The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Seriously, you're going to whine about the "character assassination" of Romney after what Obama was put through?

If you believed the right, and this wasn't just the right wing media, this was the GOP politicians, all the way to the top of Congress (leaving aside the birther-in-chief), Obama was a Kenyan- born Muslim communist who wasn't legally entitled to be president and who hated white people and was bent on the destruction of Christian America.

Did Romney ever have a doppelgänger cast as the devil in a mainstream miniseries about Jesus?

I despise the negative and destructive execution of politics in the US, but this idea that it's all one-sided and that what happened to Romney was somehow out of the ordinary is laughable.

That he seems so mainstream and non-threatening in retrospect says little except that the current travesty in the Oval Office is so out of the historical norm and a representation of how fucked up and perverted the politics of the US right has become.

Nice attempt at the bait and switch

The "right leaning MSM" (eg WSJ) did nothing of the sort to Obama whereas the left leaning MSM evicerated Romney at every turn

Nice bait and switch by yourself... as if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and so on were NOT the right wing mainstream media, to say nothing of politicians all the way up to John Boehner who indulged the birther bullshit of their caucus and constituency.

Haha....you do know where the birther controversy came from?

See much of the Obama "story" (just like the Elizabeth Warren story) was a manufactured pile of shite.   

When it suited them after he wrote his first book, his biography stated that he was born in Kenya (inside the cover of his own book)

Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them. Tell us, do you think the average publisher will go back and recall and reprint a run of books by some new, unknown author to correct a fairly inconsequential error in the cover bio?

And it happened more than 15 years before he even ran for president. And it's not like the record hadn't been corrected years before he ran or Trump's "people" started finding "unbelievable things" in Hawaii in 2011.

Regardless though, you seem to be posting this to the effect that the right wing personal campaigns against Obama were justified. Is that the case?

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them.

Yeah sure  ;)

His term is over. Maybe it's time to come clean.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

whitey

Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Seriously, you're going to whine about the "character assassination" of Romney after what Obama was put through?

If you believed the right, and this wasn't just the right wing media, this was the GOP politicians, all the way to the top of Congress (leaving aside the birther-in-chief), Obama was a Kenyan- born Muslim communist who wasn't legally entitled to be president and who hated white people and was bent on the destruction of Christian America.

Did Romney ever have a doppelgänger cast as the devil in a mainstream miniseries about Jesus?

I despise the negative and destructive execution of politics in the US, but this idea that it's all one-sided and that what happened to Romney was somehow out of the ordinary is laughable.

That he seems so mainstream and non-threatening in retrospect says little except that the current travesty in the Oval Office is so out of the historical norm and a representation of how fucked up and perverted the politics of the US right has become.

Nice attempt at the bait and switch

The "right leaning MSM" (eg WSJ) did nothing of the sort to Obama whereas the left leaning MSM evicerated Romney at every turn

Nice bait and switch by yourself... as if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and so on were NOT the right wing mainstream media, to say nothing of politicians all the way up to John Boehner who indulged the birther bullshit of their caucus and constituency.

Haha....you do know where the birther controversy came from?

See much of the Obama "story" (just like the Elizabeth Warren story) was a manufactured pile of shite.   

When it suited them after he wrote his first book, his biography stated that he was born in Kenya (inside the cover of his own book)

Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them. Tell us, do you think the average publisher will go back and recall and reprint a run of books by some new, unknown author to correct a fairly inconsequential error in the cover bio?

And it happened more than 15 years before he even ran for president. And it's not like the record hadn't been corrected years before he ran or Trump's "people" started finding "unbelievable things" in Hawaii in 2011.

Regardless though, you seem to be posting this to the effect that the right wing personal campaigns against Obama were justified. Is that the case?

If your publisher stated that you were born in Timbuktu, would you wait 15 years to correct it?

Obviously he was born in Hawaii, and even if he wasnt, hed still be eligible to run because his mother was a citizen

If I was to hazard a guess, Id say in his application to either Columbia or Harvard, he misrepresented where he was from in order to gain an edge in the admission process.  Exactly like liar Lizzie

J70

Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Seriously, you're going to whine about the "character assassination" of Romney after what Obama was put through?

