The Fine Gael thread

[armaghniac]

I think "nice" is not the word here, it is shorthand for the set of people who realise that things have to be paid for and that everyone has to aim to pay a bit. SF have given up on responsible government.

Sadly a very unstable position may be in prospect, although some of the independents/Renua might agree to support a minority FG operation on the budget at least.

[Rossfan]

I'd imagine they'd want their half kilo of flesh in return.
The Fitzmaurice/Ross In do alliance would likely vote for Kenny as Taoiseach to enable some stability.

[foxcommander]

I think "nice" is not the word here, it is shorthand for the set of people who realise that things have to be paid for and that everyone has to aim to pay a bit. SF have given up on responsible government.

Sadly a very unstable position may be in prospect, although some of the independents/Renua might agree to support a minority FG operation on the budget at least.

That's a sweeping generalisation.
You are equating "nice" with anyone who doesn't agree with FG's policies or how they've run the country since they got into power.

You reckon those who won't vote FG are spongers with their hand out?

[Maguire01]

I think "nice" is not the word here, it is shorthand for the set of people who realise that things have to be paid for and that everyone has to aim to pay a bit. SF have given up on responsible government.

Sadly a very unstable position may be in prospect, although some of the independents/Renua might agree to support a minority FG operation on the budget at least.

To be honest, they'd probably be more responsible if they were in government. Look at what happened Syriza, eventually. The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

[foxcommander]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

[armaghniac]

I think "nice" is not the word here, it is shorthand for the set of people who realise that things have to be paid for and that everyone has to aim to pay a bit. SF have given up on responsible government.

Sadly a very unstable position may be in prospect, although some of the independents/Renua might agree to support a minority FG operation on the budget at least.

That's a sweeping generalisation.
You are equating "nice" with anyone who doesn't agree with FG's policies or how they've run the country since they got into power.

I'm disagreeing with the word "nice", perhaps responsible would be better.

You reckon those who won't vote FG are spongers with their hand out?

A lot of them are codding themselves that money grows on trees.

[Maguire01]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

[foxcommander]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

[Maguire01]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

[armaghniac]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

Quite. Show me one politician who isn't economical with the truth. Some though spin complete bollix knowing right well that they cannot do it and that they shouldn't do it even if they could.

[foxcommander]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

Quite. Show me one politician who isn't economical with the truth. Some though spin complete bollix knowing right well that they cannot do it and that they shouldn't do it even if they could.

Shouldn't every politican/candidate formally submit their manifesto before every election. That way they can can be judged on what they said they would achieve during their time in office before they stand again.

At least it would keep them honest.

I'm sure they'd all vote for that

[foxcommander]

Frankie Feighan can promise he'll keep his elbows to himself for the next 5 years.

[Maguire01]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Just like Fine Gael promised when Fianna Fail were in power......

Yes.

Are you saying that Fine Gael are liars?

Call it lying, call it playing the political "game", call it what you want, all parties do it. I don't know of any party that has delivered all it promised after getting into office.

Quite. Show me one politician who isn't economical with the truth. Some though spin complete bollix knowing right well that they cannot do it and that they shouldn't do it even if they could.

Shouldn't every politican/candidate formally submit their manifesto before every election. That way they can can be judged on what they said they would achieve during their time in office before they stand again.

At least it would keep them honest.

I'm sure they'd all vote for that

Every politician signs up to their party's manifesto.

[vallankumous]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Nobody believes that.

[Maguire01]

The problem is that some people actually believe the opposition parties would deliver on all their promises if they were in government. The reality is very different.

Nobody believes that.

Clearly some do.