The Fine Gael thread

[Rossfan]

The €3 a week public water charge that SF and the loonyleft have saved for middle class town and city dwellers ( who wouldn't vote for either lot) would have amounted to around €200m.
This figure has now to come from other public monies.
That would have built around 1,000 social houses which would be the kind of thing real socialist and left wingers would be doing.

But nit in Paddyfantasyland. No!
Better to have thousands in emergency accommodation so pygmy brained politicians can lick middle class arses.

As for Regina - pain in the butt but Shinnerbots may have a bigger problem.

[heffo]

Maybe I missed her opinion on the massive debt write downs and state contracts awarded to friends of Blueshirt Inc. She is your typical FG mouth. Arrogant 'do as I say attitude' dripping with hypocrisy. You give a dig to Wallace while backing  Doherty's 'mandate'. Admirable whataboutery. Wallace has done great work in the Dail re Garda whistleblowers and Nama. Doherty spends her time attacking Sinn Fein and hypocritically telling people to pay their bills.

Again that's democracy - you're free to criticise her opinions. Free to tell others not to vote for her next time.

Just like Sinn Fein are free to criticise the Govt's social housing policy while objecting to the building of social houses (See Dublin Mid-West before Christmas) at the same time.

Please keep on topic. This is about Doherty and her hypocrisy, not Sinn Fein. What was her opinion on large debt write downs, Moriarty etc?

I've no idea what her opinion is, nor do I care - I didn't vote for her.

[Canalman]

The €3 a week public water charge that SF and the loonyleft have saved for middle class town and city dwellers ( who wouldn't vote for either lot) would have amounted to around €200m.
This figure has now to come from other public monies.
That would have built around 1,000 social houses which would be the kind of thing real socialist and left wingers would be doing.

But nit in Paddyfantasyland. No!
Better to have thousands in emergency accommodation so pygmy brained politicians can lick middle class arses.





As for Regina - pain in the butt but Shinnerbots may have a bigger problem.

And there was me thinking it was FF and FG  in the last couple of weeks that put them on hold.

[Hound]

Her business failed .  These things do happen and will continue to happen .

Her political career is a seperate matter , and remember she has a "mandate ".  She requested people pay what the democratically elected government decided should be paid .

Folk playing the woman , not the ball.

So you think someone who 'failed' like Regina Doherty should be one of the people in charge of the country?
It shouldn't make anyone very comfortable that such a "businesswoman" holds such power in the state with that track record.

Clearly the people who elected her believe that - it's called Democracy.

The other option is to have some unelected shadowy council run by nice rural men calling the shots.

Are there any other arms of the democratic state you don't believe in? The Gardai? The Defence forces?

He is attacking her, and will continue to attack her over and over, because of her idiotic attack on Gerry Adams. But he denies membership of the Gerry Adams fan club.

Its a fantastic conundrum. Foxy hates the Democrats because of their (half hearted at best) social / liberal policies, but loves Sinn Fein!

[mikehunt]

Maybe I missed her opinion on the massive debt write downs and state contracts awarded to friends of Blueshirt Inc. She is your typical FG mouth. Arrogant 'do as I say attitude' dripping with hypocrisy. You give a dig to Wallace while backing  Doherty's 'mandate'. Admirable whataboutery. Wallace has done great work in the Dail re Garda whistleblowers and Nama. Doherty spends her time attacking Sinn Fein and hypocritically telling people to pay their bills.

Again that's democracy - you're free to criticise her opinions. Free to tell others not to vote for her next time.

Just like Sinn Fein are free to criticise the Govt's social housing policy while objecting to the building of social houses (See Dublin Mid-West before Christmas) at the same time.

Please keep on topic. This is about Doherty and her hypocrisy, not Sinn Fein. What was her opinion on large debt write downs, Moriarty etc?

I've no idea what her opinion is, nor do I care - I didn't vote for her.

But you're ok with her being a hypocrite? No wonder the likes of her and Lowry get elected if your representative of the electorate.

[Rossfan]

The €3 a week public water charge that SF and the loonyleft have saved for middle class town and city dwellers ( who wouldn't vote for either lot) would have amounted to around €200m.
This figure has now to come from other public monies.
That would have built around 1,000 social houses which would be the kind of thing real socialist and left wingers would be doing.

But nit in Paddyfantasyland. No!
Better to have thousands in emergency accommodation so pygmy brained politicians can lick middle class arses.

Ru



As for Regina - pain in the butt but Shinnerbots may have a bigger problem.

And there was me thinking it was FF and FG  in the last couple of weeks that put them on hold.

Not at all. It's seemingly a stunning victory for leftie  street politics.
I'm sure the families living in hotels and b and b will be delighted with them.

