The Fine Gael thread

[Maguire01]

From Twitter:

SBP REDC post budget poll FG wins, Lab slips to single figures FG 29 (+2) FF 23 (=) Lab 9 (-1) SF 17 (=) Ind/Oth 22 (-1) (D/K 18%)

Unbelievable that the opposition can't boost their figures in a post-budget poll.

Seat estimates based on constituency level analysis of SBP-Red C poll: FG 57, FF 45, SF 22, LAB 9, GP 0, IND/OTH 25

80 for a majority next time out - FG/FF looks like the only option on those numbers.

Re: your first point, is it that unbelievable?

Maybe not 'unbelievable' given the quality of the opposition - just a very poor showing.

[armaghniac]

That's 31 short of a majority by my calculations.

FF 45, SF 22, LAB 9 = 76 not quite a majority, but one more seat each and you'd nearly be there. Then bring a couple of independents back to the mother ship.

[Maguire01]

That's 31 short of a majority by my calculations.

FF 45, SF 22, LAB 9 = 76 not quite a majority, but one more seat each and you'd nearly be there. Then bring a couple of independents back to the mother ship.

My mistake - was adding the percentage figures!
Although given recent experience, I wouldn't favour a government trying to keep a few independents on side - a 3-party coalition would be unstable enough to start with.

[lawnseed]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

[Tubberman]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

[Nally Stand]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

[Tubberman]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

Why is Enda the most popular leader in the polls and Gerry languishing in 3rd place? Oh I know, it's because we're all sheep, partitionists etc.
The economy would be on much sounder footing with the likes of Gerry calling the "shots" along with amazeyball TDs like Aonghus O'Snodaigh and Martin Ferris.

[JohnDenver]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

Why is Enda the most popular leader in the polls and Gerry languishing in 3rd place? Oh I know, it's because we're all sheep, partitionists etc.
The economy would be on much sounder footing with the likes of Gerry calling the "shots" along with amazeyball TDs like Aonghus O'Snodaigh and Martin Ferris.

Finally, we seem to be getting somewhere 

[Rossfan]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

took an hour and 12 minutes to jump to Gerry's defence . Slipping up.

[lawnseed]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

took an hour and 12 minutes to jump to Gerry's defence . Slipping up.

Firstly ger doesnt represent ireland gimp does. Secondly this this a disgrace we are already a laughing stock without this emptyhead making it worse. 3rd the brits are splitting their sides laughing at thick paddy who couldnt spell the name of the most famous leader on the planet. Theres no excuse the mans a walking disaster.  Get back in that cupboard you fukn gimp

[Tubberman]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

took an hour and 12 minutes to jump to Gerry's defence . Slipping up.

Firstly ger doesnt represent ireland gimp does. Secondly this this a disgrace we are already a laughing stock without this emptyhead making it worse. 3rd the brits are splitting their sides laughing at thick paddy who couldnt spell the name of the most famous leader on the planet. Theres no excuse the mans a walking disaster.  Get back in that cupboard you fukn gimp

We're no longer a laughing stock:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/forbes-names-ireland-as-best-country-for-business-1.1617277
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ireland-begins-bailout-exit-today-616514.html

And I think if you were to measure international perceptions of Ireland, Gerry and his merry men would have done much more damage to our reputation than Enda and the current government could have possibly done.
And what is this cupboard you keep going on about?

[glens abu]

Any figures for party leaders from las test IT poll?

[Nally Stand]

You let him out of the cupboard for mandela's funeral and the gimp scribbles all over the mans book of condolence and disgraces the place as usual. Any wonder sarkey was slapping the head off the stupid hoor he should have kicked his hole aswell. But thats the voters job isnt it

Yes, he should show real leadership by tweeting about teddy bears.

Yes because clearly the longest serving party leader in Ireland and the man who brought the vast majority of republicans with him into the peace process has no leadership qualities. Unlike the man who just survived an attempt on his party leadership just before the role of Taoiseach was handed to him thanks to FF's collapse.

Why is Enda the most popular leader in the polls and Gerry languishing in 3rd place? Oh I know, it's because we're all sheep, partitionists etc.
The economy would be on much sounder footing with the likes of Gerry calling the "shots" along with amazeyball TDs like Aonghus O'Snodaigh and Martin Ferris.

Popularity as a leader isn't all of being a good leader. Not that it matters, because Adams seems to top the opinion polls on "most popular" party leader more often than not. Feel free to re-read my points re him bringing the republican movement with him almost in it's entirety to the peace process ("probably the most capable politician we have. Possibly one of the most capable in Europe" (Fr Alec Reid in his ast ever interview). The fact that he is the longest serving party leader in the country, and a poll topper isn't bad. At lease when compared to Enda "leadership challenge" Kenny (who's contribution to a question from Adams in the Dáil yesterday re. executive salaries was answered by Inda with "but were you or were you not in the IRA, Gerry?". Inspirational stuff as always there, Enda.

[Tubberman]

Any figures for party leaders from las test IT poll?

From rte:

Taoiseach Enda Kenny is the most popular party leader at 33%, up two, Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin is at 29%, also up two, Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams is at 27%, down two, while Labour leader Eamon Gilmore is at 19%, up four.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1211/492321-poll/

[glens abu]

Any figures for party leaders from las test IT poll?

From rte:

Taoiseach Enda Kenny is the most popular party leader at 33%, up two, Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin is at 29%, also up two, Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams is at 27%, down two, while Labour leader Eamon Gilmore is at 19%, up four.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1211/492321-poll/

Thanks