The Fine Gael thread

[muppet]

Citing a Brendan O'Connor article on NAMA is like referencing Ray Darcy on the Higg's Boson.

Apologies oh wise one, I will say ten Hail Muppet's and self flagulate for the next 15 minutes.

That is your best response?

Ok let's try this.

In the link you posted O'Connor said we should close NAMA immediately. He doesn't bother with considering the consequences, but then he writes for the Indo.

Do you think we should close NAMA immediately and if so take us through your idea of dealing with the consequences?

[NAG1]

Lot of lads very keen to defend NAMA and the government here. Bizarre

What should NAMA have done differently?

Transparency would have been a start. Maybe not hire the likes of Johnny Ronan and his ilk at over 200k a year. And remember these are the things we know about, fcuk knows what else lurks beneath. When I hear "commercially sensitive" I immediately smell a rat. Sometimes wish I was naive like you and I wouldn't get so annoyed.

I'm sorry, what?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/thanks-nama-for-having-us-pay-developers-to-sort-out-their-debts-26789282.html

Did you not know this???

Great piece.

[mikehunt]

Citing a Brendan O'Connor article on NAMA is like referencing Ray Darcy on the Higg's Boson.

Apologies oh wise one, I will say ten Hail Muppet's and self flagulate for the next 15 minutes.

That is your best response?

Ok let's try this.

In the link you posted O'Connor said we should close NAMA immediately. He doesn't bother with considering the consequences, but then he writes for the Indo.

Do you think we should close NAMA immediately and if so take us through your idea of dealing with the consequences?

Someone asked about a statement I made where I mentioned failed developers receiving 200k a year from Nama. The link was in response to the enquiry.

[muppet]

Citing a Brendan O'Connor article on NAMA is like referencing Ray Darcy on the Higg's Boson.

Apologies oh wise one, I will say ten Hail Muppet's and self flagulate for the next 15 minutes.

That is your best response?

Ok let's try this.

In the link you posted O'Connor said we should close NAMA immediately. He doesn't bother with considering the consequences, but then he writes for the Indo.

Do you think we should close NAMA immediately and if so take us through your idea of dealing with the consequences?

Someone asked about a statement I made where I mentioned failed developers receiving 200k a year from Nama. The link was in response to the enquiry.

Fair enough, but that isn't all O'Connor said in his piece.

You also called Armaghniac naive.

Can you please explain why he is naive, presumably about NAMA, and you aren't? What are we all missing?

[Declan]

I always enjoyed reading https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/ and the https://twitter.com/namawinelake always gives you food for thought

[muppet]

I always enjoyed reading https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/ and the https://twitter.com/namawinelake always gives you food for thought

Yes it was very, very good. I never understood why he shut down the blog.

[mikehunt]

I always enjoyed reading https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/ and the https://twitter.com/namawinelake always gives you food for thought

Yes it was very, very good. I never understood why he shut down the blog.

He was silenced.

[muppet]

I always enjoyed reading https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/ and the https://twitter.com/namawinelake always gives you food for thought

Yes it was very, very good. I never understood why he shut down the blog.

He was silenced.

And that is why he still posts on twitter, including 8 tweets today alone?

[mikehunt]

Fair enough, but that isn't all O'Connor said in his piece.

You also called Armaghniac naive.

Can you please explain why he is naive, presumably about NAMA, and you aren't? What are we all missing?

He's an Irish Water apologist. Naïve in the extreme as is anyone who backed that joke of a superquango.

[Franko]

Citing a Brendan O'Connor article on NAMA is like referencing Ray Darcy on the Higg's Boson.

Apologies oh wise one, I will say ten Hail Muppet's and self flagulate for the next 15 minutes.

That is your best response?

Ok let's try this.

In the link you posted O'Connor said we should close NAMA immediately. He doesn't bother with considering the consequences, but then he writes for the Indo.

Do you think we should close NAMA immediately and if so take us through your idea of dealing with the consequences?

If you actually read the article, he doesn't propose to close NAMA now.  He says that for some reasons it should be shut now, but we can't because it's now 'too big to fail'.  Which is essentially what you are saying I think.  If you actually read the piece without prejudice it's a real eye-opener.

[mikehunt]

I always enjoyed reading https://namawinelake.wordpress.com/ and the https://twitter.com/namawinelake always gives you food for thought

Yes it was very, very good. I never understood why he shut down the blog.

He was silenced.

And that is why he still posts on twitter, including 8 tweets today alone?

I'd heard he was getting heat for what he was putting on the blog.

[armaghniac]

He's an Irish Water apologist. Naïve in the extreme as is anyone who backed that joke of a superquango.

My only connection with Irish Water is that  I consume several glasses of their produce each day.

I am not an "apologist" for Irish Water. The way it was set up was a disgrace, especially in the middle of a recession. Nevertheless, a water utility is a sensible move and notwithstanding the bollix setting it up it should remain and be made as efficient as possible.   

[Rossfan]

It is a bit like doing nothing at the time of the Bank Guarantee, nothing at the time of the Bailout, and then throwing a missive tantrum over Irish Water. The Troika and Government mandarins must be quietly laughing at our stupidity and predictability.

Then we have the pygmy brained Sinn Pain and the Anti everything loonies and the Millionaire private school educated Murphy who claim to be Socialists.
Yet they ignore the awful wrongs of homelessness, families living in hotel room etc not to mention the everyday Health Service crisis upon crisis, people dying on waiting lists etc, job bridge, zero hour contracts and so on 
but
get totally wound up over townies being asked to pay a nett €3 a week towards their public water supply and sewerage.
The bankers and mandarins and all the rest sure are laughing alright.

[muppet]

Citing a Brendan O'Connor article on NAMA is like referencing Ray Darcy on the Higg's Boson.

Apologies oh wise one, I will say ten Hail Muppet's and self flagulate for the next 15 minutes.

That is your best response?

Ok let's try this.

In the link you posted O'Connor said we should close NAMA immediately. He doesn't bother with considering the consequences, but then he writes for the Indo.

Do you think we should close NAMA immediately and if so take us through your idea of dealing with the consequences?

If you actually read the article, he doesn't propose to close NAMA now.  He says that for some reasons it should be shut now, but we can't because it's now 'too big to fail'.  Which is essentially what you are saying I think.  If you actually read the piece without prejudice it's a real eye-opener.

'Too big to fail' is a derogatory term, and explains nothing. For a start, it hasn't 'failed' in any financial sense.

NAMA has actually done ok. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending what brought it about, nor the secrecy under which it is run and the basic conning of the taxpayer when it was set up. But for those charged with running it, it has done ok imho.

As for Brendan O'Connor, read this and smile: http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-smart-ballsy-guys-are-buying-up-property-right-now-26307728.html

[mikehunt]

He's an Irish Water apologist. Naïve in the extreme as is anyone who backed that joke of a superquango.

My only connection with Irish Water is that  I consume several glasses of their produce each day.

I am not an "apologist" for Irish Water. The way it was set up was a disgrace, especially in the middle of a recession. Nevertheless, a water utility is a sensible move and notwithstanding the bollix setting it up it should remain and be made as efficient as possible.

Will you be out protesting for a refund?