The Fine Gael thread

[mikehunt]

Rossfan doesn't think he should contribute to his defined benefit pension.  Shouldn't be surprised. It's ok rossfan let real paye workers contribute for you.

[foxcommander]

Rossfan doesn't think he should contribute to his defined benefit pension. 

[macdanger2]

Do those superannuation monies cover the entire cost of public service pensions?

Each public body pays their own I believe. Make more sense if it was all centralised.
20 odd years ago I was a temporary clerical officer in the payroll office of a Council. In that particular body then the contributions were about twice the pensions.
I'm not in an office role in my current organisation so don't know the current situation.

Tbh, I don't doubt what you're saying about what the story was 20 years ago but the cost of DB pensions was massively underestimated and with people living longer, the hole is only getting bigger.

The govt should do away with DB pensions, almost every other sector has

[lynchbhoy]

Fox and Lynch think SF will abolish all taxes and provide free public services.

Where did I say that?

You think that's bad!
I'm at the opposite end of political spectrum to you I believe - yet that amadam makes that above statement on my behalf?
Not sure how he/she Enid blyton'ed that one!!

[Rossfan]

Some Independents pressing ahead to forge an alliance -
http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local-politicians-among-those-attending-independent-alliance-meeting-today/

[foxcommander]

Fox and Lynch think SF will abolish all taxes and provide free public services.

Where did I say that?

You think that's bad!
I'm at the opposite end of political spectrum to you I believe - yet that amadam makes that above statement on my behalf?
Not sure how he/she Enid blyton'ed that one!!

What else do you expect from a


You mean Enda Blyton surely? Seems like this closet case is a big fan.

There's a few Noddys in the government benches.

[Rossfan]

More bad news for the 3 bucks in the latest Red C poll - FG and Lab both up 3, FF no change but SF down 4
As the Church found out Irish people don't like organisations which cover up sexual abuse.

[Kidder81]

As Rossfan says

Latest RedC

FG 27 (+3) (+6 since Dec)
Lab 10 (+3) (+4 since Dec)
FF 18 (=)
SF 17 (-4) (-7 since Dec)
Ind/Oth 28 (-2).
[Ind 24, Grn 2, Ren 2]

[macdanger2]

How come the greens & renua are quoted individually whereas the socialist party (who actually have a TD) and whatever others parties aren't?

[Rossfan]

Greens and relucyloo are middle class

[heffo]

As Rossfan says

Latest RedC

FG 27 (+3) (+6 since Dec)
Lab 10 (+3) (+4 since Dec)
FF 18 (=)
SF 17 (-4) (-7 since Dec)
Ind/Oth 28 (-2).
[Ind 24, Grn 2, Ren 2]

The numbers won't be pretty for the Shinners when their internal child abusers report is leaked closer to the GE

[lynchbhoy]

As Rossfan says

Latest RedC

FG 27 (+3) (+6 since Dec)
Lab 10 (+3) (+4 since Dec)
FF 18 (=)
SF 17 (-4) (-7 since Dec)
Ind/Oth 28 (-2).
[Ind 24, Grn 2, Ren 2]

The numbers won't be pretty for the Shinners when their internal child abusers report is leaked closer to the GE

Prev polls imo were incorrect
No way sf will be above 19% come election time

I think people will see a bit of a ff comeback as they have some v good candidates around the country. Think ff need to replace Micheal Martin though

The child abusers you mention - were they sf candidates/ people ?

[heffo]

As Rossfan says

Latest RedC

FG 27 (+3) (+6 since Dec)
Lab 10 (+3) (+4 since Dec)
FF 18 (=)
SF 17 (-4) (-7 since Dec)
Ind/Oth 28 (-2).
[Ind 24, Grn 2, Ren 2]

The numbers won't be pretty for the Shinners when their internal child abusers report is leaked closer to the GE

Prev polls imo were incorrect
No way sf will be above 19% come election time

I think people will see a bit of a ff comeback as they have some v good candidates around the country. Think ff need to replace Micheal Martin though

The child abusers you mention - were they sf candidates/ people ?

I'm referring to the internal SF report - the exact breakdown of how many were terrorists/candidates will be known when our Gerry comes clean or when the report is made public

[lynchbhoy]

As Rossfan says

Latest RedC

FG 27 (+3) (+6 since Dec)
Lab 10 (+3) (+4 since Dec)
FF 18 (=)
SF 17 (-4) (-7 since Dec)
Ind/Oth 28 (-2).
[Ind 24, Grn 2, Ren 2]

The numbers won't be pretty for the Shinners when their internal child abusers report is leaked closer to the GE

Prev polls imo were incorrect
No way sf will be above 19% come election time

I think people will see a bit of a ff comeback as they have some v good candidates around the country. Think ff need to replace Micheal Martin though

The child abusers you mention - were they sf candidates/ people ?

I'm referring to the internal SF report - the exact breakdown of how many were terrorists/candidates will be known when our Gerry comes clean or when the report is made public

Right so

I thought you'd heard names or something

Either way I'd doubt if any current sf people are involved
This is ( if any way true) IRA stuff fcuk all to do with sf.

As I heard in the talk show on the radio during the week , none of this is affecting sf vote as firstly it's f**k all to do with them
And secondly their voters will vote for them irrespective of all these stories that crop up

Sf are imo as bad as fg and ff

[armaghniac]

Sf are imo as bad as fg and ff

That's the point, people might like to give the present government a kicking for being an unprincipled shower of self serving politicians, but the alternatives are also an unprincipled shower of self serving politicians. The difference is that the economy is now firing on all cylinders according to the IMF and people are inclined not to risk breaking it.