The Fine Gael thread

[Rossfan]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Nobody believes that.

Clearly some do.

Some always will. The old "you can fool some of the people........" 
Also you have the poor eejits who believe it will be different with this crowd.....
I'll be voting 1 John Kelly a good social democrat and a dacent man - but hhasn't a hope.
2 - Ml Fitzmaurice a dacent sensible man
3 - Maura Hopkins, a nice woman and a good Ros supporter.
Rest can eff off.

[trileacman]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Nobody believes that.

Clearly some do.

Some always will. The old "you can fool some of the people........" 
Also you have the poor eejits who believe it will be different with this crowd.....
I'll be voting 1 John Kelly a good social democrat and a dacent man - but hhasn't a hope.
2 - Ml Fitzmaurice a dacent sensible man
3 - Maura Hopkins, a nice woman and a good Ros supporter.
Rest can eff off.

Not being a dick but then why vote? Surely your just putting part of your day to loss?

[Rossfan]

PR Trileac.
My no 1 gets eliminated I'm still helping MF get in.
If he's in already I give Maura a vote.
If she then fails I don't give a damn about the rest.

[armaghniac]

PR Trileac.
My no 1 gets eliminated I'm still helping MF get in.
If he's in already I give Maura a vote.
If she then fails I don't give a damn about the rest.

This isn't logical, some of the rest may be more dangerous than others, despite all being bollixes.

[Rossfan]

PR Trileac.
My no 1 gets eliminated I'm still helping MF get in.
If he's in already I give Maura a vote.
If she then fails I don't give a damn about the rest.

This isn't logical, some of the rest may be more dangerous than others, despite all being bollixes.

It's my vote - I'll do as I want and won't distinguish any of the bolxs with a preference.

[mikehunt]

"Edna, how's the treatment for the comulsive lying going?"

Edna : "Magnifishintly"

[deiseach]

Not being a dick but then why vote? Surely your just putting part of your day to loss?

Speaking for myself, civic duty. I don't consider voting to be a chore.

[foxcommander]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

Quite. Show me one politician who isn't economical with the truth. Some though spin complete bollix knowing right well that they cannot do it and that they shouldn't do it even if they could.

Shouldn't every politican/candidate formally submit their manifesto before every election. That way they can can be judged on what they said they would achieve during their time in office before they stand again.

At least it would keep them honest.

I'm sure they'd all vote for that

Every politician signs up to their party's manifesto.

The problem is the party manifestos are unrealistic. Individual manifestos should also be submitted for what they plan to do for their constituencies. At least that way you can see they plan to work hard, not just ride their parties coat tails.

[Maguire01]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

Quite. Show me one politician who isn't economical with the truth. Some though spin complete bollix knowing right well that they cannot do it and that they shouldn't do it even if they could.

Shouldn't every politican/candidate formally submit their manifesto before every election. That way they can can be judged on what they said they would achieve during their time in office before they stand again.

At least it would keep them honest.

I'm sure they'd all vote for that

Every politician signs up to their party's manifesto.

The problem is the party manifestos are unrealistic. Individual manifestos should also be submitted for what they plan to do for their constituencies. At least that way you can see they plan to work hard, not just ride their parties coat tails.

So basically you want parish pump politicians. TDs are legislators. Get on to your local councillors to deal with your local issues.

[Kursk]

Sinn Fein have my vote. In the absence of a party that is committed to taking us out of Europe they will have to do. Hopefully there will be Brexit which will force us to see reason. Of course the establishment don't like the peasants getting uppity as evidenced by Liz O'Donnells derisory reaction to Sinn Feins election victories last year.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/liz-odonnell/election-of-three-sinn-fein-meps-shows-how-unimportant-european-parliament-is-to-us-30318452.html

[Rossfan]

Let's all join North Korea .

[Kursk]

I don't understand that attitude. Seeking an alternative to US hegemony does not imply seeking the opposite extreme. Russia is , essentially, a capitalist country. It has a reasonable, pragmatic approach to human rights. It is not North Korea.

More people are being exposed to the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6J-Qg9kN3M

[Kursk]

14:25 minutes in is especially applicable to Europe.

Slaves to debt that you are...

[Kursk]

Europe needs to be careful which side they pick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se3j3bl04zM

[Kursk]

are you on this side ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piASFyd7jT4