The Fine Gael thread

[Rossfan]

They were fighting against 2 Governments and a majority of the population of the 26 Cos.after all.

[mikehunt]

They were fighting against 2 Governments and a majority of the population of the 26 Cos.after all.

Sounds like they'd be the type who would oppose water charges. Pity they didn't shake some sense in to you.

[muppet]

I wouldn't be a fan of Murphy and would never vote for him however he was elected on the back of the Water Charges. He is doing what the people asked him to do unlike the majority of politicians. Their ideas for the economy are a bit far fetched but Joe Higgins does make some fair points on how the money could be raised. Just because they can talk nonsense some of the time doesn't mean they don't have good ideas. The outrage of the treatment of Burton and Higgins is ott. You had 2 prison officers getting stabbed the other day because there was no armed security for a known dangerous criminal yet you have armed guards at water protests? You had 3 cars and 8 guards arresting Murphy yet real crimes are ignored. If the protestors got jail time for contempt then fair enough, but why are people that have committed real crimes walking the street unhindered. No consistency.

There's a Fine Gael gathering in Castlebar at the weekend. A local toddler who has Downs and is in poor health has been refused a medical card multiple times. All of a sudden on the Thursday before the gathering the parents get a call to say they're getting a medical card even though their latest application was refused last week so no existing application was in place. Yet all we hear about is these "thugs" who are protesting about water charges whose greatest crime is to shout obscenities and cause a bit of civil unrest. What about the thugs who are refusing to help the sick, the poor and the homeless, causing the unnecessary deaths of people due to underfunding? The real thugs are those who are putting the interests of the wealthy ahead of the people that put them in their job and pay their wages.

You weren't talking about the decent people among the 100,000 marchers you are now pretending to hide behind.

You made the link between FG and the sick child and it was you who referred to the 'thugs'. You even qualified who you meant, referring to those who shout obscenities and cause civil disobedience. Holding Burton for 2 hours is ok. Abusing the President is absolutely ok when you can rationalise it all away, simply because you are pissed off about something. Rush hour traffic is bad enough in Dublin without having 200 scumbags making it worse, illegally. But that is all ok too, because Mike is angry about water tax.

The only good thing about the behaviour of the real thugs is that the well intentioned people who marched initially will come to realise the type of people behind these protests. This happens with all of these type of protests. Joe Higgins has organised property tax and bin tax campaigns in the past and it is always the same outcome: He gets elected and nothing else matters.

[Rossfan]

Mike and Fox must have devised this lots Tax policy www.cppireland.org 

[armaghniac]

Lout leader on TV now.

[mikehunt]

Lout leader on TV now.

That was last night with Miriam.

[mikehunt]

I wouldn't be a fan of Murphy and would never vote for him however he was elected on the back of the Water Charges. He is doing what the people asked him to do unlike the majority of politicians. Their ideas for the economy are a bit far fetched but Joe Higgins does make some fair points on how the money could be raised. Just because they can talk nonsense some of the time doesn't mean they don't have good ideas. The outrage of the treatment of Burton and Higgins is ott. You had 2 prison officers getting stabbed the other day because there was no armed security for a known dangerous criminal yet you have armed guards at water protests? You had 3 cars and 8 guards arresting Murphy yet real crimes are ignored. If the protestors got jail time for contempt then fair enough, but why are people that have committed real crimes walking the street unhindered. No consistency.

There's a Fine Gael gathering in Castlebar at the weekend. A local toddler who has Downs and is in poor health has been refused a medical card multiple times. All of a sudden on the Thursday before the gathering the parents get a call to say they're getting a medical card even though their latest application was refused last week so no existing application was in place. Yet all we hear about is these "thugs" who are protesting about water charges whose greatest crime is to shout obscenities and cause a bit of civil unrest. What about the thugs who are refusing to help the sick, the poor and the homeless, causing the unnecessary deaths of people due to underfunding? The real thugs are those who are putting the interests of the wealthy ahead of the people that put them in their job and pay their wages.

You weren't talking about the decent people among the 100,000 marchers you are now pretending to hide behind.

You made the link between FG and the sick child and it was you who referred to the 'thugs'. You even qualified who you meant, referring to those who shout obscenities and cause civil disobedience. Holding Burton for 2 hours is ok. Abusing the President is absolutely ok when you can rationalise it all away, simply because you are pissed off about something. Rush hour traffic is bad enough in Dublin without having 200 scumbags making it worse, illegally. But that is all ok too, because Mike is angry about water tax.

The only good thing about the behaviour of the real thugs is that the well intentioned people who marched initially will come to realise the type of people behind these protests. This happens with all of these type of protests. Joe Higgins has organised property tax and bin tax campaigns in the past and it is always the same outcome: He gets elected and nothing else matters.

The mighty warrior smites him down with great vengeance and furious anger.

[muppet]

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/water/paul-murphy-calls-for-anti-water-charge-protesters-to-breach-court-injunction-31007900.html

TD Paul Murphy has called for anti-water charge campaigners to breach a court ordered injunction preventing them from interfering with the installation of water meters.

