The Fine Gael thread

[foxcommander]

Pay cut?? They really really put themselves on the breadine in solidarity.
They'll be making up for it in expenses claims. Don't fret.

Nice to see the minister for emigration Jimmy Deenihan makes a nice living out of other peoples misery.
As for the social worker in charge of justice. Overpaid to spout a few buzzwords into a camera. Real value for money there.

and paying 4 grand a week for enda. let that sink in. then try justify it.

A social worker in charge of Justice... do you want to list the professional credentials of your alternative front bench?

And Enda gets just over €3,500 a week as Taoiseach. If you convert the currency, McGuinness is paid €3,200 a week as one of two First Ministers of an administration (not even a full government) for a much smaller jurisdiction. (Not to mention that the Taoiseach's salary will be subject to higher taxes in the south than the dFM's in the north.) Which would you rather justify first?

Maguire - The only way you try to justify Enda's wages is by trying to attack Sinn Fein (who aren't the government in the 26 counties).

How typical of you

Vladamir Putin gets 125k a year. Certainly doesn't do more work than Enda mind you. It takes a special someone to pull in  3.5k a week to get stuck in a lift or go on another pointless photoshoot.

[Maguire01]

Pay cut?? They really really put themselves on the breadine in solidarity.
They'll be making up for it in expenses claims. Don't fret.

Nice to see the minister for emigration Jimmy Deenihan makes a nice living out of other peoples misery.
As for the social worker in charge of justice. Overpaid to spout a few buzzwords into a camera. Real value for money there.

and paying 4 grand a week for enda. let that sink in. then try justify it.

A social worker in charge of Justice... do you want to list the professional credentials of your alternative front bench?

And Enda gets just over €3,500 a week as Taoiseach. If you convert the currency, McGuinness is paid €3,200 a week as one of two First Ministers of an administration (not even a full government) for a much smaller jurisdiction. (Not to mention that the Taoiseach's salary will be subject to higher taxes in the south than the dFM's in the north.) Which would you rather justify first?

Maguire - The only way you try to justify Enda's wages is by trying to attack Sinn Fein (who aren't the government in the 26 counties).

How typical of you

Vladamir Putin gets 125k a year. Certainly doesn't do more work than Enda mind you. It takes a special someone to pull in  3.5k a week to get stuck in a lift or go on another pointless photoshoot.

You're missing my point. I'm NOT attacking SF. I have no issue with McGuinness being paid that salary. I think it's reasonable that someone gets paid a wage that reflects the hours they put in, the responsibility they have, the scrutiny they're under, not to mention the mandate they have (democracy, eh?) - that's my view regardless of what party they're in.

And a comparison with SF is surely relevant if they're the alternative to the current government?

[Rossfan]

You'd think no Ministers ever got paid before the current lot going by the eejity quotes Maguire is replying to.

[armaghniac]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

[Maguire01]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

[armaghniac]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

The team does, not the individuals.
But the appraisal is based on suspect principles, with much talk of trivialities and ignoring of important issues.

[foxcommander]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

Yes - please please please appoint Frances Fitzgerald as minister for justice...she's great, doesn't talk in buzzwords and knows what she's doing. Those social worker skills really will come in handy.

While you're at it please appoint Heather Humpreys to the position of minister for the gaeltacht even though she can't actually speak irish.

James Reilly health minister who has conflicts of interest due to his own private nursing homes...

etc...

Good job! They don't get paid half enough.

[Maguire01]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

Yes - please please please appoint Frances Fitzgerald as minister for justice...she's great, doesn't talk in buzzwords and knows what she's doing. Those social worker skills really will come in handy.

While you're at it please appoint Heather Humpreys to the position of minister for the gaeltacht even though she can't actually speak irish.

James Reilly health minister who has conflicts of interest due to his own private nursing homes...

etc...

Good job! They don't get paid half enough.

Who would your alternative ministers be for those 3 jobs?

[foxcommander]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

Yes - please please please appoint Frances Fitzgerald as minister for justice...she's great, doesn't talk in buzzwords and knows what she's doing. Those social worker skills really will come in handy.

While you're at it please appoint Heather Humpreys to the position of minister for the gaeltacht even though she can't actually speak irish.

James Reilly health minister who has conflicts of interest due to his own private nursing homes...

etc...

Good job! They don't get paid half enough.

Who would your alternative ministers be for those 3 jobs?

I'll let you know when they pay me 200k a year. I want an Enda Kenny wig as well...

https://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/the-contract-for-a-better-ireland-fine-gael-2007-leaflet/

I'll practice my lack of charisma and oozing of smarm behaviour.

My contract....

[Maguire01]

Ministers should be paid, but should perform high quality work. The issue is the latter, not the former.

Well they do get a fairly public appraisal every 4-5 years.

Yes - please please please appoint Frances Fitzgerald as minister for justice...she's great, doesn't talk in buzzwords and knows what she's doing. Those social worker skills really will come in handy.

While you're at it please appoint Heather Humpreys to the position of minister for the gaeltacht even though she can't actually speak irish.

James Reilly health minister who has conflicts of interest due to his own private nursing homes...

etc...

Good job! They don't get paid half enough.

Who would your alternative ministers be for those 3 jobs?

I'll let you know when they pay me 200k a year. I want an Enda Kenny wig as well...

https://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/the-contract-for-a-better-ireland-fine-gael-2007-leaflet/

I'll practice my lack of charisma and oozing of smarm behaviour.

My contract....

Just as I thought. The current crop aren't up to much, but you can't name any better alternatives. Yet presumably if we reduce all Ministers' pay to a pittance, individuals with vast experience and professional qualifications will be lining up to take over...

[armaghniac]

I'll let you know when they pay me 200k a year. I want an Enda Kenny wig as well...

presumably if you get to run a country or any organisation of any size they will pay you 200k a year.
Given your powers of analysis, I wouldn't get my expectations up if I was you.

[Canalman]

Getting someone to get into coalition post election with FG is its major problem atm. No natural "allies" out there with the numbers needed.

Convinced we will be at the polls twice in 2016/ early 2017.

[Rossfan]

Getting someone to get into coalition post election with FG is its major problem atm. No natural "allies" out there with the numbers needed.

Convinced we will be at the polls twice in 2016/ early 2017.

Looks like that currently. No doubt the FG message will be "return us for stability".
Are we now looking at
FG 50
Lab 10
FF30-35
SF25
UncleTomCobbleys 38-43.

I heard something on the news that SF/ArmyCouncil are going to consider a voting pact with the loonylefties.
Obviously SF recognise that the "nice" potential support is vanishing and hope that they will make up for it by getting transfers from the Luddite/Nihilist camps.

[foxcommander]

Getting someone to get into coalition post election with FG is its major problem atm. No natural "allies" out there with the numbers needed.

Convinced we will be at the polls twice in 2016/ early 2017.

FF/FG coalition - they're practically the same.

[foxcommander]

Getting someone to get into coalition post election with FG is its major problem atm. No natural "allies" out there with the numbers needed.

Convinced we will be at the polls twice in 2016/ early 2017.

Looks like that currently. No doubt the FG message will be "return us for stability".
Are we now looking at
FG 50
Lab 10
FF30-35
SF25
UncleTomCobbleys 38-43.

I heard something on the news that SF/ArmyCouncil are going to consider a voting pact with the loonylefties.
Obviously SF recognise that the "nice" potential support is vanishing and hope that they will make up for it by getting transfers from the Luddite/Nihilist camps.

What a condescending little post.
You are considering yourself "nice" I take it? I'd go with "a-hole" instead.