If you believed the right, and this wasn't just the right wing media, this was the GOP politicians, all the way to the top of Congress (leaving aside the birther-in-chief), Obama was a Kenyan- born Muslim communist who wasn't legally entitled to be president and who hated white people and was bent on the destruction of Christian America.

Did Romney ever have a doppelgänger cast as the devil in a mainstream miniseries about Jesus?

I despise the negative and destructive execution of politics in the US, but this idea that it's all one-sided and that what happened to Romney was somehow out of the ordinary is laughable.

That he seems so mainstream and non-threatening in retrospect says little except that the current travesty in the Oval Office is so out of the historical norm and a representation of how fucked up and perverted the politics of the US right has become.

Nice attempt at the bait and switch

The "right leaning MSM" (eg WSJ) did nothing of the sort to Obama whereas the left leaning MSM evicerated Romney at every turn

Nice bait and switch by yourself... as if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and so on were NOT the right wing mainstream media, to say nothing of politicians all the way up to John Boehner who indulged the birther bullshit of their caucus and constituency.

Haha....you do know where the birther controversy came from?

See much of the Obama "story" (just like the Elizabeth Warren story) was a manufactured pile of shite.   

When it suited them after he wrote his first book, his biography stated that he was born in Kenya (inside the cover of his own book)

Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them. Tell us, do you think the average publisher will go back and recall and reprint a run of books by some new, unknown author to correct a fairly inconsequential error in the cover bio?

And it happened more than 15 years before he even ran for president. And it's not like the record hadn't been corrected years before he ran or Trump's "people" started finding "unbelievable things" in Hawaii in 2011.

Regardless though, you seem to be posting this to the effect that the right wing personal campaigns against Obama were justified. Is that the case?

If your publisher stated that you were born in Timbuktu, would you wait 15 years to correct it?

Obviously he was born in Hawaii, and even if he wasnt, hed still be eligible to run because his mother was a citizen

If I was to hazard a guess, Id say in his application to either Columbia or Harvard, he misrepresented where he was from in order to gain an edge in the admission process.  Exactly like liar Lizzie

Correct it where?

On the new editions? On all other references to his birthplace?

A NY Times article predating the book said he was born in Hawaii.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

And what advantage would he have gained in his application to Harvard or Columbia by stating he was Kenyan-born? A NY Times profile while he was still at Harvard would have been problematic if such an advantage existed and had been falsely availed of, would it not?

whitey

Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Seriously, you're going to whine about the "character assassination" of Romney after what Obama was put through?

If you believed the right, and this wasn't just the right wing media, this was the GOP politicians, all the way to the top of Congress (leaving aside the birther-in-chief), Obama was a Kenyan- born Muslim communist who wasn't legally entitled to be president and who hated white people and was bent on the destruction of Christian America.

Did Romney ever have a doppelgänger cast as the devil in a mainstream miniseries about Jesus?

I despise the negative and destructive execution of politics in the US, but this idea that it's all one-sided and that what happened to Romney was somehow out of the ordinary is laughable.

That he seems so mainstream and non-threatening in retrospect says little except that the current travesty in the Oval Office is so out of the historical norm and a representation of how fucked up and perverted the politics of the US right has become.

Nice attempt at the bait and switch

The "right leaning MSM" (eg WSJ) did nothing of the sort to Obama whereas the left leaning MSM evicerated Romney at every turn

Nice bait and switch by yourself... as if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and so on were NOT the right wing mainstream media, to say nothing of politicians all the way up to John Boehner who indulged the birther bullshit of their caucus and constituency.

Haha....you do know where the birther controversy came from?

See much of the Obama "story" (just like the Elizabeth Warren story) was a manufactured pile of shite.   

When it suited them after he wrote his first book, his biography stated that he was born in Kenya (inside the cover of his own book)

Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them. Tell us, do you think the average publisher will go back and recall and reprint a run of books by some new, unknown author to correct a fairly inconsequential error in the cover bio?

