Clerical abuse!

[imtommygunn]

It's not interesting. Nor is using child abuse to try to point score and "win" arguments. It's deplorable.

[T Fearon]

It is interesting and appalling to see the lengths to which anti Catholics will stoop to peddle their illogical hatred and intolerance,and singling out a young priest 40 years ago,while the likes of Gerry Adams and Margaret Byrne get a free pass.

[Applesisapples]

I am not anti gay or pro paedophile enabling as I suspect you well know.There is no room for homosexual priests,how would any homosexual even be attracted to the priesthood.

You are certainly homophobic based on this post alone.

[johnneycool]

I am not anti gay or pro paedophile enabling as I suspect you well know.There is no room for homosexual priests,how would any homosexual even be attracted to the priesthood.

You are certainly homophobic based on this post alone.

Why wouldn't a homosexual be attracted to the priesthood in the same way a heterosexual person would be?

Can't a homosexual get a calling?

[Applesisapples]

I am not anti gay or pro paedophile enabling as I suspect you well know.There is no room for homosexual priests,how would any homosexual even be attracted to the priesthood.

You are certainly homophobic based on this post alone.

Why wouldn't a homosexual be attracted to the priesthood in the same way a heterosexual person would be?

Can't a homosexual get a calling?

Not in the world of a born again Catholic, you need to be pure of thought, word and deed...oh wait paedophiles, cover-ups....

[orangeman]

Margaret Byrne resigns saying that she made a serious mistake.

[muppet]

Margaret Byrne resigns saying that she made a serious mistake.

At least she realised her mistake, admitted it and did the right thing by resigning.

Cardinal Cahal Daly did the right thing too.

His replacement......... not so much.

[T Fearon]

Yawn.For your information

1.Margaret Byrne (was forced by her billionaire boss to) resign because she was head of the organisation when she failed to act decisively on hearing paedophile allegations against an employee.

2.Sean Brady was a junior priest 40 years ago when he recorded as then unsubstantiated allegations against a priest made by young boys.

3.Sean Brady reported his findings to his superiors.

4.Margaret Byrne did not report allegations to other members of the organisation she headed up.

5.Margaret Byrne as CEO had the power and authority to act decisively

6.Sean Brady as a junior priest had no power to act decisively.

[imtommygunn]

You are right about one thing. They are not remotely comparable.

[muppet]

Margaret Byrne resigned because Johnson was allowed to play football despite her being aware of his dangerous contact with a minor.

Sean Brady didn't resign, even though Brendan Smyth was allowed to persist in raping and abusing up to 2 hundred more children despite Brady being aware of his dangerous contact with at least 5 minors. Brady didn't even tell the parents of the other 4, and silenced the 2 victims he spoke to.

Byrne didn't spend 11 years fighting a victim in the courts to protect herself.

And to my knowledge Byrne didn't say anything like this:

"If I found myself in a situation where I was aware that my failure to act had allowed or meant that other children were abused, well then, I think I would resign."

[T Fearon]

But Brady did act! He told his superiors,they are the ones to blame.Margaret Byrne told no one in her organisation,that's the key difference,and she was CEO.

[imtommygunn]

The police already knew.

You know the law. The ones who protect people and punish criminals. Yes those ones.

You are right - she handled it very badly but it is in no way comparable.

[T Fearon]

I know.CEO of multi million pound operation,and female to boot,fails to suspend paedophile while junior priest tells all he heard to his superiors immediately.

[smelmoth]

1.Margaret Byrne (was forced by her billionaire boss to) resign because she was head of the organisation when she failed to act decisively on hearing paedophile allegations against an employee.

This statement is correct but misses the point. The particular accusation that she was aware off was already known to and being investigated by the only proper authority. Her inaction was her failure to sack the player. No abuse resulted from her inaction.

2.Sean Brady was a junior priest 40 years ago when he recorded as then unsubstantiated allegations against a priest made by young boys.

This statement might be true but it deliberately misses all the relevant points. Junior in rank but specialist in canon law. Brady believed the accusations. The accusations were deadly serious. The potential consequences of a failure to act were predictable and horrific. The only proper action was to report the accusations to the police. The failure to so is 100% inexcusable. Where was the man's intelligence? Where was his morality? The accusations against Smyth went on. What did Brady do?

3.Sean Brady reported his findings to his superiors.

Factually correct but not excusable. Imagine if Byrne was aware of the specific accusations before the police and told the club chairman but not the police do you honestly think a single person would have said that that was ok?

4.Margaret Byrne did not report allegations to other members of the organisation she headed up.

And she should have. Johnson would have been sacked earlier but it did not impact on legal due process

5.Margaret Byrne as CEO had the power and authority to act decisively

Yes - she could have ended his pay and protected brand Sunderland.
Brady could have helped stop kids being anally raped and having progressively larger candles inserted into them on a daily basis until they were ready to be anally raped
You see the difference.

6.Sean Brady as a junior priest had no power to act decisively.

This is a lie. He could have rang the Gardai. Stop lying.
You were and remain a horrific human being

[imtommygunn]

I know.CEO of multi million pound operation,and female to boot,fails to suspend paedophile while junior priest tells all he heard to his superiors immediately.

Twist it whatever way you want. Neither are excusable despite your continued attempts to excuse one.