The Fine Gael thread

[mikehunt]

Stopping upward only rents is a two edged sword as it stalls commercial real estate development, devalues commercial property,  leading to a lack of grade a commercial space for new business leading in turn to less jobs created and less outside investment. And then with less commercial real estate, rents go up anyway due to scarcity. Funny how the opposition fail to see that. Fine Gael actually learned that lesson the hard way.

Govt's decision was purely to keep NAMA's books look half way decent. The decision to include this clause in the first place show's the madness that went on. The decision to keep it shows that some people wanted the madness to continue. The "Grade A Commercial Space" bit was especially hilarious. Total spoof. You sound like a cross between Tom McParland and Karl Deeter.

[mikehunt]

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/confusion-after-kenny-claim-that-army-was-on-standby-to-guard-atms-34133926.html

The gift that keeps on giving. I can just imagine his handlers shaking their heads in disbelief. 

My favourite bit was 'It looks like this weekend ... you'll have to put Army around the banks and around the ATM machines". Someone needs to tell him what the "M" in ATM stands for. To think this clown used to teach kids.

[foxcommander]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

[macdanger2]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

[foxcommander]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

They have no reason to be there. Why not just send Bus Eireann over there if all you're doing is facilitating the illegal transporting of people into Europe. It would be safer and cheaper.

If they were keeping them out I might be more inclined to agree with you.

[Syferus]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

They have no reason to be there. Why not just send Bus Eireann over there if all you're doing is facilitating the illegal transporting of people into Europe. It would be safer and cheaper.

If they were keeping them out I might be more inclined to agree with you.

The PIRA have even less reason to exist.

[foxcommander]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

They have no reason to be there. Why not just send Bus Eireann over there if all you're doing is facilitating the illegal transporting of people into Europe. It would be safer and cheaper.

If they were keeping them out I might be more inclined to agree with you.

The PIRA have even less reason to exist.

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I didn't know Enda ran them as well. He's a sly hoor having multiple armies at his disposal.

[Syferus]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

They have no reason to be there. Why not just send Bus Eireann over there if all you're doing is facilitating the illegal transporting of people into Europe. It would be safer and cheaper.

If they were keeping them out I might be more inclined to agree with you.

The PIRA have even less reason to exist.

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I didn't know Enda ran them as well. He's a sly hoor having multiple armies at his disposal.

The PIRA is more of a criminal gang than an army in fairness.

[foxcommander]

Enda is already head of a criminal gang called Fine Gael.

[Syferus]

Enda is already head of a criminal gang called Fine Gael.

At least he's not taking directions from the criminals.

[foxcommander]

Enda is already head of a criminal gang called Fine Gael.

At least he's not taking directions from the criminals.

You mean his party? Glassing fellas in pubs, assaulting protestors in the street and various  riduclous 'expenses' and salaries

Top 10 Cabinet salaries and expenses 2011-2015 (€)
Enda Kenny   Taoiseach   1,078,236.27
Simon Coveney   Agriculture   941,772.86
Michael Noonan   Finance   919,726.75
Leo Varadkar   Health   877,531.74
Jimmy Deenihan   Diaspora   864,664.67
Brendan Howlin   Public Expenditure   833,881.27
James Reilly   Children   813,250.31
Paul Kehoe   Chief Whip   785,869.69
Frances Fitzgerald   Justice   784,057.52
Alan Kelly   Environment   778,837.43


Who's the criminals again?

[macdanger2]

Is this the reason Ireland has an army? Keeping these lads trained to use at a moments notice for civil unrest to beat down the plebs?

Never seen the point in funding this. Should disband and use the money elsewhere.

Enda trying to act the big man again in europe. Typical.

Tbf, the Irish army are doing an excellent job in the Mediterranean. I wouldn't see it as a high priority area of spending but they're doing their bit over there and have saved a lot of lives

They have no reason to be there. Why not just send Bus Eireann over there if all you're doing is facilitating the illegal transporting of people into Europe. It would be safer and cheaper.

If they were keeping them out I might be more inclined to agree with you.

So there's no value in humanitarian work, good man

[weareros]

Stopping upward only rents is a two edged sword as it stalls commercial real estate development, devalues commercial property,  leading to a lack of grade a commercial space for new business leading in turn to less jobs created and less outside investment. And then with less commercial real estate, rents go up anyway due to scarcity. Funny how the opposition fail to see that. Fine Gael actually learned that lesson the hard way.

Govt's decision was purely to keep NAMA's books look half way decent. The decision to include this clause in the first place show's the madness that went on. The decision to keep it shows that some people wanted the madness to continue. The "Grade A Commercial Space" bit was especially hilarious. Total spoof. You sound like a cross between Tom McParland and Karl Deeter.

A little learning is a dangerous thing. Office space is generally classed into A, B and C. And you need grade A if you want to attract investment into Ireland as high tech firms need a bit more than a Sinn Fein job of a printer in the corner and stolen ink cartridges. Plus in case you had not noticed there's been a scarcity of commercial real estate in Dublin driving up rents in double digit rates. To combat that, high quality commercial real estate needs to be developed and good news is that is happening because that equals more businesses and more jobs.

[Maguire01]

Enda is already head of a criminal gang called Fine Gael.

At least he's not taking directions from the criminals.

You mean his party? Glassing fellas in pubs, assaulting protestors in the street and various  riduclous 'expenses' and salaries

Top 10 Cabinet salaries and expenses 2011-2015 (€)
Enda Kenny   Taoiseach   1,078,236.27
Simon Coveney   Agriculture   941,772.86
Michael Noonan   Finance   919,726.75
Leo Varadkar   Health   877,531.74
Jimmy Deenihan   Diaspora   864,664.67
Brendan Howlin   Public Expenditure   833,881.27
James Reilly   Children   813,250.31
Paul Kehoe   Chief Whip   785,869.69
Frances Fitzgerald   Justice   784,057.52
Alan Kelly   Environment   778,837.43


Who's the criminals again?

In 2014/15, Martin McGuinness had a salary of 120k and expenses of 67k. That's 187k in one year, or 935k over 5 years. That's €1.3m.

And on The Mirror article you took your stats from, SF (and other non government) TDs are all sitting close to 600k in salaries and expenses and they're not actually in charge of anything.

Statistics mean nothing out of context.

[Hardy]

Enda is already head of a criminal gang called Fine Gael.

At least he's not taking directions from the criminals.

You mean his party? Glassing fellas in pubs, assaulting protestors in the street and various  riduclous 'expenses' and salaries

Top 10 Cabinet salaries and expenses 2011-2015 (€)
Enda Kenny   Taoiseach   1,078,236.27
Simon Coveney   Agriculture   941,772.86
Michael Noonan   Finance   919,726.75
Leo Varadkar   Health   877,531.74
Jimmy Deenihan   Diaspora   864,664.67
Brendan Howlin   Public Expenditure   833,881.27
James Reilly   Children   813,250.31
Paul Kehoe   Chief Whip   785,869.69
Frances Fitzgerald   Justice   784,057.52
Alan Kelly   Environment   778,837.43


Who's the criminals again?

In 2014/15, Martin McGuinness had a salary of 120k and expenses of 67k. That's 187k in one year, or 935k over 5 years. That's €1.3m.

And on The Mirror article you took your stats from, SF (and other non government) TDs are all sitting close to 600k in salaries and expenses and they're not actually in charge of anything.

Statistics mean nothing out of context.

Is that 100% of statistics?