[foxcommander]

The other option is to have some unelected shadowy council run by nice rural men calling the shots.

I think they're called Fianna Fail and right now they sorta do call the shots

[foxcommander]

Her business failed .  These things do happen and will continue to happen .

Her political career is a seperate matter , and remember she has a "mandate ".  She requested people pay what the democratically elected government decided should be paid .

Folk playing the woman , not the ball.

So you think someone who 'failed' like Regina Doherty should be one of the people in charge of the country?
It shouldn't make anyone very comfortable that such a "businesswoman" holds such power in the state with that track record.

Clearly the people who elected her believe that - it's called Democracy.

The other option is to have some unelected shadowy council run by nice rural men calling the shots.

Are there any other arms of the democratic state you don't believe in? The Gardai? The Defence forces?

He is attacking her, and will continue to attack her over and over, because of her idiotic attack on Gerry Adams. But he denies membership of the Gerry Adams fan club.

Muppet - this isn't about Gerry although her vitriol towards him was the reason which outed Regina's underlying thoughts the people over *that* side of the border. I'd be saying the same thing if she had said it in response to Vincent Browne or any other politician.

Her remarks show her unfit to be a politician and she leaves a lot to be desired about her attitude to fellow irish citizens. It's worrying that she is in any position of power in the state.

FG voters in Meath would have voted in a cabbage (actually they pretty much did) if it had been presented on the ballot, i don't think it's an endorsement of ms Doherty's political skills.

[mikehunt]

The €3 a week public water charge that SF and the loonyleft have saved for middle class town and city dwellers ( who wouldn't vote for either lot) would have amounted to around €200m.
This figure has now to come from other public monies.
That would have built around 1,000 social houses which would be the kind of thing real socialist and left wingers would be doing.

But nit in Paddyfantasyland. No!
Better to have thousands in emergency accommodation so pygmy brained politicians can lick middle class arses.

Ru



As for Regina - pain in the butt but Shinnerbots may have a bigger problem.

And there was me thinking it was FF and FG  in the last couple of weeks that put them on hold.

Not at all. It's seemingly a stunning victory for leftie  street politics.
I'm sure the families living in hotels and b and b will be delighted with them.

As if you care a jot about the homeless. You only care about your own pocket.

[foxcommander]

PMSL - Labour want their money back for water...
So anyone who looks for a refund will be the same as those who wouldn't pay. Take note all you advocates on here - will you stay on your high moral ground?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0512/787930-water-charges/

[mikehunt]

PMSL - Labour want their money back for water...
So anyone who looks for a refund will be the same as those who wouldn't pay. Take note all you advocates on here - will you stay on your high moral ground?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0512/787930-water-charges/

Armaghniac has already admitted he doesn't actually want to pay twice for water and will apply for the refund. At least he had the honesty to admit it. Few others on here slating protesters who will no doubt look for the refund. Poor ol Rossfan will miss out again.

[armaghniac]

Armaghniac has already admitted he doesn't actually want to pay twice for water and will apply for the refund. At least he had the honesty to admit it. Few others on here slating protesters who will no doubt look for the refund. Poor ol Rossfan will miss out again.

In no sense was I paying twice for water, but if others are not to have to pay, why should I?

[Rossfan]

As one of 4 or 500,000 households without a public water supply or public sewer we've always paid for water.
Yet we have to pay the same tax as an equivalent townie household now to get water paid for by ALL taxpayers.
That's no vote for any FGite next time as well as FF,SF, loonies or Naughten.

As for the public water charges - if the protestors, pay for nothing spongers etc who didn't pay aren't prosecuted or gave it added to their LPT then of course the Law abiding citizens should get theirs refunded.
So that's €330m plus the €200m foregone.
2,500 social houses.
Well done!!

[mikehunt]

As one of 4 or 500,000 households without a public water supply or public sewer we've always paid for water.
Yet we have to pay the same tax as an equivalent townie household now to get water paid for by ALL taxpayers.
That's no vote for any FGite next time as well as FF,SF, loonies or Naughten.

As for the public water charges - if the protestors, pay for nothing spongers etc who didn't pay aren't prosecuted or gave it added to their LPT then of course the Law abiding citizens should get theirs refunded.
So that's €330m plus the €200m foregone.
2,500 social houses.
Well done!!

Only scroungers are over paid public servants like yourself screwing the country. Benchmark against private sector pay and there would be loads to invest in housing, mental jealth and water infrastructure.  Might even be a bit left over for the bould Dinny.

[Rossfan]

Finian McGrath's non compliance with the Law getting him into a biteen of bother.
Halligan next.