Mr Murphy said he would breach such an injunction himself, and encouraged others to do the same.

Speaking to Newstalk, he said:

"There was an injunction given to a private company, to prevent people going within 20 metres of water meters.

"There was no finding of criminal acts by the judge.

"The court should never have given such an order. People have an absolute right to protest, and to protest peacefully."

"There should now be widespread defiance of any injunction relating to water meter installation, People cannot be intimidated from protesting.

"I would be happy to breach such an injunction, I would encourage others to breach such an injunction.

"How many people are they willing to jail to get these water meters in?"

Mr Murphy made his comments after several anti-water charge protesters were jailed yesterday for breaching a court order to stay 20 metres away from water meter installations.

The protesters can purge their contempt at any time, by agreeing to obey the court order.


Murphy should be locked up for contempt merely for encouraging such anarchy. We don't always agree every court decision but there are processes to deal with that. Calling for anarchy is bordering on seditious.

Mike has abandoned his position and retreated to satire, but Vous n'êtes pas Charlie!.

[foxcommander]

Fine Gael will go to great lengths to stop anyone asking Enda a question at their 2015 rally.

[foxcommander]

Time for a FG soundbytes competation to find the most nauseating comment/slogan of the weekend....

The slogan 'Securing the Recovery' is a good start. For whom you have to wonder. Germany is my guess.

From RTE - "Minister for Finance Michael Noonan said Ireland stood at a fork in the road with one road delivering full employment in less than four years and the other uncertainty"

If enough people leave the country full employment is a possibility. So voting against FG will lead to uncertainty...well there's quite a few that are certain to be added to poverty stats if FG stay in office.

[muppet]

Tell us Foxy and Mike does you support of 'the right to protest' extend to this man: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/willie-frazer-plans-loyalist-dublin-march-during-february-1.2092936

[muppet]

Now 2 are on hunger strike and threatening a liquid strike on Monday:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/jailed-anti-water-protesters-go-on-hunger-strike-crowd-hears-1.2112716

Audrey Clancy of Dublin Says No, addressing up to 10,000 protesters outside Mountjoy, said Derek Byrne from Donaghemede and Paul Moore from Kilbarrack, had been refusing food since Friday.

The High Court on Thursday imposed a sentence of 28 days for contempt of a court order on Byrne as well as on Bernie Hughes from Finglas and Michael Batty from Raheny, while 56-day sentences were imposed on Moore and on Damien O'Neill from Coolock.

"Derek Byrne and Pauly Moore have stopped eating since yesterday," said Ms Clancy. "And Derek Byrne has said if he's not released by Monday he will stop drinking, he will take no fluid intake. These people are putting their lives on the line. Support them. Stop this madness. Get these blood-sucking leaches out of power now. The power of the people is greater than the people in power. Stand up to them, " she said to cheers and applause.

[foxcommander]

Tell us Foxy and Mike does you support of 'the right to protest' extend to this man: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/willie-frazer-plans-loyalist-dublin-march-during-february-1.2092936

Still not sure why you pulled out this old article when Feb is nearly over...point scoring mupet?

Let him march. Funnily enough the police will try uphold his rights to do so.
If they didn't guarantee his rights to do so he wouldn't march in the first place.


Any comment on Fine Gael weekend or are you too busy kissing the TV when Enda is on?
inspiring stuff.

[muppet]

Tell us Foxy and Mike does you support of 'the right to protest' extend to this man: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/willie-frazer-plans-loyalist-dublin-march-during-february-1.2092936

Let him march. Funnily enough the police will try uphold his rights to do so.
If they didn't guarantee his rights to do so he wouldn't march in the first place.


Any comment on Fine Gael weekend or are you too busy kissing the TV when Enda is on?
inspiring stuff.

So Frazer wouldn't take to the streets of Dublin without permission. What a novel idea.

As for the Ard Fheis, I wouldn't even know it was on if you weren't publicising it so much. I wouldn't watch anyone's Ard Fheis if I was paid a fortune. Party gombeens cheering other party gombeens every slobbering syllable. Nope, I'll leave that to you.

[foxcommander]

Tell us Foxy and Mike does you support of 'the right to protest' extend to this man: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/willie-frazer-plans-loyalist-dublin-march-during-february-1.2092936

Let him march. Funnily enough the police will try uphold his rights to do so.
If they didn't guarantee his rights to do so he wouldn't march in the first place.


Any comment on Fine Gael weekend or are you too busy kissing the TV when Enda is on?
inspiring stuff.

So Frazer wouldn't take to the streets of Dublin without permission. What a novel idea.

As for the Ard Fheis, I wouldn't even know it was on if you weren't publicising it so much. I wouldn't watch anyone's Ard Fheis if I was paid a fortune. Party gombeens cheering other party gombeens every slobbering syllable. Nope, I'll leave that to you.

You missed my point. he could take to the streets without permission if he likes. Let him see how far he gets down the road.

sorry if I took your attention away from your glorious leaders speech......Didn't know it was on indeed..... Same ol sneaky fine gaelers...