the Trump Organization of evading income taxes through false invoicing. When it came time to pay off women who claimed to have had sexual connections with Trump, he allegedly reverted to long-standing practice.

This is how the Trump case might diverge from that of John Edwards, the former Democratic presidential candidate charged with diverting campaign funds to a former lover. The case against Trump might not be a sex-payoff case, or even a campaign-finance case. It could fundamentally be a tax-fraud case, the latest installment of a multigenerational criminal practice that has cheated the people of the United States and New York of huge amounts of money.


More indictments by more states in more cases may be filed soon. Donald Trump is not an occasional lawbreaker. He incited the mob that ended the American tradition of the peaceful transfer of power—and that inflicted unnecessary injury and avoidable death both upon law-enforcement officers and Trump's own deceived supporters. He tried to intimidate state-level election officials to manipulate vote totals to fraudulently preserve his hold on office. The jeopardy will only accumulate.

Trump may regard the present indictment and those to come as a political resource. He has surged in Republican polls since he announced the indictment was on its way. His leading party rival has deflated in the polls. Trump has raised millions of dollars on the news, and may in the next hours raise many more. There's no denying that he's now the overwhelming favorite to be the next Republican nominee, and therefore stands an excellent chance of winning the presidency in 2024.

Atop all the other questions on the ballot in that election, therefore, will be this: Crime and violence and Trump, or law and the Constitution—where do you stand?

Good God, where does his Republican Party and mine now stand? The wrong is overwhelming and the shame is crushing—but the only decent choice for the honest and patriotic American is now starker, purer, and more certain than ever

[J70]

But remember, the Dems are all Nazis and Biden is von Hindenburg (who is Hitler in this parable Gmac is preaching to us fresh from the fever swamps??).

Trump is a victim; he is not corrupt, he doesn't incite violence, he doesn't flout the law, he doesn't try to steal elections and he is absolutely undeserving of any of the charges which are coming his way in two states and from the feds.

[whitey]

But remember, the Dems are all Nazis and Biden is von Hindenburg (who is Hitler in this parable Gmac is preaching to us fresh from the fever swamps??).

Trump is a victim; he is not corrupt, he doesn't incite violence, he doesn't flout the law, he doesn't try to steal elections and he is absolutely undeserving of any of the charges which are coming his way in two states and from the feds.

All true J70

Let's see if the Democrats can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again

The culture wars have come to my town-it's very interesting and it's actually getting the conservatives in the area completely fired up

Did you know that if you question whether a book was properly vetted before being placed in the junior high school library you "are committing a hate crime against  trans and LBGTQ youth and you are both committing and inciting violence against them"

[Gmac]

But remember, the Dems are all Nazis and Biden is von Hindenburg (who is Hitler in this parable Gmac is preaching to us fresh from the fever swamps??).

Trump is a victim; he is not corrupt, he doesn't incite violence, he doesn't flout the law, he doesn't try to steal elections and he is absolutely undeserving of any of the charges which are coming his way in two states and from the feds.

after 3 kids and 3 adults were shot in Tennessee Monday biden proceeded to give a speech where he talked about ice cream non stop the man's an embarrassment  and the country will not recover from this administration im afraid

[J70]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

[whitey]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

Yes-Trump should be convicted and GA is the strongest case

BUT.....according to what I've read and heard.....it's a weak case in NY

If Bragg fails to get a conviction, it is really good for Trump

[J70]

But remember, the Dems are all Nazis and Biden is von Hindenburg (who is Hitler in this parable Gmac is preaching to us fresh from the fever swamps??).

Trump is a victim; he is not corrupt, he doesn't incite violence, he doesn't flout the law, he doesn't try to steal elections and he is absolutely undeserving of any of the charges which are coming his way in two states and from the feds.

after 3 kids and 3 adults were shot in Tennessee Monday biden proceeded to give a speech where he talked about ice cream non stop the man's an embarrassment  and the country will not recover from this administration im afraid

He made a single, throw away joke at the start of a speech which was not a press conference, then he made remarks on the murders. Not his best moment maybe, but pretty far from what you describe.

Meanwhile, you have f**k all to say about Trump threatening and fomenting violence should the legal authorities have the temerity to hold him to account, and nothing to say about him posting a photo of him literally taking a baseball bat to the head of the Manhattan DA like Robert DeNiro in The Untouchables.

[J70]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

Yes-Trump should be convicted and GA is the strongest case

BUT.....according to what I've read and heard.....it's a weak case in NY

If Bragg fails to get a conviction, it is really good for Trump

Maybe, and I do share those fears at this point, but I also think that it is a good thing that he is not above the law.

[whitey]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

Yes-Trump should be convicted and GA is the strongest case

BUT.....according to what I've read and heard.....it's a weak case in NY

If Bragg fails to get a conviction, it is really good for Trump

Maybe, and I do share those fears at this point, but I also think that it is a good thing that he is not above the law.

There are plenty of people who should not be above the law , but seemingly are

Maybe Trump will be fined $100K like Hillary for a campaign finance violation

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/03/30/dnc-clinton-campaign-fine-dossier-spending-disclosure-00021910

[J70]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

Yes-Trump should be convicted and GA is the strongest case

BUT.....according to what I've read and heard.....it's a weak case in NY

If Bragg fails to get a conviction, it is really good for Trump

Maybe, and I do share those fears at this point, but I also think that it is a good thing that he is not above the law.

There are plenty of people who should not be above the law , but seemingly are

Maybe Trump will be fined $100K like Hillary for a campaign finance violation

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/03/30/dnc-clinton-campaign-fine-dossier-spending-disclosure-00021910

If its the same thing, then of course the punishment should be the same.

[Gmac]

Yes whitey, and a school principal got the sack in Florida because of Michaelangelo's David. A professor, also in Florida, got the sack because one parent objected to a racial justice lesson he taught that had been part of his course for 12 years.

There's idiots all around.

Do YOU think Trump should not be held accountable? Is he above the law that the rest of us are subject to? Has he no case to answer for January 6th? For his shenanigans in GA in the 2020 election?

Cohen got severely punished for his role in the payoffs to the porn star and the other woman. Should there be no accountability whatsoever for the man whose bidding he was doing and who tried to fraudulently hide the repayments?

Yes-Trump should be convicted and GA is the strongest case

BUT.....according to what I've read and heard.....it's a weak case in NY

If Bragg fails to get a conviction, it is really good for Trump

Maybe, and I do share those fears at this point, but I also think that it is a good thing that he is not above the law.

There are plenty of people who should not be above the law , but seemingly are

Maybe Trump will be fined $100K like Hillary for a campaign finance violation

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/03/30/dnc-clinton-campaign-fine-dossier-spending-disclosure-00021910

If its the same thing, then of course the punishment should be the same.

this is news to j70 , Hillary actually paid for the fake Steele dossier ffs

[nrico2006]

What did Trump do wrong regarding the porn star? Give her bucks to keep her quiet? Is that a crime?