And it happened more than 15 years before he even ran for president. And it's not like the record hadn't been corrected years before he ran or Trump's "people" started finding "unbelievable things" in Hawaii in 2011.

Regardless though, you seem to be posting this to the effect that the right wing personal campaigns against Obama were justified. Is that the case?

If your publisher stated that you were born in Timbuktu, would you wait 15 years to correct it?

Obviously he was born in Hawaii, and even if he wasnt, hed still be eligible to run because his mother was a citizen

If I was to hazard a guess, Id say in his application to either Columbia or Harvard, he misrepresented where he was from in order to gain an edge in the admission process.  Exactly like liar Lizzie

Correct it where?

On the new editions? On all other references to his birthplace?

A NY Times article predating the book said he was born in Hawaii.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

And what advantage would he have gained in his application to Harvard or Columbia by stating he was Kenyan-born? A NY Times profile while he was still at Harvard would have been problematic if such an advantage existed and had been falsely availed of, would it not?

His records are sealed, so we will never know.

Why seal them if theres nothing to hide

J70

Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 04:46:14 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:19:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on December 05, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
Seriously, you're going to whine about the "character assassination" of Romney after what Obama was put through?

If you believed the right, and this wasn't just the right wing media, this was the GOP politicians, all the way to the top of Congress (leaving aside the birther-in-chief), Obama was a Kenyan- born Muslim communist who wasn't legally entitled to be president and who hated white people and was bent on the destruction of Christian America.

Did Romney ever have a doppelgänger cast as the devil in a mainstream miniseries about Jesus?

I despise the negative and destructive execution of politics in the US, but this idea that it's all one-sided and that what happened to Romney was somehow out of the ordinary is laughable.

That he seems so mainstream and non-threatening in retrospect says little except that the current travesty in the Oval Office is so out of the historical norm and a representation of how fucked up and perverted the politics of the US right has become.

Nice attempt at the bait and switch

The "right leaning MSM" (eg WSJ) did nothing of the sort to Obama whereas the left leaning MSM evicerated Romney at every turn

Nice bait and switch by yourself... as if Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and so on were NOT the right wing mainstream media, to say nothing of politicians all the way up to John Boehner who indulged the birther bullshit of their caucus and constituency.

Haha....you do know where the birther controversy came from?

See much of the Obama "story" (just like the Elizabeth Warren story) was a manufactured pile of shite.   

When it suited them after he wrote his first book, his biography stated that he was born in Kenya (inside the cover of his own book)

Which the publisher stated was an error on their part and not info that Obama gave them. Tell us, do you think the average publisher will go back and recall and reprint a run of books by some new, unknown author to correct a fairly inconsequential error in the cover bio?

And it happened more than 15 years before he even ran for president. And it's not like the record hadn't been corrected years before he ran or Trump's "people" started finding "unbelievable things" in Hawaii in 2011.

Regardless though, you seem to be posting this to the effect that the right wing personal campaigns against Obama were justified. Is that the case?

If your publisher stated that you were born in Timbuktu, would you wait 15 years to correct it?

Obviously he was born in Hawaii, and even if he wasnt, hed still be eligible to run because his mother was a citizen

If I was to hazard a guess, Id say in his application to either Columbia or Harvard, he misrepresented where he was from in order to gain an edge in the admission process.  Exactly like liar Lizzie

Correct it where?

On the new editions? On all other references to his birthplace?

A NY Times article predating the book said he was born in Hawaii.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

And what advantage would he have gained in his application to Harvard or Columbia by stating he was Kenyan-born? A NY Times profile while he was still at Harvard would have been problematic if such an advantage existed and had been falsely availed of, would it not?

His records are sealed, so we will never know.

Why seal them if theres nothing to hide

Maybe he got an F he's embarrassed about.

I've a couple of early-years college results I'd like sealed myself.

Besides, is it typical for politicians to release their grades anyway, assuming by "sealed" you mean "unreleased"?

foxcommander

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2017, 01:03:08 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-is-said-to-have-received-subpoena-on-client-trump

QuoteSpecial prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump's business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.

Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany's largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced.

"Deutsche Bank always cooperates with investigating authorities in all countries," the lender said in a statement to Bloomberg Tuesday, declining to provide additional information.

You liberals posting your fake news  ::)



QuoteTrump attorney @JaySekulow tells CNN: "We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the President are false.  No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources."

stew

Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:02:20 AM
Quote from: heganboy on December 05, 2017, 02:46:10 AM
Close run call between those let down by hope and change, and those waiting on making America great again.

Donors are doing pretty well now all the same. All eyes on Mueller, no one watching out for the poor, the environment, the refugee or the natural parks

FBI Just demoted a senior agent in the investigation for having sent anti Trump and pro Hillary texts during the campaign

Hes also the senior official in charge of the Hillary email investigation

I fvcking hate all these cvnts

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html

The great Ben Stein weighs in on Obamacare.

"Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

Now add this, "Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens."

Ben Stein.

Thank you Mr Obama!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

stew

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
Swallowing that Fox and Friends propaganda hook, line and sinker.

You can't even form an original thought in that head of yours  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pot, Kettle, black!

You have some balls accusing anyone of listening to propaganda, or does liberal propaganda not count?

Never mind, dont bother responding, I have no time for you nor your posts!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

foxcommander

Quote from: stew on December 05, 2017, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on December 05, 2017, 03:02:20 AM
Quote from: heganboy on December 05, 2017, 02:46:10 AM
Close run call between those let down by hope and change, and those waiting on making America great again.

Donors are doing pretty well now all the same. All eyes on Mueller, no one watching out for the poor, the environment, the refugee or the natural parks

FBI Just demoted a senior agent in the investigation for having sent anti Trump and pro Hillary texts during the campaign

Hes also the senior official in charge of the Hillary email investigation

I fvcking hate all these cvnts

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/fbi-agent-removed-trump-investigation/index.html

The great Ben Stein weighs in on Obamacare.

"Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

Now add this, "Many of those who refuse, or are unable, to prove they are citizens will receive free insurance paid for by those who are forced to buy insurance because they are citizens."

Ben Stein.

Thank you Mr Obama!

Liberals are just that mental that they see nothing wrong with it.
They want people with no documentation to have a vote for heavens sake!

It's a numbers game. The end result will be horrific.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: stew on December 05, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
Swallowing that Fox and Friends propaganda hook, line and sinker.

You can't even form an original thought in that head of yours  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pot, Kettle, black!

You have some balls accusing anyone of listening to propaganda, or does liberal propaganda not count?

Never mind, dont bother responding, I have no time for you nor your posts!


Play nice Stew - you know what happened to you a few weeks ago  :-X :-X :-X :-X

foxcommander

Quote from: stew on December 05, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
Swallowing that Fox and Friends propaganda hook, line and sinker.

You can't even form an original thought in that head of yours  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pot, Kettle, black!

You have some balls accusing anyone of listening to propaganda, or does liberal propaganda not count?

Never mind, dont bother responding, I have no time for you nor your posts!


Liberal propaganda good
Conservative propaganda bad

Hypocrisy doesn't seem to register with that lot.

Remember -

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Therealdonald

Fox is hilarious. Literally an Irishman talking about undocumented really grinds my gears. The Irish are all over the world undocumented, especially in the US. Pre 9/11 they were able to get citizenship easy but those that didn't are now stuck in a limbo.

stew

Quote from: Therealdonald on December 05, 2017, 11:08:55 PM
Fox is hilarious. Literally an Irishman talking about undocumented really grinds my gears. The Irish are all over the world undocumented, especially in the US. Pre 9/11 they were able to get citizenship easy but those that didn't are now stuck in a limbo.

Who gives a f**k that Irish people are undocumented all over the world? They should not be undocumented all over the world newbie! And being Irish has got nothing to do with someones opinion on undocumented people being somewhere they are not entitled to be either!

Keep your gears grinding kid, and as for people being 'stuck in limbo' f**k them, they can always come home or better still apply to become documented, they do it to themselves, no one forces them in limbo!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.