The Fine Gael thread

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Shinners upset at being reminded of their murderous criminal past in the 26 Counties.
Aw diddums.

John Hume publicly condemned each of the terrorist acts you mentioned, so you know you're on the right side, despite the frenzied reaction!

The question though is, is there any real remaining link between current Sinn Fein and those who committed or ordered the murders of innocents?
Because if there's no link it would not be fair to criticize. I'm sure the celebratory songs in bad taste will be kept private in future.
The biggest uncertainty surrounds the Council that oversees SF policy and decision making, and how SF and their supporters don't like to admit it exists or talk about their real leaders, and instead continue the pretence that Mary Lou is the leader!

The link still exists.

[trueblue1234]

What an insulting comnent to the relatives of all those servants of this State murdered by your favourite political "movement".
I know you lot have airbrushed them from the narrative but most of us here know their names without Google.

Funny how the Quinn family hasnt been mentioned since the last election isn't it? Would it be possible that the media and other political parties don't give a shite about any of it until it suits them to try and buy votes? Most people can see through it, pity you can't.

Really?
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mum-of-murdered-ira-victim-paul-quinn-hopeful-of-justice-after-intervention-of-garda-commissioner-drew-harris-40806752.html

The context of that post was the Southern Media which during the last General Election cozied up with FF and FG and used the Quinns at every turn to try and effect the results of the election - print and tv media all aligned. The article you have provided is rare and is from a Northern Paper. You cannot seriously be saying the same level of scrutiny of the Quinn case existed after that General Election? I am afraid the FF and FG parties and their buddies chewed up the Quinns and spat them out when they were done with them. They don't care about him or his mother.

Took me 5  secs to find, issued in last few weeks, whether the free state media care or not is not relevant really in the bigger schemes of this shocking murder for me.

I dont deny it was a shocking murder carried out by scumbags who I hope get what's coming to them. My issue is the media down here don't care one bit about it and neither do FF and FG, they used it to throw mud at SF hoping it would stick - it didnt as the electorate have had enough of their crap down here.

Thats politics

So you'll be quite happy for SF to do the same, to deflect and distract. Otherwise you'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

I can't see where I said I was happy with anything

So you'll not complain in the future if a SF supporter does likewise? I'm going to call BS on that.

Anyway job done by Rossfan and Hound. Well played.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

What an insulting comnent to the relatives of all those servants of this State murdered by your favourite political "movement".
I know you lot have airbrushed them from the narrative but most of us here know their names without Google.

Funny how the Quinn family hasnt been mentioned since the last election isn't it? Would it be possible that the media and other political parties don't give a shite about any of it until it suits them to try and buy votes? Most people can see through it, pity you can't.

Really?
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mum-of-murdered-ira-victim-paul-quinn-hopeful-of-justice-after-intervention-of-garda-commissioner-drew-harris-40806752.html

The context of that post was the Southern Media which during the last General Election cozied up with FF and FG and used the Quinns at every turn to try and effect the results of the election - print and tv media all aligned. The article you have provided is rare and is from a Northern Paper. You cannot seriously be saying the same level of scrutiny of the Quinn case existed after that General Election? I am afraid the FF and FG parties and their buddies chewed up the Quinns and spat them out when they were done with them. They don't care about him or his mother.

Took me 5  secs to find, issued in last few weeks, whether the free state media care or not is not relevant really in the bigger schemes of this shocking murder for me.

I dont deny it was a shocking murder carried out by scumbags who I hope get what's coming to them. My issue is the media down here don't care one bit about it and neither do FF and FG, they used it to throw mud at SF hoping it would stick - it didnt as the electorate have had enough of their crap down here.

Thats politics

So you'll be quite happy for SF to do the same, to deflect and distract. Otherwise you'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

I can't see where I said I was happy with anything

So you'll not complain in the future if a SF supporter does likewise? I'm going to call BS on that.

Anyway job done by Rossfan and Hound. Well played.

Oh I will and do, it's what I said , politics, entirely littered with hypocrisy at every level and within every party . Grow up and get with it

[trueblue1234]

What an insulting comnent to the relatives of all those servants of this State murdered by your favourite political "movement".
I know you lot have airbrushed them from the narrative but most of us here know their names without Google.

Funny how the Quinn family hasnt been mentioned since the last election isn't it? Would it be possible that the media and other political parties don't give a shite about any of it until it suits them to try and buy votes? Most people can see through it, pity you can't.

Really?
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mum-of-murdered-ira-victim-paul-quinn-hopeful-of-justice-after-intervention-of-garda-commissioner-drew-harris-40806752.html

The context of that post was the Southern Media which during the last General Election cozied up with FF and FG and used the Quinns at every turn to try and effect the results of the election - print and tv media all aligned. The article you have provided is rare and is from a Northern Paper. You cannot seriously be saying the same level of scrutiny of the Quinn case existed after that General Election? I am afraid the FF and FG parties and their buddies chewed up the Quinns and spat them out when they were done with them. They don't care about him or his mother.

Took me 5  secs to find, issued in last few weeks, whether the free state media care or not is not relevant really in the bigger schemes of this shocking murder for me.

