The Fine Gael thread

[foxcommander]

To increase tax take and to broaden the tax base. AFAIK, it was a troika "recommendation"

I presume you have some other more elaborate reason to tell me about.....

And why the need to increase the tax take?

Because the country was running a deficit.

And why was that?

[Maguire01]

To increase tax take and to broaden the tax base. AFAIK, it was a troika "recommendation"

I presume you have some other more elaborate reason to tell me about.....

And why the need to increase the tax take?

Because the country was running a deficit.

And why was that?

You tell me.

[foxcommander]

To increase tax take and to broaden the tax base. AFAIK, it was a troika "recommendation"

I presume you have some other more elaborate reason to tell me about.....

And why the need to increase the tax take?

Because the country was running a deficit.

And why was that?

You tell me.

Lads, could you help out Maguire?



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[Rossfan]

To increase tax take and to broaden the tax base. AFAIK, it was a troika "recommendation"

I presume you have some other more elaborate reason to tell me about.....

And why the need to increase the tax take?

Because the country was running a deficit.

And why was that?

You tell me.

Public Financing for the IQ challenged
Should ask Gerry Adams - he can abolish loads of taxes  AND improve public services plus provide instant public health care for all, hire 20,000 public employees and build thousands of houses

[foxcommander]

Public Financing for the IQ challenged

You might want to take some English lessons 

[mikehunt]

To increase tax take and to broaden the tax base. AFAIK, it was a troika "recommendation"

I presume you have some other more elaborate reason to tell me about.....

And why the need to increase the tax take?

Because the country was running a deficit.

And why was that?

You tell me.

Lads, could you help out Maguire?



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Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

[foxcommander]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

[mikehunt]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

Ah now Commander you know you'd be waiting for Maguire to answer a tricky question about FG's record in govt.  Keep the recovery going is the best you'll get out of him.

[Hardy]

Is the answer, "seven... ehhhh seven... around fifty nine"?

[Maguire01]

Ireland was spending more than it was taking in. Its income was reliant on a narrow tax base and exposed to the property crash. Tax therefore had to be increased, and / or expenditure cut, to balance. It also made sense that the tax base was broadened.

[Maguire01]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

Ah now Commander you know you'd be waiting for Maguire to answer a tricky question about FG's record in govt.  Keep the recovery going is the best you'll get out of him.

I don't believe i've said that once.

[foxcommander]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

Ah now Commander you know you'd be waiting for Maguire to answer a tricky question about FG's record in govt.  Keep the recovery going is the best you'll get out of him.

I know, I know. Maguire will just keep regurgitating the buzzwords.

Even Enda finds his manifesto it hard to believe. The cover says "Less waste, Lower Taxes, Stronger Growth".

Or is that a fairytale book?

[mikehunt]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

Ah now Commander you know you'd be waiting for Maguire to answer a tricky question about FG's record in govt.  Keep the recovery going is the best you'll get out of him.

I don't believe i've said that once.

There are quite a lot of things you haven't said. Like your opinion on state sponsored debt write downs to the elite? Do you think this helped narrow the deficit?

[Maguire01]

Because Ireland Inc were borrowing at 6.5% and lending to the Irish elite at 1.5%. Taxpayers through new charges were footung the bill for the difference.

Awww Mike - I was waiting for Maguire to tell me that. I got so close too.
Spoil my fun why don't you.

Ah now Commander you know you'd be waiting for Maguire to answer a tricky question about FG's record in govt.  Keep the recovery going is the best you'll get out of him.

I don't believe i've said that once.

There are quite a lot of things you haven't said. Like your opinion on state sponsored debt write downs to the elite? Do you think this helped narrow the deficit?

So if you haven't explicitly said you're disagree with something, you must agree with it? Well I don't. And no, it hardly helped narrow the deficit. But changes to taxes and public expenditure were still going to be required. Hence the likes of property tax.

[Rossfan]

Property taxes and charges for public water/sewerage -  a feature of most modern European social democracies.
Brought in here as a result of the Troika bail out caused by HarneyMcCreevyist neo liberalism which narrowed the tax base to house building taxes on artificially inflated prices for houses nobody needed and nobody could afford.