I dont deny it was a shocking murder carried out by scumbags who I hope get what's coming to them. My issue is the media down here don't care one bit about it and neither do FF and FG, they used it to throw mud at SF hoping it would stick - it didnt as the electorate have had enough of their crap down here.

Thats politics

So you'll be quite happy for SF to do the same, to deflect and distract. Otherwise you'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

I can't see where I said I was happy with anything

So you'll not complain in the future if a SF supporter does likewise? I'm going to call BS on that.

Anyway job done by Rossfan and Hound. Well played.

Oh I will and do, it's what I said , politics, entirely littered with hypocrisy at every level and within every party . Grow up and get with it

Grow up, really? After that BS.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

What an insulting comnent to the relatives of all those servants of this State murdered by your favourite political "movement".
I know you lot have airbrushed them from the narrative but most of us here know their names without Google.

Funny how the Quinn family hasnt been mentioned since the last election isn't it? Would it be possible that the media and other political parties don't give a shite about any of it until it suits them to try and buy votes? Most people can see through it, pity you can't.

Really?
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mum-of-murdered-ira-victim-paul-quinn-hopeful-of-justice-after-intervention-of-garda-commissioner-drew-harris-40806752.html

The context of that post was the Southern Media which during the last General Election cozied up with FF and FG and used the Quinns at every turn to try and effect the results of the election - print and tv media all aligned. The article you have provided is rare and is from a Northern Paper. You cannot seriously be saying the same level of scrutiny of the Quinn case existed after that General Election? I am afraid the FF and FG parties and their buddies chewed up the Quinns and spat them out when they were done with them. They don't care about him or his mother.

Took me 5  secs to find, issued in last few weeks, whether the free state media care or not is not relevant really in the bigger schemes of this shocking murder for me.

I dont deny it was a shocking murder carried out by scumbags who I hope get what's coming to them. My issue is the media down here don't care one bit about it and neither do FF and FG, they used it to throw mud at SF hoping it would stick - it didnt as the electorate have had enough of their crap down here.

Thats politics

So you'll be quite happy for SF to do the same, to deflect and distract. Otherwise you'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

I can't see where I said I was happy with anything

So you'll not complain in the future if a SF supporter does likewise? I'm going to call BS on that.

Anyway job done by Rossfan and Hound. Well played.

Oh I will and do, it's what I said , politics, entirely littered with hypocrisy at every level and within every party . Grow up and get with it

Grow up, really? After that BS.

My das bigger than your da

[Rossfan]

Anything that differs from the Shinner manual  is "BS" according to their gaaboard spokesperson

[trueblue1234]

Anything that differs from the Shinner manual  is "BS" according to their gaaboard spokesperson

It's all there Rossfan. Everyone can see your posts. Nowhere to hide.

[Snapchap]

Lest Hound, Rossfan and their Derry lapdog succeed in distracting everyone, the story here is Fine Gael corruption. A story which, believe it or not,  has precisely nothing to do with the IRA.

[trueblue1234]

Lest Hound, Rossfan and their Derry lapdog succeed in distracting everyone, the story here is Fine Gael corruption. A story which, believe it or not,  has precisely nothing to do with the IRA.

Whatsboutery Snapchat. We're discussing SF's actions don't cha know.

If it wasn't as blatant as RossFan's attempt, it would usually work. However in his panic, he didn't even manage to do it tactfully. An embarrassing attempt.

[Rossfan]

Yep,
Only in Shinnerland is trying to fix up a crony with a part time job a worse crime than murdering State employees.
How many widows and orphans would have been created if Zappone got that role?

[trueblue1234]

Yep,
Only in Shinnerland is trying to fix up a crony with a part time job a worse crime than murdering State employees.
How many widows and orphans would have been created if Zappone got that role?

Most people can debate incidents on their own merit. Some  would prefer to try and deflect and distract. Your just keen to double down on your earlier embarrassment.

[Snapchap]

Yep,
Only in Shinnerland is trying to fix up a crony with a part time job a worse crime than murdering State employees.
How many widows and orphans would have been created if Zappone got that role?

Oh right, so we can't talk about this story of FG corruption, because the IRA? Gotcha.

[Rossfan]

We can.
Provos on the other hand are in no position to hypocritically lecture anyone about right and wrong.

[Itchy]

Have it your way Rosfan and let's start again.

The other day the Labour Party voted no confidence in Simon Coveney for cronyism. Care to comment on the rights or wrongs of that (I assume you won't be linking Labour to anything else that stops you addressing the matter at hand)

[Snapchap]

We can.
Provos on the other hand are in no position to hypocritically lecture anyone about right and wrong.

lol so the Sinn Féin TDs are all provos and despite being elected, should not be allowed to perform their role of opposition?

Ye have no f**king shame. Lecturing about respect for the dead while simultaneously dragging a few names from the grave to use and abuse, and all because you can't bear to see your beloved blueshirts being called out for another act of political corruption.

And the best part is, the penny STILL hasn't dropped with you and your ilk about just how counter-productive the "yeah but what about the ra" line is when trotted out as a defence of FFG skulduggery/incompetence. People can see through that tactic from a mile off. Time has moved on. It's 2021, not 1971. Join the rest of us here when you are good and ready.